Who wins the USO Final if Djokovic and Med’s draws were reversed?

Who wins?


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Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
I.e. Djokovic gets Botic-FAA as QF/SF and Medvedev gets Berrettini-Zverev as his QF/SF.

do you think the result changes at all? Discuss.
 

Third Serve

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm not sure. Maybe I'd for sure lean Djokovic if Med closed out the match in four or five sets... but straights?
 

ForehandCross

G.O.A.T.
Med eats Z alive most of the time. Since 2019 he is 4-1 against Z.

Berretini and Brooksby would be beaten quite easily.

Z would require 4 sets but would be beaten.

A fresher Djokovic would still have a lot of pressure and a tested focused Med still have the strategy.

Med would win. Not as easy maybe but definitely would.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
Hypothetical matches are no longer enough for TTW. We now need hypothetical draw swaps.

Soon we will have hypothetical natural disasters.

And hypothetical parent changes - Would Federer have 40 slams if his dad was Srdjan?

Would Djokovic be running around Vamosing if Tio Toni was his Tio?

Would Berdych have 75 slams if Judy Murray was his Mum (Yes btw).
 

Milehigh5280

Professional
It's definitely a longer match, 4 or 5 sets, but I think Daniil still wins. He was clearly the best player this tournament
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
Definitely Djokovic. Djokovic had accumulated fatigue, it was clear to see. Zverev match took too much out of him. Put a fresh Djokovic against a tired Medvedev in best of 5, Djokovic wins every time. I assumed the tiredness wouldn't play a factor, but in the end it was the thing which caused Djokovic to lose.
 

topher

Hall of Fame
I don’t see that it matters, everyone gets an easy draw occasionally and Medvedev earned that opportunity by being a 2 seed for the past what, 3-4 slams?
 

T007

Hall of Fame
I.e. Djokovic gets Botic-FAA as QF/SF and Medvedev gets Berrettini-Zverev as his QF/SF.

do you think the result changes at all? Discuss.
Lol there are no ifs and buts. If medvedev got Djokers draw in wimbledon...he could have won it. Djoker had a easier ride in wimbledon here he has to 2 face top 10s from QF.

Djoker was playing much worse since the start definitely he could have had the physical advantage coming in to Finals if draws were swapped
 

T007

Hall of Fame
Definitely Djokovic. Djokovic had accumulated fatigue, it was clear to see. Zverev match took too much out of him. Put a fresh Djokovic against a tired Medvedev in best of 5, Djokovic wins every time. I assumed the tiredness wouldn't play a factor, but in the end it was the thing which caused Djokovic to lose.
If you can't recover from 1 3.5 hours 5 setter he doesn't deserve to win.
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
Medvedev beat the hell out of Novak today and would have done so regardless of the draw. Novak was dropping sets to bums all tournament.
 

Bubcay

Legend
Hypothetical matches are no longer enough for TTW. We now need hypothetical draw swaps.

Soon we will have hypothetical natural disasters.

And hypothetical parent changes - Would Federer have 40 slams if his dad was Srdjan?

Would Djokovic be running around Vamosing if Tio Toni was his Tio?

Would Berdych have 75 slams if Judy Murray was his Mum (Yes btw).
Thanks for making me laugh. I will now have nightmares imagining some of those scenarios. I think the hardest one to imagine is Djokovic shouting 'Vamos'
 

JustMy2Cents

Hall of Fame
Thanks for making me laugh. I will now have nightmares imagining some of those scenarios. I think the hardest one to imagine is Djokovic shouting 'Vamos'
He did wear shoes with Vamos Nole written in pen imitating Rafa's Vamos Rafa shoes
 

Tennisgods

Hall of Fame
Djokovic most likely, but this feels like the right draw. If you’re so dominant that you’re going for the Grand Slam, then you don’t need the help of a kind draw.
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
I think you have to be a special kind of deluded to believe the result is going to change. The gulf between them was HUGE. Medvedev already showed end of last year, beginning of this, that nobody else is in his league on a hard court.

Yes, Berrettini and Zverev have both taken strides since then, but Medvedev is 25, not 34, he can play long matches and still be good to go, and neither of those guys has the game to beat him, and even if they did, they're still more likely to wet the bed when the going gets tough, just as they both have done so many times, just as they both did this past week (Well, Zverev did. Berrettini sort of just looked like he gave up) you can no more hit through Medvedev than you can Djokovic.

Nothing would have changed.

Actually, maybe Dan Evans would have gotten Novak like he did in Monte Carlo:-D

The weight of history got to Djokovic all fortnight. The opposition was not going to change that. He hardly had some toweringly difficult first week, and he still made a meal of it.

There is minimal to suggest that his performance last night was due to physical exhaustion, far more that he was mentally tentative, and that his opponent was just too good/a match up that he hates. There is way more to indicate, based on their prior matchups, that what happened in Australia between them this year was the anomaly, and that the truth of this match up is always much more of a struggle.

Also, Botic gave Medvedev more trouble for those last two sets than Berrettini ever did to Novak.
 
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