And stand right up to the net and blast a bucket in the box. Take a step back and do it again. Till you get to the baseline.Follow this example:
Follow this example:
What makes the serve so hard for you to learn?
Is it because we don't know how to throw? Too complicated to swing at something way above the head?
Is the serve a very advanced skill?
What mental image do you use to help you?
(I'm asking for a friend)
Should try to serve with woodVery easy actually! We’re doing everything we can to make it hard.
She's foot faulting. What kind of example are you trying to set?
I'm gonna look at Agut's serve per your recommendation.- Lots of different bio-mechanics involved [toss, core rotation, racquet drop, shoulder tilt, pronation, knee bend, leg drive, etc]
- Extra pressure because it seems easy [you get to toss to yourself]
- Coaches who try to teach everything at once
Plenty of people that can throw well can't serve worth a darn. Good throwing mechanics certainly raises the odds of success, though.
Swinging at something above the head is I suppose more complicated than if the object was lower but I don't think that's a major factor unless the person has serious problems tracking a ball.
An excellent serve is an advanced skill but couldn't you say the same thing about every stroke? Plenty of people have less-than-ideal technique and still manage to be effective.
I've been studying Bautista Agut lately. Seems like an uncomplicated example to follow.
I'm answering for a friend.
Should try to serve with wood
What makes the serve so hard for you to learn?
Is it because we don't know how to throw? Too complicated to swing at something way above the head?
Is the serve a very advanced skill?
What mental image do you use to help you?
(I'm asking for a friend)
The serve is the easiest and hardest shot because we control every aspect. Also why we get more nervous on them, non reactive.
Getting it in the box is tough at first, having to find that angle with optimal power. Its a balancing act.
Knowing how to throw really helps, the motions are the same. Extension for distance, snap for drop, just like throwing a baseball.
I think throwing a football is closest to the service motion.
About this, can you really break it down to individual parts and master them one at a time?
How about do the whole thing slowly and at 50% form (eg, not full racket drop, not highest toss)
More like skirt-faulting! She has wonderful form and her grip is right!
I didn't know Yonex made wood racquets.
Just the opposite for me. Toss the ball up THEN swing the racket at it. That tiny bit of delay works great. I’m not that crazy to try to throw a ball aiming at a swinging racket!instead of throwing the ball up and trying to hit the ball with the racquet, think about it as swinging the racquet and just tossing the ball into it's path.
I think you'll find that if you shadow swing without a ball in your hand you will probably have a perfect service motion.
I'm gonna look at Agut's serve per your recommendation.
Oh yeah, the way he chokes up that badminton stick with the thumb along the handle line. Perfect!More like skirt-faulting! She has wonderful form and her grip is right!
About this, can you really break it down to individual parts and master them one at a time?
How about do the whole thing slowly and at 50% form (eg, not full racket drop, not highest toss)
Its very challenging because you must know where to toss, and consistently toss there with your off hand that you likely can't do much of anything great with without tons of practice. Even if your off hand is working fine, you likely don't know precisely where to toss.What makes the serve so hard for you to learn?
Is it because we don't know how to throw? Too complicated to swing at something way above the head?
Is the serve a very advanced skill?
What mental image do you use to help you?
(I'm asking for a friend)
Oh yeah, the way he chokes up that badminton stick with the thumb along the handle line. Perfect!
I know it's a chick. I just missed the "s". As for grip, I merely made joke about how artist drew it.
I know it's a chick. I just missed the "s". As for grip, I merely made joke about how artist drew it.
Am I the only one that thinks the service motion is exactly like a vertical version of the Braves chop? I’m being serious. Just make sure you “drop” on the take back. And be sure your chop isn’t from the arm, but from the shoulder.Here is the best example of the service motion I could find
But they’re all tricepsing it!!Am I the only one that thinks the service motion is exactly like a vertical version of the Braves chop? I’m being serious. Just make sure you “drop” on the take back. And be sure your chop isn’t from the arm, but from the shoulder.
Then it’s just swing path.
I think so but you need to chop in front of you and your body rotates some degrees and simultaneously falls on the side.Am I the only one that thinks the service motion is exactly like a vertical version of the Braves chop? I’m being serious. Just make sure you “drop” on the take back. And be sure your chop isn’t from the arm, but from the shoulder.
Then it’s just swing path.
I've played an hour or so with wood racquets. No real downside to them in terms of power. I didn't even have to change my technique. It's like using a PS90 but flexier.
Hated the feel on the wood racquets though (strung with natural gut). I found out that you can have too much flex in a frame.
I dunno the exact model, my friend who gave them to me to try has a truckload of wood frames that he bought for his inner collector.Which frame? Some of them are quite stiff!
It's hard to learn because it is difficult. It is the most complex motion in sports. You need to practice, practice, practice and make sure it is correct practice.What makes the serve so hard for you to learn?
Can someone tell me...
Considering the horizontal blue line as where Fed's racket tip touches as he contacts the ball, after contacting the ball, does Fed's racket tip immediately drops below or rises above the blue line?
If he goes for a flat serve, it goes down and forward. If he goes for topspin, then up. If he goes for the kick, then up and to the right. If for the slice, then horisontally to the right. On this pic, it looks like either a kick serve or a slice, but i might be wrong, i don't think it matters though, to discussAfter the 4th picture (right most), does Federer's racket go down or go up a little more? Or, even horizontally for a few inches?
I find I can reproduce that relaxed arm feeling by feeling the weight of the racket, and the easiest way to do that (for me) is actually to choke down and with pinky off the grip.For me, one thing that made the serve very hard was that I never understood until recently how much you have to relax and let go to get racket speed. Once when I returned from a lengthy trip to India (a few years ago), no exercise for weeks, not even stretching, and feeling weak after being sick with stomach flu, I decided to restart tennis after a week of procrastinating. My goal was just to get back the feel of the racket. I started hitting against the wall with no power, totally relaxed. I then decided to serve a few in the same way. Guess what, the ball was hitting the back fence comfortably in once bounce, when I expected it to take at least two bounces. I wouldn't have minded serving like that in a match! Since then, I have learned to reproduce that feeling of total relaxation (sometimes it takes a while), for the wrist in particular, which should literally be limp like a noodle and swing through the full range of motion.
One side effect of being so relaxed is that the arm/shoulder goes through a greater range of motion and can experience pain from being pinched (especially the shoulder). This is when you'll have to follow the principles of proper shoulder alignment that people talk about here, and of course you will forget (for a while at least) about being relaxed! Nothing comes for free...
Why is Federer a lefty in this picture?If he goes for a flat serve, it goes down and forward. If he goes for topspin, then up. If he goes for the kick, then up and to the right. If for the slice, then horisontally to the right. On this pic, it looks like either a kick serve or a slice, but i might be wrong, i don't think it matters though, to discuss
He's the goat. He can do anything.Why is Federer a lefty in this picture?
Why is Federer a lefty in this picture?