Why no 26 inch racquets?

Venetian

Professional
Didn't want to hijack the 29 inch racquet thread too much, so I thought I'd move my inquiry to a new thread.

If anyone knows or can explain the physics of racquet length, why is it that 27 is the standard length for racquets? Some players go up to 27.5 and 28 inches, and a few I've heard of use 29 inch frames. So I was wondering why no one goes below 27 inches? Why are there no 26 or 26.5 inch frames? What would be the advantages/disadvantages to using such a racquet?
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
Didn't want to hijack the 29 inch racquet thread too much, so I thought I'd move my inquiry to a new thread.

If anyone knows or can explain the physics of racquet length, why is it that 27 is the standard length for racquets? Some players go up to 27.5 and 28 inches, and a few I've heard of use 29 inch frames. So I was wondering why no one goes below 27 inches? Why are there no 26 or 26.5 inch frames? What would be the advantages/disadvantages to using such a racquet?

Through years and years of racquet manufacturing... it's been determined that 27" is the optimum length for most players.

If you really want to know why... take a racquetball racquet onto a tennis court and smack away. Play a set or two. The reason for a 27" length will become abundantly clear.
 

Venetian

Professional
Through years and years of racquet manufacturing... it's been determined that 27" is the optimum length for most players.

If you really want to know why... take a racquetball racquet onto a tennis court and smack away. Play a set or two. The reason for a 27" length will become abundantly clear.

I'm afraid I don't have a racquetball racquet I could take to the courts, or I'd give it a go... could you elaborate?
 
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Fed Kennedy

Legend
I have a head graphite edge that is shorter than 27 and it has great control and manueverablity even though it weighs 13 oz.
Like anything, it's a trade off, go too short and you'll lose a lot of leverage (power).
 

corners

Legend
Didn't want to hijack the 29 inch racquet thread too much, so I thought I'd move my inquiry to a new thread.

If anyone knows or can explain the physics of racquet length, why is it that 27 is the standard length for racquets? Some players go up to 27.5 and 28 inches, and a few I've heard of use 29 inch frames. So I was wondering why no one goes below 27 inches? Why are there no 26 or 26.5 inch frames? What would be the advantages/disadvantages to using such a racquet?

Shorter racquets have their advantages: Greater hittingweight and therefore greater inherent power.

Hittingweight is the proportion of a racquet's static weight that is represented at a particular impact location. At the balance point the hittingweight equals the static weight. But the further you go towards the tip, that proportion, and thus the hittingweight, declines. And with it goes the power, as hittingweight is almost directly proportional to inherent power.

So if you have a 27" racquet and a 26" racquet, both with identical specs, the 26" racquet will have higher hittingweight and more power at an identical impact location (like the center of the stringbed). Observe :) :

27" racquet (340g/32cm/330 SW)

hittingweight in center of stringbed: ~ 172 grams

26" racquet (340g/32cm/330 SW)

hittingweight in center of stringbed: ~ 192 grams

This difference is really quite large; it's about the same as adding 11 grams of lead to 12 o'clock on the 27" racquet (equivalent to 376 SW). You can imagine the power, stability and plowthrough you'd have with so much lead.


However, shorter racquets are shorter and so therefore have less reach. If you think having an inch-shorter arm is a big disadvantage then short racquets aren't so hot.

Also, if we look back at the two racquets above, we see that the impact location (in the center of the stringbed) is one inch further from the hand on the 27" racquet. Because the racquet is swung in an arc on most strokes, the racquet is moving faster the further away from the hand. This means that the center of the stringbed is moving faster on the 27" racquet than on the 26" racquet - about 1.7 mph faster on a college-level (65 mph swingspeed) forehand.

Obviously a faster moving racquet has more energy and hits the ball harder. But, it turns out that this faster movement is almost equally cancelled out by the lower hittingweight of the 27" inch racquet, resulting in nearly identical speed of shot between the two racquets. However, because the 26" racquet is moving slower at the impact location, it will generate less spin then the 27" racquet - about 10% less.

So on groundstrokes and serves the 27" and 26" racquets will generate the same speed of shot, but the 27" racquet will generate slightly more spin. However, recall that the 26" racquet has much higher effective hittingweight. This will translate as more plowthrough and stability, and more comfort. The 26" racquet will hit a very similar ball as the 27" one, but will really
brutalize it.

This will be especially nice at the net, where you're not swinging fast and don't really need spin that much. At slower swingspeeds the contribution of hittingweight on shot speed is much higher, so your volleys will be more powerful (maybe 2-3 mph faster) with the 26" racquet. Also, because the impact point is closer to your hand, you may have better control and accuracy, but less reach.


Finally, there are 26.5" and 26" frames. The poster Travlerajm has been shortening frames for several years. Shortening a frame 1/2" lowers the swingweight by about 24 units. So it's possible to add a huge amount of lead tape to the head after cutting, which increases the frame's stability tremendously. Trav likes to remove a half-inch and then lead it up to around 365 SW. In terms of hittingweight, this is equivalent to a 27" frame with swingweight of 390. Very sturdy frames. I recommend searching for his threads about shortening frames; that's where I learned most of the stuff I'm telling you now.

However, it's not necessary to go to super-high swingweights - I play with a 26.5" frame that's leaded up only to return the specs to match the frame at its original length. So comparing my frame to the stock frame is very much like comparing the 27" and 26" frames in the example above, but not as extreme because I've only removed half, rather than a full, inch.

Maybe I lose a little bit of pop and spin on serve, but I prefer the shorter racquet for all other strokes and find it especially awesome at net: more maneuverable, more stable, more powerful than at standard length.
 
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Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
As I mentioned in the 29" thread, I recall that Nastase used to cut his Dunlop Fort's down to 26" to increase maneuverability and racquet control. I tried it myself as a junior and I liked it. I was a hitter (as opposed to a pusher), and the shorter frame helped improve my consistency. Now-a-days, with the big looping topspin groundies, a shorter frame would only serve to neutralize the power and spin generated by larger headed racquets, IMO. Since my game has evolved with technology, it wouldn't make sense now. Again, JMHO!
 
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TMR

Rookie
I'm afraid I don't have a racquetball racquet I could take to the courts, or I'd give it a go... could you elaborate?

If you want to try out a racquetball racquet as a tennis racquet, I have one for cheap:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=330036
To push the short length/heavy mass idea to the extreme, I think Roddick once played with a frying pan as a demonstration. That idea was not original, however. Perhaps Bobby Riggs did it first?
 

jb193

Rookie
I agree with the premise of this thread. I think some 26.5 inch or 26.25 inch racquet ought to be available. I bought a used Wilson 6.1 classic one time and it was 26.5 inches. I could use my wrist in my serve like I never had and my contact point on my forehand was perfect... The weight of the 6.1 negated any loss of power from it being shorter by half an inch, but that half inch was huge in the feel of the racquet... I just wanted to share that experience....

There are plenty of 26" rackets. They are called "Junior" rackets.

I'm no expert on junior racquets, but aren't they all significantly lighter?
 

corners

Legend
In the post above I talked about shortened racquets that have then had lead tape added to them to return to normal specs. This produces a racquet with

a) more inherent power and stability
b) slightly less reach
c) slightly less spin (~10%)
d) maybe more control, as the racquet is shorter and easier to handle


You can also simply cut off half an inch and play, without added lead - as it sounds jb193 did with his PS Classic. By removing half an inch you reduce the swingweight by about 24 units. Hittingweight, and thus inherent power & stability remains the same as stock. But now, because the swingweight is substantially less you can swing much faster. Swinging faster provides more spin. So cutting half an inch off without replacing the weight provides:

a) roughly the same inherent power and stability
b) slightly less reach
c) slightly more spin (~10%)
d) maybe more control, as the racquet is shorter and easier to handle
e) substantially more maneuverable due to the reduced swingweight
f) substantially easier to swing and "whip" through the hitting zone, maybe allowing the player to employ whippy technique for more spin that the stock racquet would not allow.

For example, say you really like the way the KPS 88 plays, but find that the high swingweight (350) doesn't allow you to hit your windshield wiper forehand comfortably (you might feel inclined to block the ball instead on fast shots). If you cut 1/2" off, you end up with the same racquet but with a swingweight of 325, which might be in your comfort zone. The racquet has the same inherent power and stability as before, but now you can swing it faster and generate more spin, especially on short balls or wide balls where you want to whip up on the ball.

BTW, this is almost identical to simply moving your hand 1/2" up the handle for all your strokes.
 
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There's no demand for a shorter adult racket, really. If the pros wanted a shorter racket, with many millions of dollars on the line, you can bet manufacturers would produce such a racket.

But the vast majority of the market for tennis rackets is from absolute beginners, which probably accounts for 3/4 of all racket sales, if not more. And they don't have enough knowledge of the game to ask for a different spec.

If they did, I doubt they'd request a shorter racket: it would make it that much more difficult to generate power, reach balls on the run, and so on.

Basically, no one cares enough: the pros, beginners, nor the manufacturers.

I agree with the premise of this thread. I think some 26.5 inch or 26.25 inch racquet ought to be available. I bought a used Wilson 6.1 classic one time and it was 26.5 inches. I could use my wrist in my serve like I never had and my contact point on my forehand was perfect... The weight of the 6.1 negated any loss of power from it being shorter by half an inch, but that half inch was huge in the feel of the racquet... I just wanted to share that experience....



I'm no expert on junior racquets, but aren't they all significantly lighter?
 

lazya4

New User
bancroft used to make a 26" and a 28" wooden racket. after ralph v. sawyer left spalding and went to bancroft he started making the "players special" rackets. for a short time you could get the players special in a 26" length and a 28" length. the 26" was intended for doubles players. if i remember correctly they were called the "26" and the "28". i have only seen one of each on the bay. i don't think they were made for very long.
 
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