Will Djokovic catch Nadal in the Slam Race? Or will Nadal catch Federer?
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Mike Sams
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Good call. He may not be able to replicate that form with regularity.
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well to clarify, if nole is back... he will catch current nadal17, but nadal will become nadal21 
Sport
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In any case, I still see more likely Nadal catching Federer than Djokovic catching Nadal.
Here's why: Federer is 5 years older than Nadal, and so I wouldn't be surprised if he finish winning Grand Slams earlier than Nadal. Also, Djokovic is only one year younger than Nadal, and the difference in GS is bigger between him and Nadal (4 GS) than between Nadal and Federer (3 GS).
Here's why: Federer is 5 years older than Nadal, and so I wouldn't be surprised if he finish winning Grand Slams earlier than Nadal. Also, Djokovic is only one year younger than Nadal, and the difference in GS is bigger between him and Nadal (4 GS) than between Nadal and Federer (3 GS).
TheAssassin
Legend
Djokovic needs to build a new strong streak at Slams for that, so right now I would say it's unlikely. Sampras' spot is the next target anyway.
The important thing is he showed that he can win Majors again like we have seen last week.
The important thing is he showed that he can win Majors again like we have seen last week.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Nadal catches Fed if he wins 3 more majors than what Fed achieves in his career.
‘Benefit of known target’ plus technology and all other factors needs to be weighted
‘Benefit of known target’ plus technology and all other factors needs to be weighted
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For starters.
A three-major-title margin merely makes arguing the case more difficult.
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Fedalovic to all finish on 20 slams so TTW can be trapped into an eternal flame war.
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PETE would be the GOAT in that scenario imo
Tennis_Hands
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It depends, but now it will get ugly.
Both Djokovic and Nadal sense that their time at the top is limited, so they have to make the most of it.
There is no time for the waiting game, so, whoever wins more in the next 6 Majors, will have the final word vs the one he is chasing.
That is if Federer doesn't win more Majors.
If he does win one more it gets immensely difficult for Nadal.
Two, and it is over.
Both Djokovic and Nadal sense that their time at the top is limited, so they have to make the most of it.
There is no time for the waiting game, so, whoever wins more in the next 6 Majors, will have the final word vs the one he is chasing.
That is if Federer doesn't win more Majors.
If he does win one more it gets immensely difficult for Nadal.
Two, and it is over.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
Its certainly very interesting going forward. I think after USO we will have a clearer picture as to both Djokovic and Nadals form.
Nadal has been playing very good most this year, when hes competing. Djokovic we will need to wait and see. He has played in 7 USO finals, so hes as good there as Australia, just without getting over the finish line.
I think its very interesting with the likes of Del Potro and Anderson playing great right now also. No reason Ando cant do damage to some big players at the USO .
If I was to guess id give Djokovic and Nadal another 1 each going into next Wimbledon.
BUT if Djoker manages to take RG from Nadal next year, hes on his way to surpassing him for sure.
Nadal has been playing very good most this year, when hes competing. Djokovic we will need to wait and see. He has played in 7 USO finals, so hes as good there as Australia, just without getting over the finish line.
I think its very interesting with the likes of Del Potro and Anderson playing great right now also. No reason Ando cant do damage to some big players at the USO .
If I was to guess id give Djokovic and Nadal another 1 each going into next Wimbledon.
BUT if Djoker manages to take RG from Nadal next year, hes on his way to surpassing him for sure.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Yeah, PETE dominated all his main rivals and kept them at bay. None of them even came close to his slam count.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Slow HC won't help Ando as much as grass did.
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
The ordering of the greats of this era shall be as it always has been.
Federer's slam count > Nadal's slam count > Novak Djokovic's slam count
No-one is catching up with anyone, I'm afraid.
Federer's slam count > Nadal's slam count > Novak Djokovic's slam count
No-one is catching up with anyone, I'm afraid.
The 2018 U.S. Open seems massive to me...huge implications if any of the three win:
Big event.
*Also, we can't discount the possibility of Nadal winning the 2019 Australian Open, which could lead to Nadal tying Federer after the 2019 French Open. Of course, it's also possible that Nadal wins the U.S. Open and then gets injured.
-if Federer wins, he's at 21 Majors vs. 17 for Nadal and 13 for Djokovic and he's the favorite to three-peat at the Australian Open. Hard to see the other two closing that gap;
-if Nadal wins, he's at 18 Majors vs. 20 for Federer, which is the smallest gap ever between the two. Barring a Federer three-peat at the Australian, it's likely the gap is 1 Major after the French;*
-if Djokovic wins, he's at 14 Majors vs. 17 for Nadal and 20 for Federer. He has all the momentum in the world going into 2019 and his favorite Major: the Australian Open.
-if Nadal wins, he's at 18 Majors vs. 20 for Federer, which is the smallest gap ever between the two. Barring a Federer three-peat at the Australian, it's likely the gap is 1 Major after the French;*
-if Djokovic wins, he's at 14 Majors vs. 17 for Nadal and 20 for Federer. He has all the momentum in the world going into 2019 and his favorite Major: the Australian Open.
Big event.
*Also, we can't discount the possibility of Nadal winning the 2019 Australian Open, which could lead to Nadal tying Federer after the 2019 French Open. Of course, it's also possible that Nadal wins the U.S. Open and then gets injured.
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
you need a 3rd and 4th choice. 3. Both will happen. 4. Neither will happen,
Your finger must have slipped on your keyboard--clearly you meant 4.
Give this man a cookie. Things have been heading this way for ages (ie bascially since the late 2000's), and nothing has been shown that could change the narrative.
Mike Sams
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Anderson is a bigger threat to the big 3 if he can meet them in the QF. That's where he's most dangerous. He has zero chance in a final.
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Anyone But Zverev
GabeT
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Really? Ages? The only reason Nadal hasn't caught up is because Fed decided not to retire at 34. That strikes me as more of an historical accident than a multi-year trend. What if Fed had declared he was retiring at the end of 2016? No one would have thought that strange.
justasport
Professional
Roger: 23
Rafa: 19
Nole: 15
Rafa: 19
Nole: 15
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
I don't know. I remember being asked the same question on another forum at the end of the 00's (regarding Fed and Nadal only at the time, ofc) and my answer was the same. But then, I was convinced then that Nadal would retire *before* Federer (and I'm still not convinced otherwise atm, even though Nadal exceeded my expectations in that respect). He never was any closer than 3, which is still a big deal, any way you look at it.
Day_Tripper
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To give some perspective to those that think Nadal will pass Federer in 2014 the difference in slam count was three. Nadal effectively hasn't closed the gap in four years.
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who cares? they're the GOATs, hope they'll never stop
I think neither will happen, but Djokovic getting back on top will almost certainly help Federer. It will be tough for Nads to get by Djoker on HC/grass, and i cant see Nads winning 4 more FO's.
I think the Bullzillions regretted their wish for Djokovic to get back on top to stop Roger at Wimbledon.
I think the Bullzillions regretted their wish for Djokovic to get back on top to stop Roger at Wimbledon
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True Fanerer
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Neither Djokovic or Nadal have proven anything at all on HC this year. I'd be concerned if I were a fan of either guy when this is taken into consideration. Don't let the old man slip away with the UO .
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Eren
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Yes but Pete was lucky that Nadal wasn't present in his era. Nadal would win the same amount of RG in Pete's era as in this one. According to some posters, RG was even slower in Sampras's time favouring Nadal even more. So Nadal would have at least 11 RG in Pete's era as well which is pretty close to Sampras's total tally of 14.
There is absolutely no doubt that Nadal would win the same amount of RGs as he has done now as in any other era (perhaps against Borg it would be an issue) given his insane dominance in the entire clay court season: Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome and RG.
roysid
Hall of Fame
We were wondering about this question since 2016. Still the same scenario.
When Federer reached 16 slams, Nadal was at 6 and Djokovic 1 slam only - AO 2010
When Federer reached 17, Nadal has reached 11 slams and Djokovic 5 slams, - W 2012
When Nadal reached 14 slams, Fed was still at 17 and Djokovic 6, - RG 2014
Another 2 years, Then Djokovic reached 12 slams, Fed and Nadal were still at 17 and 14 . - RG 2016
Move ahead 2 years, djoko at 12, Fed and Nadal have moved to 20 and 17 slams respectively. RG 2018
However djokovic is back in next slam. Wins his 13th. The game changes again.
Interesting times ahead.
When Federer reached 16 slams, Nadal was at 6 and Djokovic 1 slam only - AO 2010
When Federer reached 17, Nadal has reached 11 slams and Djokovic 5 slams, - W 2012
When Nadal reached 14 slams, Fed was still at 17 and Djokovic 6, - RG 2014
Another 2 years, Then Djokovic reached 12 slams, Fed and Nadal were still at 17 and 14 . - RG 2016
Move ahead 2 years, djoko at 12, Fed and Nadal have moved to 20 and 17 slams respectively. RG 2018
However djokovic is back in next slam. Wins his 13th. The game changes again.
Interesting times ahead.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
Yes but my point was more that he went all the way last year, and his confidence must be sky high right now. I think he will be dangerous.
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