Wilson website and the Baiardo

ewf1970

New User
I've been waiting to purchase a new Baiardo directly from Wilson, but now when I go to the site I'm only seeing the Baiardo "L" as an option. Does anyone have any information on whether or not they will be selling these again on the Wilson site or will I need to go to another retailer?
 

Soundbyte

Hall of Fame
I've been waiting to purchase a new Baiardo directly from Wilson, but now when I go to the site I'm only seeing the Baiardo "L" as an option. Does anyone have any information on whether or not they will be selling these again on the Wilson site or will I need to go to another retailer?
Reach out to them or ask your local rep
 

Soundbyte

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Maybe a Baiardo replacement is coming soon.:p
It would be nice - it's been many years since it came out. But I see it eventual replacement bring like $8000, if they continue with the ridiculous price increases we've been seeing
 

kkm

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It would be nice - it's been many years since it came out. But I see it eventual replacement bring like $8000, if they continue with the ridiculous price increases we've been seeing
IMHO $8000 now wouldn’t be insane, when you look at the prices of machines like the Dunlop 3.0, and when you consider that the Baiardo was $6000 when it came out in 2008.
 

Soundbyte

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IMHO $8000 now wouldn’t be insane, when you look at the prices of machines like the Dunlop 3.0, and when you consider that the Baiardo was $6000 when it came out in 2008.
That's valid, but the Baiardo doesn't do enough (nor do others like Yonex, Dunlop, Babolat, etc) to justify the price differences from the likes of the Alpha Ghost or Tourna machines.

Great machine, but if the next Gen isn't substantially innovative, I wouldn't justify the price bump to suggest it to others to buy.

But the stringing machine market is essentially two fold: 1) cheap drop weight machines for the home user or 2) pro level machines.

And the pro level machine market prices are arbitrarily high (IMO). But that's capitalism for you. If shops and tournaments will buy them at those Prices, then they're pricing them correctly enough
 

kkm

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That's valid, but the Baiardo doesn't do enough (nor do others like Yonex, Dunlop, Babolat, etc) to justify the price differences from the likes of the Alpha Ghost or Tourna machines.

Great machine, but if the next Gen isn't substantially innovative, I wouldn't justify the price bump to suggest it to others to buy.

But the stringing machine market is essentially two fold: 1) cheap drop weight machines for the home user or 2) pro level machines.

And the pro level machine market prices are arbitrarily high (IMO). But that's capitalism for you. If shops and tournaments will buy them at those Prices, then they're pricing them correctly enough
IMHO the Yonex Precision 5.0 is a terrible deal, and the Dunlop 3.0 isn’t a great deal. I also think that the Alpha and especially Tourna machines are way overrated. The Babolat price isn’t nuts, and it‘s got features that appeal to me over the other machines.
The stringing machine market is probably 1) drop weight machines, 2) lockouts, 3) iffy rotational and linear electronic constant pull, and 4) good linear electronic constant pull.
I wouldn’t give the tournament machine prices much weight, When you think about it, most of the tournament stringing teams at the 1000 level and majors are manufacturer teams - Yonex at the Australian, Shanghai 1000 (and Tokyo 500), Tecnifibre at the Miami 1000, Monte-Carlo 1000, (and DC 500), Head at the Indian Wells 1000 and Paris 1000, Wilson at the French and US, Wilson Italy at the Rome 1000 and WTF, and Babolat at Wimbledon and the Madrid 1000. The only Masters 1000 tournaments that aren’t manufacturer teams are the Cincinnati 1000 - P1 using a hodgepodge of different machines, the Toronto 1000 (Sporting Life, a big sporting goods retailer), and the Montreal 1000 (Tennis Giant, but basically sponsored by Head).
 
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Soundbyte

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I'm formally taking @kkm first comment as hopefully insider knowledge. and in fact, a replacement is on its way.

I eagerly await this!
 

SavvyStringer

Professional
That's valid, but the Baiardo doesn't do enough (nor do others like Yonex, Dunlop, Babolat, etc) to justify the price differences from the likes of the Alpha Ghost or Tourna machines.

Great machine, but if the next Gen isn't substantially innovative, I wouldn't justify the price bump to suggest it to others to buy.

But the stringing machine market is essentially two fold: 1) cheap drop weight machines for the home user or 2) pro level machines.

And the pro level machine market prices are arbitrarily high (IMO). But that's capitalism for you. If shops and tournaments will buy them at those Prices, then they're pricing them correctly enough
Personal opinion as is everything on the internet, the Baiardo is head and shoulders above any of the dunlop, head, solinco, tourna, alpha, etc. To truly get the full scale of the difference you have to have actually used them. The baiardo is signifantly more well built than the others. Aluminum case vs. plastic case, hydrolic height adjustment vs. mostly crank or pull and pull a pin to adjust. The baiardo feels more strudy on the tension head and clamps (both versions) from what I have heard from guys that have used the Precision 9.0, it is real competition and depending on what you like about machines a better machine. Most people are used to most of the machines so they're used to stringing flat. I use the Baiardo BEST system on every racket so I prefer that machine and those features to everything else.
 

kkm

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Personal opinion as is everything on the internet, the Baiardo is head and shoulders above any of the dunlop, head, solinco, tourna, alpha, etc. To truly get the full scale of the difference you have to have actually used them. The baiardo is signifantly more well built than the others. Aluminum case vs. plastic case, hydrolic height adjustment vs. mostly crank or pull and pull a pin to adjust. The baiardo feels more strudy on the tension head and clamps (both versions) from what I have heard from guys that have used the Precision 9.0, it is real competition and depending on what you like about machines a better machine. Most people are used to most of the machines so they're used to stringing flat. I use the Baiardo BEST system on every racket so I prefer that machine and those features to everything else.
The Baiardo is a well-built machine and plenty sturdy, but the Japan-made Yonex models‘ tension head and clamps IMHO feel sturdier than the Baiardo’s. We’re not talking a night and day difference though, and I think the Baiardo might be the best value from what’s on the market.
 
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