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player69 said:BB,
Thanks for the detailed information. I love this game, but it is very fustrating at times. My tennis skills have been like a roller coaster ride. One month I'll be loving my ground strokes and the way I'm hitting. When I'm in this state of mind, I would think that I've found my comfort zone and all I need to do is improve on consistancy. Then the next month, I would be totally lost. I'ld have to start over again to find my grip and forehand. I've been making excuses about the strings and the weather, but I'm sure it's my grip. It seems as if my grip changes every 3 weeks or so.
Do you think the wonder wedge will help? I guess it doesn't hurt to try.
Do you have any other suggestions to help with my grip change?
hello again well today i re-gripped my sons racquets and at first he said it felt weird but it about 10 minutes he is hitting so much better i couldnt believe my eyes.... his strokes were crisper and fuller .... it was so rythmic .... i really need to get some more WWs for my sons other 2 racquets... please get back to me
my son will be going for the SUPER CHAMP status in Boys 18s here in SAN ANTONIO and i will get him to write a really in depth review for you so that you could possibly attract more younger customers!
thanks again for an AWESOME product!
I've tried the WW and it feels very weird at first. It only gives you three grip options: forehand, backhand, and continental. If you use any inbetween grips like I do, fuggetaboutit!
Tim Tennis said:Vin,
The WW is .75 inches wide on the base if that helps. When you take off the grip that your racquet came with, it will probably be very close to that. When you attach it with the tape if the bevel 3 is slightly smaller it will pull the sides down snug anyhow. It is approx. 6.25 inches long and can be cut to accomodate your hand size.
Tim, do you need to decrease your grip size by one if you apply the Wonder Wedge. For instance, I play with a 4 1/2, if I add the WW, it will become slightly larger than 4 1/2 and I might be better of equiping a 4 3/8 with the WW to come close to the 4 1/2 circumference?
One other question: The reason why I am interested in the Wonder Wedge is that I think it might alleviate the stress on my hand due to the increase of the contact surface between the racquet's grip and my hand. Is there any proof that WW reduces the forces imparted on your playing hand by spreading out the contact surface or is this just a matter of trying it out and see if it does the trick?
the butt cap is bigger than the rest of the handle..(you know how it flares)..how in the bajeebus do you attach the Wonder Wedge on it? Looking at the Wonder Wedge design, it's flat, making it rather difficult, unless cut. That, or leave a gap.
Second, what exactly is Sorbothane? Is it a soft rubber type that's easily cut? Or..?
Third, can you apply your own overgrip to this?
Would you say that the Wonder Wedge allows you to loosen your grip a bit more compared to a regular grip (due to the improved contact area)?
Ed,
Here are my thoughts so far:
- Installed the WW on my Estusa Power Beam Braided. Normally play without the leather grip and with 2 tournagrips. No problem putting the WW on - just put 1 tournagrip over it. Added a little more lead to the head as the WW made my already very head-light racquet even more so.
- Have played only about 4-5 hours with it, but here's my initial reaction:
- Really reinforces getting the grip in the right place. For me, it's now easier to "feel" what a semi-western feels like (and to get my hand in the right place). I think it highlights the fact that previously my grip was "sloppy" and what I thought was a SW grip was actually an eastern forehand. Same thing with "feeling" a continental grip. I think my sloppiness usually put my grip in an Eastern position and now I can feel where it should be.
- The new shape of the grip forces me into either a continental or semi-western grip (which is fine). Eastern now feels strange and I don't use.
- Biggest improvement has been getting continental grip in place for solid volleys. I've never volleyed better.
- Next biggest improvement is getting added leverage for topspin on SW strokes. Really reinforces the low to high swing. I have a 2 hand backhand - so the WW doesn't have much effect on my BH.
- Jury still out my serve. Again, I think the WW now highlights the fact that I'm not used to serving with a Continental grip. Haven't hit enough serves to really get used to it. Right now I'm getting lots of spin - but no pace or consistency. Determined to keep trying though.
Hope this helps. I'll check back in a few weeks as I play with it some more. Haven't felt like ripping the WW off the racquet yet - so that's probably a good sign. Feel free to email.
No problem! I'm glad you didn't take my post the wrong way.Tim Tennis said:Thanks for taking the time to write such a thoughtful and informative response. Very well said.
The second part is true, but I'm not too sure about the first part. At least not yet!Tim Tennis said:Obviously you are a very high level player who is very serious about his game.
After all you've said about it, I hope you use it. (or maybe I missed reading it)Bungalo Bill said:It is going to take time to get used to serving and hitting with the WW. It will take a couple months before ALL strokes feel "normal" again. That is when the biggest gains happen. You really begin to feel the leverage you can get with the WW and can take it to another level.
This just does not come on a few trys or a couple of days.
vin said:No problem! I'm glad you didn't take my post the wrong way.Tim Tennis said:Thanks for taking the time to write such a thoughtful and informative response. Very well said.
The second part is true, but I'm not too sure about the first part. At least not yet!Tim Tennis said:Obviously you are a very high level player who is very serious about his game.
Bill,
I understand that it takes time to adjust to change, but time will not change the way that the wonder wedge modifies the handle. Would you agree that the side panel is important for leverage and support during pronation? If so, don't you think it makes sense that a smaller side panel would provide less leverage for pronation?
Most changes come with negative consequences, and I think in this case that leverage against the side panel is being sacraficed for leverage against the bevels.
You're right that I don't have enough experience with the wonder wedge to back this up, but I still think it's a plausible argument for discussion.
I guess this argument could even be carried over to the narrow tour handle that is on some Volkl and Head racquets vs the more common handle.
I should also point out that I'm not claiming that the wonder wedge prevents you from effectively pronating, just that it might hinder it a bit. For some, this might not be a concern at all. For me it is.
I hope you guys tell Tim ways to improve the product as well. Tim already knows what I would like to have. I know he is open to hear your comments.
Your website is awful. Please fix formatting problems and hire a technical writer to write useful product information.
I tried Wonder Wedges on two of my racquets, Estusa PBB and Volkl Quantum 10. Both have handle size of 4 3/8. The WW is definitely too wide for Estusa. For Volkl, the WW fits quite well(though still a hair too large).
It would be nice if the WW is available in different sizes. Perhaps with the exception of Head's, the current product seems too wide for any raquets 4 1/4 or smaller.
The side bevel is just a bit wider than the wonder wedge, but I couldn't tell through the tape and overgrip. .
The side bevel of the racquet and the bevel of the wonder wedge felt like one big bevel
Tim Tennis said:Eagle,
Your Wonder Wedge went out this morning since I received your order Saturday 1:02, the post office closes here at 12.00am. It usually takes 3 days, sometimes 2. So this will give you some time to do a bunch of sit-ups, Chin-ups (How many can you do? I can do 15 with leg weights, on a good day), squeeze those hand grips, run up and down a few hills like Andre', I want you to be ready because I want you to Grip and Rip. I want "results not excuses" :lol:
You got to love the game.