Noleberic123
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5555 says that every single day.
Would Djokovic be greater than Nadal if...
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Rafa the King
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Did he refer to that stupid ESPN post again?
Noleberic123
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Tiki-Taka
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I can only imagine what the Former Pro Player section will look like in several years when the Big 3 retire. It won't look good. 
Rafa the King
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I can only imagine what the Former Pro Player section will look like in several years when the Big 3 retire. It won't look good.
Probably more posts than in GD with the ****storm of a generation we are left with once Andy and Noke retire
kandamrgam
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Nope. Kokkinakis fans will take over TTW, the true next gen superstar.
5555
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I do not know. What matters is that ESPN is a reliable source and it says a panel of more than 40 experts has ranked Djokovic above Nadal .
Can you provide a reliable source that says there are experts who rank Nadal above Djokovic since Novak won RG?
metsman
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Can you prove ESPN is a reliable source without a misguided appeal to authority?
Thought I might as well underline everything as I don't have your "special" gift.
Tennis_Hands
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Incorrect as ITF already acknowledged in the past.
Damn fakestorians everywhere.
ScentOfDefeat
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Incorrect as ITF already acknowledged in the past.
Damn fakestorians everywhere.
Acknowledged what?
Tennis_Hands
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ScentOfDefeat
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That Navratilova won the Grand Slam.
But she didn't. But she has other amazing statistics that make her a top tier player.
Tennis_Hands
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ScentOfDefeat
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Well ITF acknowledged that she did.
I never saw that. But if they did, they're wrong.
Institutions make mistakes all the time.
Tennis_Hands
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The true spirit of the Grand Slam is that a player is able to show uninterrupted dominance where it most counts (at the biggest events with different character).
So, both factually and as an idea 4 in a row represent the Grand Slam.
But, like I said before, I can live with the differing opinions like yours as long as they are not trying to manipulate the facts.
5555
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ESPN is a very well-known sports media conglomerate.
Tennis_Hands
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metsman
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That is an appeal to authority. You have lost the argument.
5555
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Mail on Sunday is a very well-known newspaper too.
Mail on Sunday is a tabloid.
"Not every reliance upon the testimony of authority figures is fallacious."
http://atheism.about.com/od/logicalfallacies/a/authority_2.htm
No, I have not.
Tennis_Hands
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5555
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Do you dispute that it is a very well-known newspaper?
I dispute Mail on Sunday is comparable to ESPN.
Tennis_Hands
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So you now just have to establish what is the link between ESPN being a "well-known sports media conglomerate" and their credibility as tennis experts.
Easy-peasy for an attentive student like you.
Is that a fact or an opinion ?
Phoenix1983
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Djokovic is now greater than Nadal, IMHO.
Yes, Nadal has two more slams - but Djokovic won four in a row (the first man since Laver to do so), has spent far more time as No 1 than Nadal (i.e. has his own era), has won more Masters, far more YECs (Nadal has none) and a winning H2H against his rival.
It's close though. I rank Djokovic 5th and Nadal 6th all time.
Yes, Nadal has two more slams - but Djokovic won four in a row (the first man since Laver to do so), has spent far more time as No 1 than Nadal (i.e. has his own era), has won more Masters, far more YECs (Nadal has none) and a winning H2H against his rival.
It's close though. I rank Djokovic 5th and Nadal 6th all time.
5555
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So you now just have to establish what is the link between ESPN being a "well-known sports media conglomerate" and their credibility as tennis experts.
Easy-peasy for an attentive student like you.
Unreliable sources tend to be little known.
I'll answer that when you answer this http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...-time-greats-if-he.518919/page-2#post-8957681
Tardigrade
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Can't put 12 ahead of 14 just yet. Djokovic will obviously get to 14 slams though. When this happens, his superior WTF record, along with his H2H records, as well as being the only guy in recent times to hold all four slams will put him ahead of Sampras and Nadal. People are talking as if Djokovic is in a slump. He's just won Toronto, and lost a tight match to a very worthy opponent.
The only way Djokovic won't get to 14 slams is if he retires or gets injured.
On the other hand, when Nadal won 10 slams, they did try to convince us that Nadal was indeed the GOAT. I hope they realise how silly they sounded.
The only way Djokovic won't get to 14 slams is if he retires or gets injured.
On the other hand, when Nadal won 10 slams, they did try to convince us that Nadal was indeed the GOAT. I hope they realise how silly they sounded.
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