Wrong in Klippermate Stringing Patterns data?

[ChimpChimp]

Did you ever find mistakes in Klippermate Stringing Patterns?

It says to tie off crosses at 5T. 5 is a regular hole, 6 is a big hole. I couldn't push the string through. The string is poly and I used a plier. I pushed till the string head bent and no way it could pass through. 6 was easy. I couldn't find official pattern info for this old racquet.

 

[jim e]

@ChimpChimp
The pattern for that frame you have listed is correct.
Thunderlite MP

Any chance the grommet set was replaced with another model grommet set?
The number 5H opening in racquet looks like it can take a larger diameter grommet,look at the space around grommet on 5, between racquet and grommet. Makes me think grommet set was possibly replaced with a similar but different grommet set. This sometimes happens when original grommet set is no longer available. My best guess.
If grommet set was replaced with a different one, then you just tie off on grommet that is available to accept the second string through it.

Over the years stringing, I have seen a few older racquets, mainly Head racquets, but a few others as well, where tie offs are not where they are supposed to be, and it is typically a replacement grommet set as original is no longer available. A replacement grommet set was used that had similar pattern, but different tie off spots, and grommet set fit the racquet, but in effect changed location of tie offs.The person who swapped grommets would know and it can throw off the next stringer that gets it. Just use whatever grommet is available to tie.

Maybe @Irvin will comment with his thoughts, as he is the "GURU" on this site.
Like I said, it's my best guess on this one.

 

[ChimpChimp]

Photo of whole frame added.

 

[ChimpChimp]

My Donnay Pro One 97 is XeneCore and has 8 throat strings. How can mains be tied off at the bottom? I tie off at 8T instead. The design has text printed on the frame saying 'tie main' on 8T too.

I notice there are many versions of Pro One 97. XeneCore, HexaCore, Penta. Do some have 6 throat strings?

 

[Irvin]

My Donnay Pro One 97 is XeneCore and has 8 throat strings. How can mains be tied off at the bottom?

Easy run the tie off string from the head of the racket all the way down to the throat to tie off. Why do you ask that silly question. LMAO

 

[max]

My only experience in this line was finding out---for a squash racquet---that Kmate's pattern was correct, whereas the MANUFACTURER ITSELF had the wrong pattern on its corporate website!

Say chimp, chimp let me know when you get those wing nuts.

 

[esgee48]

KM's customer service is Very Good. When in doubt, email them, especially if you suspect that there is something strange about the info. The source of their info is the USRSA Digest, so if you ask nicely, they will reply back with frames that predate their starting point. What I found is that their frame descriptions are sometimes lacking specifics such as I found with certain Prince Textreme frames. But you can muddle thru and still tie off correctly by looking for frame labels/markings.

 

[max]

KM's customer service is Very Good. When in doubt, email them, especially if you suspect that there is something strange about the info. The source of their info is the USRSA Digest, so if you ask nicely, they will reply back with frames that predate their starting point. What I found is that their frame descriptions are sometimes lacking specifics such as I found with certain Prince Textreme frames. But you can muddle thru and still tie off correctly by looking for frame labels/markings.

Yeah, when I was starting out I wanted to do a couple of old wood frames and they did a lot of telephonic hand-holding. Of course there was no pattern for the old frames in the book or online that I could find, and they explained it all pretty painstakingly. I've just had sterling experiences with them.

 

[Wes]

Did you ever find mistakes in Klippermate Stringing Patterns?

Yes.
On rare instances, there are/have been mistakes.
If you put on your thinking cap, you'll see that the instructions (indicating the mains to be tied off at 8Bottom) clearly can not happen with your frame.

16 mains, with 8 holes in the throat bridge, do not tie off at 8Bottom.
Why? Because your main strings don't end at the throat/bottom... they end back at the head of the frame. Your mains tie off somewhere at the head end.

My Donnay Pro One 97 is XeneCore and has 8 throat strings. How can mains be tied off at the bottom? I tie off at 8T instead. The design has text printed on the frame saying 'tie main' on 8T too.

I notice there are many versions of Pro One 97. XeneCore, HexaCore, Penta. Do some have 6 throat strings?

So... one of two things is going here.
(a) Klippermate has simply made an error, regarding where the mains tie off.
(b) Your Pro One 97 is a different model than the one listed by Klippermate.
The frame in the listing would need to have mains starting at the Throat (2, 6, or 10 holes in the bridge) in order for the mains to end back at the Throat (and, subsequently, be tied off at 8Bottom).

Everything is explained clearly in my post found here...

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/hoping-to-string-my-new-babolat-wimbledon-2012-pure-drive-myself.557112/#post-10093533

 

[aussie]

To answer the OP question, yes I sometimes find the Klipper USA patterns to be wrong. I also have found the racquet manufacturers official patterns to be wrong on occasions. Generally relatively minor errors though that moderately proficient stringers can overcome.

What I find unusual between the Klipper patterns and manufacturer patterns are the terms for the head and throat. Klipper uses top and bottom (T and B) and manufacturers (and the USRSA from memory) use head and throat (H and T).

I always double check when T is shown on a pattern because it's polar opposites if it's Klipper or official!!!

Not sure why Klipper went that way but shame they weren't consistent with official/manufacturer patterns.