Mustard
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LOL. Some of you guys are obsessed with what we think about Federer.
ATP 5-set Records (five set)
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LOL. Some of you guys are obsessed with what we think about Federer.
Bud
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This thread (which is nearly 1.5 years old) has nothing to do with Nadal vs Federer so go troll elsewhere
Bud
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Thanks. We started it before the ATP site added 5-set records to their stats.
However, it would be great if the ATP site also added the individual matchups with their stats.
I'll keep this thread going until it happens.
Bud
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Agreed... 10 years on tour playing only 18 5-setters and losing just 3 is an incredible record.
That's an average of 1.8 5-set matches per year and a loss of one 5-set match every 3 years and 4 months.
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madsta1234
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thats good for nadal
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Bud
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I mean the match score of Wawrinka vs. Hewitt on Wawrinka's list of 5-setters
The ATP site has Wawrinka 2-1 in 5-set matches this year.. and (26) 5-set matches total
I only have him playing two 5-set matches in 2011 and 24 total
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He beat Tsonga in 5 at he FO this year (I missed that one).. But where is the missing match?
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Bud
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I have often thought that this is an important stat and am surprised that it isn't highlighted as much as it used to be. Heads to heads may be more important, but those being roughly equal, I will take the ironman when it goes into the fifth.
Of course, some of the most entertaining five setters in tennis history were Aaron's.
Of course, some of the most entertaining five setters in tennis history were Aaron's.
Mustard
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Ferrer and Delpo need updating
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I have often thought that this is an important stat and am surprised that it isn't highlighted as much as it used to be. Heads to heads may be more important, but those being roughly equal, I will take the ironman when it goes into the fifth.
Of course, some of the most entertaining five setters in tennis history were Aaron's.
Here are all of Krickstein's matches that went into a fifth set:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4816199&postcount=74
Bud
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Thanks M! BTW, great to see Nadal win another DC title with Spain!
I have mixed feelings about career 5-set matches. For those with high numbers of 5th set matches, it seem to hint that they can't get long matches done in 3 or 4 sets. On the other hand, it shows they are a fighter if they were down 0-2 and come back to win :|
Be interesting to hear Mustard's take on large numbers of career 5-set matches (Hewitt for example).
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Mustard
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Fantastic. It's also the first time that Nadal won the rubber that clinched it
You sum it up pretty well. Guys like Hewitt and Safin have a tendency to have a lot of dramatic matches that go into fifth sets. Hewitt is well known as a fighter, who would get more tenacious even if his playing level dropped off a bit for parts of the match. Safin's reputation is a bit more mixed. Nevertheless, Safin seemed to thrive in fifth sets because if he got that far, then he's in the mood to win.
beast of mallorca
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This is a good reference. Good job Bud/Mustard. Thanks.
Fantastic. It's also the first time that Nadal won the rubber that clinched it
You sum it up pretty well. Guys like Hewitt and Safin have a tendency to have a lot of dramatic matches that go into fifth sets. Hewitt is well known as a fighter, who would get more tenacious even if his playing level dropped off a bit for parts of the match. Safin's reputation is a bit more mixed. Nevertheless, Safin seemed to thrive in fifth sets because if he got that far, then he's in the mood to win.
Now that Hewitt's nearing the end he's been losing a number of heartbreaking 5 setters. His tenacity is still there but he's broken down... it's sad.
Bud
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vernonbc
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Good point. There's going to be a big shakeup in the next year or two as a lot of the guys that are a little long in the tooth will call it a day once they have a last moment of glory walking into the Olympic arena with their country's team and it will be interesting to see which younger players step up to fill the void.
The press reported Nastase losing the third set 0-6.
This Associated Press report has Borg winning the third set in a bagel and taking 11 games in a row: http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAAIBAJ&pg=5565,3128170&dq=borg+nastase&hl=en
Also see http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAAIBAJ&pg=5699,2922720&dq=borg+nastase&hl=en
I've contacted the ITF about it (they have the third set as 4-6, same as the ATP does).
Edit: here's a post for historical comparison (Von Cramm's five-set record): http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=6213294#post6213294
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Mustard
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Hmmm. So is it 0-6? One would have to think contempary press releases are pretty reliable.
It's also listed as 0-6 in this compilation of Borg's exos (funny how the ATP and ITF now count it as an official match, not an exo): http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=234431
The source for that match is not listed directly but he says he compiled the list mostly from Swedish newspapers.
