What are the implications of Federer's slam count advantage if he meets Rafa at AO?

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
This argument is stupid. Sabratha is making excuses that I'm ashamed of as a Federer fan. Just stop it. Anyway, on topic, I would say that the slam count means nothing. Unless Nadal comes back less than what he was by a half decent margin Federer will have trouble with him as he always does.

I agree, both the Nadal and Federer camps are making pathetic excuses. It does not matter what the circumstances were when a player wins a slam. A win is a win. There will be no excuses marked in the history books beside a win.
 

sonicare

Hall of Fame
I agree, both the Nadal and Federer camps are making pathetic excuses. It does not matter what the circumstances were when a player wins a slam. A win is a win. There will be no excuses marked in the history books beside a win.

Exactly and when people look at the history books, it will tell them that Nadal could never beat Rosol. There will be a asterik mark next to it due to an attempted head butt by Nadal to derail Rosol.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Exactly and when people look at the history books, it will tell them that Nadal could never beat Rosol. There will be a asterik mark next to it due to an attempted head butt by Nadal to derail Rosol.

It is true that Nadal's loss to Rosol in the second round of Wimbledon is one of the worst losses ever by any tennis great in a slam but, at the same time, Nadal's 11 slam titles trump that one time only loss to Rosol.
 

sonicare

Hall of Fame
It is true that Nadal's loss to Rosol in the second round of Wimbledon is one of the worst losses ever by any tennis great in a slam but, at the same time, Nadal's 11 slam titles trump that one time only loss to Rosol.

Ofcourse but those 2 are separate issues.

Nah,it's namecalling if you use it in the manner in which you did,Freud. And my sense of reality is just fine,thank you.

Why are you getting so defensive?
 

Clarky21

Banned
It is true that Nadal's loss to Rosol in the second round of Wimbledon is one of the worst losses ever by any tennis great in a slam but, at the same time, Nadal's 11 slam titles trump that one time only loss to Rosol.


I know it was bad,but is it really this bad? When you factor in the circumstances,I don't really think it is.
 

Clarky21

Banned
Ofcourse but those 2 are separate issues.



Why are you getting so defensive?


I'm not. I'm actually pretty chill considering I am trying to converse with someone who is totally irrational when it comes to anything related to my favorite player. :)
 

tusharlovesrafa

Hall of Fame
Rosol has already proven that he can beat Nadal on the biggest stage in 5 sets.

Its NADAL who HAS to prove that he can beat Rosol.

The only thing we know is that everytime Nadal plays Rosol, Rosol beats him

Rosol has a 100% winning percentage against Nadal.

Get over it. I will however add that it is a matchup issue. Nadal cannot handle the heat against Rosol.

And as the saying goes "if you cant handle the heat, dont come in the kitchen" and thats why Nadal hasn't since step foot in a tennis court again.

LOL..For a good laugh in the morning!
 

sonicare

Hall of Fame
I'm not. I'm actually pretty chill considering I am trying to converse with someone who is totally irrational when it comes anything related to my favorite player. :)

Your emotional bias towards a player is making your delusions even worse
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
I know it was bad,but is it really this bad? When you factor in the circumstances,I don't really think it is.

What circumstances? That he was "injured?" Please! He did not look injured to me and besides if a player takes to the court one assumes he is ready to play.

Yes, I think it is one of the worst losses ever for a great in slam history, especially considering Nadal's age. I have seen many sports writers say this is one of the worst losses ever, so I am not alone here.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
An 11 time slam winner has to prove that he can beat an arrogant mug like Rosol over the rest of their careers to prove it wasn't a fluke? :lol: Give me a break,will ya? Rosol needs to prove that HE can beat a healthy Nadal over 5 sets again,and considering that he can barely make it out of qualies,I doubt he will even get the chance. I also can't wait for the "Rosol has a winning record against Nadal" threads to pop up when it's all said and done. Lol.


And even if Nadal beats Rosol a hundred times(if he can even make it into the main draw,that is)people like you will STILL be insisting that Rosol will get him next time. They still do the same exact thing when it comes to Soderling on clay.

Relax man. I will insist no such things, and I will make no such threads. Nadal has proven himself. I was simply talking in the context of the thread. Fact is that if by some chance Nadal and Rosol play again, and if by some 0.00000001% chance Rosol wins then his first win cannot really be termed a fluke by definition, therefore by definition Nadal has to prove he can beat Rosol. And please don't break out the "healthy" excuse. That's a large part of the reason why I hate Nadal fans.
 
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Clarky21

Banned
What circumstances? That he was "injured?" Please! He did not look injured to me and besides if a player takes to the court one assumes he is ready to play.

Yes, I think it is one of the worst losses ever for a great in slam history, especially considering Nadal's age. I have seen many sports writers say this is one of the worst losses ever, so I am not alone here.



Nah,I don't see it the same way. It was bad,but I do believe Nadal was hampered in that match. I'm not making excuses for him,but I think it played a roll in his loss.

I also don't take the opinion of 99% of these sports writer's seriously.
 

Clarky21

Banned
Relax man. I will insist no such things, and I will make no such threads. Nadal has proven himself. I was simply talking in the context of the thread. Fact is that if by some chance Nadal and Rosol play again, and if by some 0.00000001% chance Rosol wins then his first win cannot really be termed a fluke by definition, therefore by definition Nadal has to prove he can beat Rosol. And please don't break out the "healthy" excuse. That's a large part of the reason why I hate Nadal fans.


Woman. I'm a chick. Lol.


Mugsol has to actually make it out of qualies first,and if he ever does and they play,I am confident that Nadal will beat him. We will just have to wait and see but Mugsol does not worry me in the slightest.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Nah,I don't see it the same way. It was bad,but I do believe Nadal was hampered in that match. I'm not making excuses for him,but I think it played a roll in his loss.

I also don't take the opinion of 99% of these sports writer's seriously.

Things always play a role in a player's loss, but it does not matter, a loss is a loss, and that was a bad loss, one of the worst for any great in slam history. Fact. The other side of that however is that Nadal has 11 slams and those 11 slams will trump the one terrible 2nd round slam loss to the titan Rosol.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Woman. I'm a chick. Lol.

Sorry about that.

Mugsol has to actually make it out of qualies first,and if he ever does and they play,I am confident that Nadal will beat him. We will just have to wait and see but Mugsol does not worry me in the slightest.

I know, I'm also confident Nadal can beat him if they ever play again. Again, I was simply throwing out a different POV. I wasn't trying to discredit Nadal.
 
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NadalAgassi

Guest
The biggest ever upset at Wimbledon in the early rounds was Becker losing to Doohan in 1987. Becker was the overwhelming favorite to win that Wimbledon. Nadal was only arguably the slight favorite to win this years Wimbledon ahead of Djokovic and Federer, and Sampras was way past his prime and not the favorite to win Wimbledon 2002, and all 3 lost to an equally weak opponent. On the other hand in some ways Sampras's loss was the worst since Bastl just played his usual average tennis to beat him, while Doohan and Rosol both played out of their minds and unbelievably well, even if also aided by poor play from Becker and Nadal.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
The biggest ever upset at Wimbledon in the early rounds was Becker losing to Doohan in 1987. Becker was the overwhelming favorite to win that Wimbledon. Nadal was only arguably the slight favorite to win this years Wimbledon ahead of Djokovic and Federer, and Sampras was way past his prime and not the favorite to win Wimbledon 2002, and all 3 lost to an equally weak opponent. On the other hand in some ways Sampras's loss was the worst since Bastl just played his usual average tennis to beat him, while Doohan and Rosol both played out of their minds and unbelievably well, even if also aided by poor play from Becker and Nadal.

I said Nadal's second round loss at W was "one of" the worst losses of a great in a slam ever. Stop making excuses for Nadal, it was a "bad" loss right on par with Becker's loss to Doohan no matter how you try and spin it.
 

Clarky21

Banned
Are you eva gonna grow up? Seriously sad...



Yeah,because I asked the original question. How about learning to read and comprehend before you open your mouth.


Oh,and nice sig. Too bad for you they lost in the first round of the playoffs.
 
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Tammo

Banned
Yeah,because I asked the original question. How about learning to read and comprehend before you open your mouth.

Yes, but you forgot to point out that you did not reply to the original question, so I guess Stevie was right there wasn't he?
 

Clarky21

Banned
Yes, but you forgot to point out that you did not reply to the original question, so I guess Stevie was right there wasn't he?



Nope,and what difference does it make? Man,this place is full of He-Man woman haters. It's quite scary how much woman hating there is on this forum.
 

Tammo

Banned
Nope,and what difference does it make? Man,this place is full of He-Man woman haters. It's quite scary how much woman hating there is on this forum.

Man, it is! Lol.


Well since "chicks" like you act this way it sorta gives us a lot of chance to bash you ya know.
 

R.Federer

Semi-Pro
Rosol has already proven that he can beat Nadal on the biggest stage in 5 sets.

Its NADAL who HAS to prove that he can beat Rosol.

The only thing we know is that everytime Nadal plays Rosol, Rosol beats him

Rosol has a 100% winning percentage against Nadal.

Get over it. I will however add that it is a matchup issue. Nadal cannot handle the heat against Rosol.

And as the saying goes "if you cant handle the heat, dont come in the kitchen" and thats why Nadal hasn't since step foot in a tennis court again.

loooooool full troll mode god i love you well done sir well done and clarky is taking the bait so gullable are people on this forum lol
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, but you forgot to point out that you did not reply to the original question, so I guess Stevie was right there wasn't he?

Just shut up FFS. I apologized. I didn't mean to start anything like this. She never asked the original question. soniccare is just being stupid.
 

Tammo

Banned
Just shut up FFS. I apologized. I didn't mean to start anything like this. She never asked the original question. soniccare is just being stupid.

Oops, yeah I meant to say sonicare, not you name. Just forgot who said what here. Accidentally calling someone a man is nothing to get worried about...
 

Clarky21

Banned
loooooool full troll mode god i love you well done sir well done and clarky is taking the bait so gullable are people on this forum lol


Nah,I didn't take the bait. I'm merely entertaining myself at Sonicare's expense. I know he is a troll. Always has been and always will be.

What's funny is how many He-Man woman hater's come out of the woodwork around here though. Seems like some of these dudes can't stand it when a woman speaks her mind.
 

R.Federer

Semi-Pro
Nah,I didn't take the bait. I'm merely entertaining myself at Sonicare's expense. I know he is a troll. Always has been and always will be.

What's funny is how many He-Man woman hater's come out of the woodwork around here though. Seems like some of these dudes can't stand it when a woman speaks her mind.

oh ok glad u see sense and know what hes about but i dont think they are he men they just have different opnions than you i guess its only a forum though people like to think they are internet warriors but in reality would not dare have a confrontation face to face
 

sonicare

Hall of Fame
Nah,I didn't take the bait. I'm merely entertaining myself at Sonicare's expense. I know he is a troll. Always has been and always will be.

What's funny is how many He-Man woman hater's come out of the woodwork around here though. Seems like some of these dudes can't stand it when a woman speaks her mind.

Stop being silly. I love women. Getting all my house work, washing, cooking,cleaning done for free. How can I not love women? They give me the free time I need to express my masculinity and be the stallion I am.
 

Tammo

Banned
Nah,I didn't take the bait. I'm merely entertaining myself at Sonicare's expense. I know he is a troll. Always has been and always will be.

What's funny is how many He-Man woman hater's come out of the woodwork around here though. Seems like some of these dudes can't stand it when a woman speaks her mind.

Another perfect example of taking the bait by reassuring all of TTW that you are not lol.
 

R.Federer

Semi-Pro
Stop being silly. I love women. Getting all my house work, washing, cooking,cleaning done for free. How can I not love women? They give me the free time I need to express my masculinity and be the stallion I am.

looool wow thats cold dawwg cooold
 

Tammo

Banned
Stop being silly. I love women. Getting all my house work, washing, cooking,cleaning done for free. How can I not love women? They give me the free time I need to express my masculinity and be the stallion I am.

You forgot wasing your back in the shower:)
 

sonicare

Hall of Fame
OMG what have I started? To be honest though, sonicare is making me laugh.

LOL...its 4 am here and I cant sleep so any chance to hustle clarky, i will gladly take. seems like she logged off.

Apologies to anyone who might have been offended.
 

R.Federer

Semi-Pro
LOL...its 4 am here and I cant sleep so any chance to hustle clarky, i will gladly take. seems like she logged off.

Apologies to anyone who might have been offended.

its fine you need to keep it up in the future the stallion part had me in stiches lool
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Low brow woman hating posts are not funny in the slightest. And I also doubt that Sonicare is any kind of a "stallion" at all,if you catch my drift. :wink:

Well if I was being serious I would say you were right, but since I'm not....

And yeah I caught your drift.
 
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NadalAgassi

Guest
I said Nadal's second round loss at W was "one of" the worst losses of a great in a slam ever. Stop making excuses for Nadal, it was a "bad" loss right on par with Becker's loss to Doohan no matter how you try and spin it.

Wow you are an incredibly stupid human being. I was just making some general points, and nothing I said was in anyway excuse making or disputing Nadal's loss at Wimbledon this year was a bad loss. Everytime I read your posts I realize your intellect is only on par with someone like TMF, abmk, and 6-1, 6-3, 6-0, when originally I falsely gave you more credit than that. Even if you werent an over the top Federer addictive troll you would be impossible to have a reasonable discussion with.
 
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