Why do you like Roddick?

[Datacipher]

After reading many posts for and against Roddick it's pretty apparent that some hate Roddick with a passion for various reasons valid or not. There are some who are in the middle, but may not like his game or whining.(I would fall in this group) and of course there are some who love Roddick with a passion.

So my question is (and I'm not trying to start a fight here, I've been wondering for a long time) why do you like Roddick?

This is going to sound bad to Roddick fans but I find his game ugly (though I do think his serve is great and I like watching him hit huge serves). So what do you like about Roddick, Big Ted, Susan....

Is it his game, his nationality, his good looks or perhaps something intangible that even you aren't aware of?

Be honest, I'm just curious.

Oh and one last question....why do you think Roddick inspires so much dislike?

 

[Nadal2]

Reasons why Roddick inspires so much dislike:
1. He's not Federer



2.The way he acted at the US Open last year, I was convinced by the end of the tournament that he wouldn't have won if he hadn't intimidated the linesmen or hadn't gotten very handy scheduling with the rain.

 

[VictorS.]

I cannot claim to be a longtime Roddick fan. In fact, early on I felt he was a bit too arrogant. However I really gained respect for him after his Australian Open loss to Safin. In the press conference, he really revealed himself to be a true sportsmen giving Safin his due. In addition, Roddick used the loss as motivation to improve. In a sense the losses to Safin and Federer have inspired him. He knew Safin revealed some deficiencies in his game. I think since then he's improved his net play somewhat and added more variety to his game. Obviously he hasn't improved enough to beat Federer. But I think you have to respect the way he competes and works hard. From a fan's perspective...you can't really ask for more.

Is his style of play pleasing to watch?? Difficult to say. He definitely lacks the artistic style that Federer seems to have. But he truly has an explosive game. Though his backhand is somewhat tame...his forehand and serve are explosive shots. The way he can rip a forehand in my eyes...is not boring.

 

[VamosRafa]

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[khs_tennis]

I aint gonna lie, I've always been a Roddick fan, well ever since i saw him play in 2001 us open (thats when i started playing tennis). And since then, i've been a fan ever since. The thing that sparked my liking Roddick was his game but more importantly his attitude and his antics on court. It spiced things up. It wasnt boring old tennis when he played. You didnt know what he was gonna do next besides trying bombing a serve. Thats what made him fun to watch, unlike some other players. I do like Federer's game but i find some players just boring to watch. Roddick is not like that.

 

[TennisBoy]

His game can be ugly when he's not on and hitting huge serves and forehands, i recall he even admit there are serious deficiecies in his game. But he states himself that he doesn't want to be the best player in the world with the most flaws. So his desire to improve is admirable. In addition, I wouldn't say i am a roddick fan either [and don't like how they are constantly showing roddick roddick roddick!], but u gotta give him credit for his resilency and fighting spirit. Time and time again he battles back and maintain his composure when he's down and has to constantly fight through tie breakers. No matter what you say about him, you can't deny his attitude and desire to improve is without question. This, in my opinion, is a common trait of any great athlete

 

[Datacipher]

Hmmm.....some good answers already.

Nadal2: It's funny you say that because that USO is when I also started to really dislike Roddick. Before that, I didn't like his complaining to umpires but it didn't really BOTHER me. When Nalbandian was complaining to the umpire and Roddick suddenly yelled out "don't be a pansy!" That was what did it for me. In all honesty if he did that to me on national tv while I was talking to the umpire, I'd probably walk over the net and give him a 150mph punch in the face....lol

Victor S: yes appreciation of style is obviously a subjective thing, I like explosive players and I like that element of Roddick but I find his movement gangly and awkward. However, that is only an opinion of course. I think you are absolutely right about appreciating a player who competes hard though, that is a good point!

Susan, yes, it was meant to be a positive thread or perhaps more precisely an honest one positive or negative. I know many have posted why they don't like Roddick, I wondered if some of his fans think the dislikers have hidden motives. Anyhow, he is giving the sport exposure in America although I don't know if that is because of him or because American marketing has decided to give him exposure. I do think he deserves credit for trying hard to improve though, so that is another good point! I wouldn't be so proud of his behavior were he my son. In fact, he'd be hearing about the outbursts....though overall, I think his behavior is good most of the time.

KHS: that is fair enough. He does have some explosive shots for sure and there is nothing wrong with enjoying that.


There is really nothing wrong with even being a fan "just because"....everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is just a sport so your reasons don't even have to be thoughtful or even rational! But I've heard a few good reasons so far....

 

[Grant Morgan]

I have known Andy for About a yr. I started working for him. Just after the French this yr. I can tell you this with out a dought. He is one of the nicest guys I have ever met. Yes when he is on the court he has an edge. We all said Pete was boring. Well Andy is not. This yr we went to Roam. The first night we were there the hotel caught fire. It was bad. the 3rd 4th 5th and 6th floor burned up. 3 people lost there lives. Andy was stuck on the 6th floor. He was able to get out side on his deck it was a huge deck made of concrete. While stuck out there there were 7 people most in there 60's who were trying to get down to the deck. Andy told them to jump. they did and he caught them.

In Feb he was playing Memphis and hurt his back pretty bad. He had to play Thomas Enqvist. He did and lost. After the match we had a DR ( bone cracker) work on him for about an hr. One of the guards came in and said there are some kids looking for autographs what should I tell them. Andy said ask them to line up and I will do it ok. We walked out of the locker room. there were about 125 people. Andy stood there and sighned every thing he could took photo's the whole deal. When we left he was sweating like he had just plaid a match. His back was killing him. The only thing he said was please don't pull on my arms.
Andy may not have the perfect game. What he has he uses the best he can. He works hard everyday to get better.He Is very good to the people who work for him. He thinks out loud and he is dead honest.

I am not trying to make him sound like he is the best thing ever or he is MR Can't do wrong. He is just a kid doing the best he can.

 

[VamosRafa]

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[VamosRafa]

Deleted Message. I thought this was going to be a pro-Andy thread, but it's another thread to malign him. Have been enough of those. I have nothing more to add. Just repetitive stuff.

 

[chicagohpch]

Many times when he tried to be funny on the court, I felt he was disrespectful and distracting to his opponents. He has been winning more than he should because a lot of people are intimidated by his big serve, which I don't think will last long. Watch the games at Cincin this week!

 

[The Franchise]

Top 5 reasons I like Roddick

5) He's the home team. Someone like Fed may be better, but it doesn't mean I have to like them better. The Yankees are great at baseball, but I hate them with a passion. I prefer my local team; they may or may not make the playoffs and sometimes they suck ass, but they're my team, the home team.

4) Attitude. I like players that show their emotion on the courts, whether good or bad. I like it when Hewitt yells "c'mon" or when Safin smashes a racquet. I like it when Andy high fives the crowd or gives the middle finger to the chair umpire. I think if Safin wants to drop his shorts, then let him drop his shorts, the guy is just expressing himself in ways that he knows how. Overall, it's not the specific things that players do, it's just some players have the "attitude" that I like. Oh yeah, my favorite in this category is McEnroe, and I don't mean Patrick.

3) Serve and forehand. I guess I'm a fan of the baseliners. I've always liked Agassi more than Sampras (although that probably has alot to do with attitude also). I remember really liking Lendl's game when I was a little kid, because he was just hitting the stuffing out of the balls it seemed like. Regarding Andy, I like the unique-ness of his serve, and I also like the way he can pound huge forehands to the other side of the net. Ugly game you say? Not to me.

2) I can relate to him. Roddick can be a nice guy at times, he can be a big a**hole at other times. Sometimes he's jumping for joy, sometimes he's smashing his racquets. He cracks jokes, has a potty mouth, likes going out with the girlies, and a big brat on occasions. All those things can be used to describe me also. Andy is money, and I'm sure he knows it too.

1) Because YOU hate him. I don't know about anyone else, but I like rooting for the bad guy. The more people that hate him, the more I like him. You guys may not like him because the media builds him up. I was in the same boat last year. I was rooting for Fed in the only match he lost to Roddick. Then I got to spend some time on this message board, and all that changed. The more Fed worshipping I got to read, the more I turned sour on Fed and the more I payed attention to Roddick.

 

[mlee2]

Reading the verbal masturbation that goes with Fed along with the exaggerated "Roddick is Satan" posts makes me want to be one of his fans.

 

[VamosRafa]

:lol: Franchise.

Glad I deleted my messages, coz you have it right on. I took the post too seriously, and you have it just right. :wink:

I especially like No. 1. I actually like Fed a lot, but you are right, the more you read how wonderful he is, the more it makes you want to see him finally lose. Just for something different. :lol:

And I expect that's why many folks don't like Andy. They read about how wonderful he was supposed to be before he was wonderful, and now that he is, in terms of his ranking, they hate him more.

Go for it. Hate him even more. Good for the game.

People love to watch who they hate.

And others love to root for the underdog. They get them both with Andy -- a guy they hate and the underdog. A perfect arrangement. :wink:

 

[StupidCupid]

I like A Dick because he is an "inspiration" to high school virgins like me ! Viva La DICK, all the way.................

 

[Chanchai]

First of all, I actually like his game. It's not the best game, it's not my favorite game. But I enjoy his game. The explosive nature is a big part of it. To me, it's a physical extension of the way he fights in most of his matches (most, not all, because there are moments like his loss at Roland Garros).

However, I also like seeing the way his game is maturing. I've been seeing lots of areas that are maturing or options opening up in his game that weren't there before. I see him actually trying to make fully conscious game-altering decisions, but ones still acknowledging what he uses. To me, that's mature--he knows his strengths and he works with them in mind, he knows his weaknesses and he finds ways to apply them a bit better--as time goes by. Just because I say he's maturing does not mean I'm saying he's the most mature guy out there or a completely mature adult either.

What I like most about his game is just what Mr. Morgan mentioned earlier... Roddick doesn't have all of the gifts of tennis. But he has certain gifts and he has certain adequacies, and as far as I can tell, he makes full use of them or at least makes a HUGE effort to make full use of them. His achievements already speak about how he's carried what he has to the higher levels of the game. Now, I'm not saying he's the only guy that does this or has done this, but it's something I REALLY LIKE ABOUT RODDICK. (But at the same time, you also want to see players like Federer make the full use of their abilities too, it's an uber treat).

About his personality... I like that Roddick is just an honest guy. He's not the smartest guy, but he's generally quick. He's certainly not at all the dumbest guy out there and far from it. He actually knows to acknowledge what he doesn't know (many people don't). As for the on-court humor, probably a matter of taste--sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't, but it's not like I have to like it. Off the court his personality is quite honest and that includes his interviews--they're only boring when his honesty is boring. He's not just recycling responses concocted by an agent.

The on-court behavior... Aside from the US Open 2001 (absolute moron) and Wimbledon 2003 (you would to cover your @$$), I would say there are far worse offenders on the court than Roddick. That doesn't excuse what he does, but he generally keeps it quick and brief. Some players let it linger and end up just whining all freaking day. Still doesn't excuse anything. But it doesn't bother me so much personally, but I do feel for the chair umpires--but I also feel that part of their job description includes putting up with such behavior and acting accordingly, it seems normal they put up with far worse behavior anyways, we just see more of Andy on TV than a lot of other players.

But I will say that it's part of him being honest. In some ways, it's a little better than incidents where Venus doesn't say anything about the Sprem Call and we treat her like an idiot for that. As long as it's not a lingering thing throughout the match or Roddick truly does something to **** off the umpire beyond belief (attack him, threaten him, spit at him, etc...)

So to sum it up... I like Roddick's game because of its explosive nature (as a contributing part of the world of tennis, a nice complement to all the other styles and approaches of play). I also like his game because he has a fighting spirit that manifests itself honestly on the court. And Roddick makes full effort to make the most or best use of what he has, and he doesn't have everything--the kid has worked hard like so many others and I admire that. I like Roddick's honesty on and off the court, though it will get him in trouble, but sometimes being dishonest is its own insult to the other person's intelligence too.

And Roddick's antics on court sometimes amuses me, rarely upsets me, and generally is something I just accept from a kid within limits. I also think the exposure we have to him makes it far easier to be critical of his social quirks on court. I don't see people lingering on spitting incidents (Santoro), constant whining and accusations (Nalbandian--I respect some of the accusations but there's a level that goes beyond imagination imo), being a b!^ch on court (Kiefer), snot rockets (Agassi/Santoro/etc...), or trainer abuse. We just linger at 5 word insults from Andy that just happened to be replayed on television over and over again, and we see Andy so much and he's on top now, so he's like the target of all of this. But I find the above listing things more offensive--yet I'll accept them as part of a player and try to avoid seeing some ("so Agassi shoots snot rockets all over the court, I'll just forget it happened and watch the tennis....").

-Chanchai

 

[VamosRafa]

This supports my long-standing theory that folks who have no knowledge of tennis feel they can somehow overcome that lack of knowledge by using some slang use of Andy's last name.

To me, they sound ignorant.

It's a matter of taste, I guess. :?: :roll:

Chanchai, those are very well thought comments, and I think that's a pretty fair assessment of Andy vis-a-vis other players.

He isn't perfect, but he isn't the :evil:.

 

[Young Pete]

I never liked Andy because he was just too arrogant from the beginning. He's not a class act. In my opinion, younger players should be Sampras-like.

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[VamosRafa]

Well, you won't like Rafael Nadal. He's Hewitt with an attitude. Only he yells in Spanish. :lol:

 

[Datacipher]

LOL at reason #1 Franchise. Contrarian and proud of it!

A good list, you have well thought out reasons...

 

[Datacipher]

Deleted Message. I thought this was going to be a pro-Andy thread, but it's another thread to malign him. Have been enough of those. I have nothing more to add. Just repetitive stuff.

This is just sad Susan. Your level of reasoning and bias was shown in the last thread. I only participated with you in that because I thought you would have the maturity to discuss the issue but you ducked all logical argument and have revealed yourself to be very close minded and a "fanboy" of the very type you have been condemning. So far, I think it's clear that this is not a Roddick bashing thread neither is it a Roddick praising thread as you might have wished for. It is turning out to be getting very honest, thoughtful responses which is what I wished for.

 

[Datacipher]

Good post Chanchai, I agree with a lot of what you said. LOL, first time I heard somebody mention snot rockets! (I also think it's digusting, but I let it go because it happens in other sports and maybe we need a little macho blood/sweat out there for the tennis image....but I wouldn't want to step in it...or worse yet fall in it!)

So far a lot of supporters seem to be saying:

1.explosive game
2.displays emotion
3.trying hard to improve game
4.attitude (the competitive part)

and some seem to agree that Roddick goes over the line with his bad behavior sometimes but it doesn't bother them personally too much....

Franchise added "Home team" and "because he get's bashed here a lot" which I think was very honest of him to admit and I'm sure is an element in many other Rod fans.

I'd have to say I think those 4 attributes mentioned are pretty solid. On a personal note, while I don't really like his game and find those incidents discussed annoying, I have always put a premium on pros giving full effort to improve and compete. So, on the whole I think I"m gonna move my stance from lukewarm disliker to lukewarm supporter!

 

[Datacipher]

Oh and Grant, I appreciate your personal input. I'll take your word for it that Roddick is a good kid off the court. That's not really the issue for me but I'm sincerely glad to hear it. As we all know, sometimes people who grow up in the competitive junior bubble end up with not and entirely healthy mentality, so I'm glad for him if he's doing alright.

 

[VamosRafa]

This is just sad Susan. Your level of reasoning and bias was shown in the last thread. I only participated with you in that because I thought you would have the maturity to discuss the issue but you ducked all logical argument and have revealed yourself to be very close minded and a "fanboy" of the very type you have been condemning.

:?: Why is it sad? This is a tennis discussion board after all. There are things that are truly sad in life, but my decision not to reiterate stuff I have said many times before isn't one of them. My overall feeling about Andy is well known. I have stuck my toe into many Roddick hate threads, and nearly got it chopped off every time. :lol: So anything I said here would have been redundant. And I wasn't in the mood to be redundant.

But it's likely a temporary malady, no worries. :lol:

In the final analysis, however, others, especially Franchise and Chanchai, did an excellent job of explaining what there is to like about Roddick if folks want to hear it. Hats off to them. I couldn't improve on it anyway. :lol:

 

[Datacipher]

This is just sad Susan. Your level of reasoning and bias was shown in the last thread. I only participated with you in that because I thought you would have the maturity to discuss the issue but you ducked all logical argument and have revealed yourself to be very close minded and a "fanboy" of the very type you have been condemning.

:?: Why is it sad? I couldn't improve on it anyway. :lol:

No you obviously could not. You haven't produced anything in the last 2 threads but accusations, and gushing contradictions. Look Susan, you seem like a decent person...but you've got a pretty extreme bias going on here. Instead of even attempting to contribute to this thread you instead chose to make the accusation that this thread was simply to bash Roddick, also implying that it mislead people about it's content and purpose. I think it's clear that none of that is true....if you'd like to apologize, I'd accept...

 

[VamosRafa]

I am not going to apologize for stating my views on an anonymous public forum. Just as I'm not going to ask you or anyone else to apologize for unkind things said about me. It's your right to say what you want; just as it is mine. If they go OTT, TW will delete them. And our comments haven't gotten to that level.

 

[NoBadMojo]

survey sez......
at this moment there were 412 views of the why i like roddick thread w. 25 responses and a whopping 1289 views of the why i hate roddick thread w. 63 replies. i didnt feel like reading much of the threads but alot of the responses to the like roddick thread were actually about 'hate'. the threads were posted only a few minutes apart....draw your own conclusions....Ed

 

[Tennis Guy]

survey sez......
at this moment there were 412 views of the why i like roddick thread w. 25 responses and a whopping 1289 views of the why i hate roddick thread w. 63 replies. i didnt feel like reading much of the threads but alot of the responses to the like roddick thread were actually about 'hate'. the threads were posted only a few minutes apart....draw your own conclusions....Ed

The hate thread was posted first.

 

[Rickson]

Roddick has the biggest serve in the game and he's constantly working on improving his overall game. I don't like Roddick's backhand or his volleying skills, but at the same time, I'm glad to see he's working on improving those aspects of his game.

 

[ElanSafin]

if roddick regularly play his SLAM DUNK overhead, I'll like him more.

whos andys new gfriend?i think mandy looks better.

 

[VamosRafa]

Her name is Lauren Bedford. She's an Elite model. She used to date a pro golfer named Ty.

But she's been with Andy since last March or so.

As for this quote:

The hate thread was posted first.

Yes, but NoBadMojo's point is that folks are more anxious to read hate things about Andy rather than good ones. That's been my experience as well, and I've been kicking around here for quite a while. :mrgreen:

But if folks get wind of the fact that this "like" thread is a "hate" thread, it will definitely become more popular.

 

[Datacipher]

survey sez......
at this moment there were 412 views of the why i like roddick thread w. 25 responses and a whopping 1289 views of the why i hate roddick thread w. 63 replies. i didnt feel like reading much of the threads but alot of the responses to the like roddick thread were actually about 'hate'. the threads were posted only a few minutes apart....draw your own conclusions....Ed

Well Susan is a lost cause as she doesn't respond to any discussion points and continues to reveal her true colors. But you NBM! How can you say you "didn't feel ike reading much" and then say "alot of the responses" were "about 'hate'"

WRONG! I count 3 short posts from non Roddick supporters. You really need to try reading before you make blanket statements. It just makes you look bad.

 

[speedofpain88]

I think his girlfriend now is way hotter than Mandy.

 

[Tennis Guy]

As for this quote:

The hate thread was posted first.

Yes, but NoBadMojo's point is that folks are more anxious to read hate things about Andy rather than good ones. That's been my experience as well, and I've been kicking around here for quite a while. :mrgreen:

But if folks get wind of the fact that this "like" thread is a "hate" thread, it will definitely become more popular.

I know, I just thought I would point it out.

 

[callitout]

am I the only one who's finding the vamosrafa's pics of nadal a little creepy. I mean you like the guy, terrific. But do we really need to see him changing shirts?

 

[rommil]

Yeah. Nadal in those pictures is starting to look like an emoticon too....

 

[frankseven]

I've tried so hard to like him. I want the American to win. I want an American to win that I can identify with. I do not identify with this guy. I don't wish that I could hang out with this guy. If I worked with him, I have a good feeling I wouldn't care for him too much. Every time I watch him play, I end up cheering for the other guy. This never happened with Sampras, Agassi, Courier, Chang, or Becker. All some of my favs. Now Federer and Safin are folks that I just naturally cheer for. I do hope he continues to improve and to challenge Federer. I don't see him giving up. But after Wimbelton and the Canadian Masters, it looks tough. I hope he can figure out a way to play a more competitive match with Federer....

 

[VamosRafa]

No problem, I can change the Nadal photo. I'll use the TW one, which is actually quite good. Just a sec . . . .

And as for:

Well Susan is a lost cause as she doesn't respond to any discussion points.

I'm sure some would say I respond to too many discussion points. :lol: But I respond to the ones I think are worth responding to. Which I guess is what we all practice around here.

But seriously, if you really want to hear all the reasons I like Andy, I could reiterate them here, but it's nothing I haven't said ad nauseum. But I'll reiterate the biggest reason why I like him.

I think Andy is a great guy, and one of the most fan friendly guys on the Tour, and that's something I admire. He's been very nice to me, particularly when I was working on a website for him a couple years ago. And even now he goes out of his way to stop and say hello at tourneys.

For example, at Davis Cup: USA v. FRA, September 2002 (Hard Rock Cafe, Paris, France), Andy came to a party our little group was having, and brought Mardy and James along. That's not something many players would do. Here's a few photos:

Chatting with Andy:

Getting autographs from James and Mardy

Andy talking to one of his biggest fans:

And here's the gang:

So this does help explain a bit of my "bias" about Andy. Hard not to like someone who went out of his way to make the evening a special experience for all of us. :mrgreen: And just think; a few hours before these photos were taken, these guys lost a very disappointing semifinal Davis Cup tie against France. Yet, they spent the evening taking time to thank fans for coming over to support them.

And here's another little story. A website was having a contest to see who could get the best fan photo with Andy. A fan approached Andy about it during an autograph session, and he told her to wait and they would come up with something. They went to the hotel lobby, and she wanted him to make a fish face in front of a fish tank. He thought they could do something better, and he suggested that he do a handstand, and that the three girls hold up his legs, so he wouldn't fall over. Sure enough he did it, and someone's Mom took the photo:

I think it won some type of a prize. As I said before, for a top player to do this much for his fans is very unusual. I just don't get the "punk" comments.

Oh, just remembered. After the photo was taken, Andy said he wanted to see it. And the gal on the far right brought it to the next event, and showed it to Andy, who thought it was very funny. Brad saw it, too, and jokingly yelled at him, saying he could have hurt his serving arm doing handstands in hotel lobbies. :lol:

I guess that's enough Andy worship for the mo. Don't want to overdo it. May cause a riot! :lol:

 

[VashTheStampede]

I think his girlfriend now is way hotter than Mandy.

Yea smurf!!! lol I think shes hotter 2. lucky andy. hehe

 

[hippoti8]

Who's his girlfriend now?

Roddick is a dynamic player. He's fun to watch, he's stylish, and he's a damn good tennis player. I don't absolutely love Andy Roddick, but I do like him a lot. He's kinda the Mac of this generation. Some of you may not agree with that at all, but he's got some similarities to Mac's attitude the way he presents himself. I think if Roddick continues to improve and continues to work hard(stays away from the distractions that have the potential to overcome him), he will be a good player for a long time.

 

[VamosRafa]

I guess NBM isn't the only one who doens't read threads in their entirety. :lol:

Her name is Lauren Bedford. She's a model, etc. And it just so happens that we have photos (of course). There are by Alli from Toronto:

 

[speedofpain88]

Definitely hotter than Mandy, but I've always thought that she looks like a little bit of a **** ... my opinion anyway.

 

[@wright]

It's futile to constantly bash Susan for liking Andy, she obviously has had lots of personal contact with him, and thinks he is a nice, cool guy. Chances are if we'd had the experiences she has, we'd like him too. He seems pretty outgoing and like he would be fun to be around, even if he acts like a pr1ck on court from time to time. I think we all have had friends who we think are cool, but an onlooker might sit there thinking "that guy is the biggest @ss I've ever seen, why do people like him?" All we have are cute little quips at interviews and images of Andy having tantrums, throwing his racquet into the photographer pit, etc., so can we not just accept Susan's point of view(she knows the guy a helluva lot better than any of us) for what it is and realize he's gonna be who he is?

 

[norcal]

I like him for reasons stated earlier in the thread. He is a huge boon to American tennis. Can you imagine USA tennis without him? He is a star, on and off the court and in the US we need a star to compete with all the other stars in all the other sports. AA is about gone then there is a huge dropoff.
I really disliked his on court persona a couple years ago but he controls the 'tude a bit more now and he is so mentally stronger than he was (see his match against the beast the other night...he could have easily not fought back and taken a needed break, ala club fed).
And of course the unmitigated hatred of him makes me like him all the more.
However I do dislike him for hiring someone who can't spell. Roam??? hahahaha

 

[Datacipher]

It's futile to constantly bash Susan for liking Andy, she obviously has had lots of personal contact with him, and thinks he is a nice, cool guy. so can we not just accept Susan's point of view(she knows the guy a helluva lot better than any of us) for what it is and realize he's gonna be who he is?

Wright, I have never bashed Susan for liking Andy. SHE is the one bashing others for disliking Andy. That is clear from the posts. I criticized her unfair bashing of others. Her arguments against their opinions and their right to express those opinions were illogical and emotional. I simply asked her to acknowledge (which of course she will not) that it is her with the problem here which stems from HER personal bias.

I started this thread with sincere curiosity and a lot of Roddick supporters responded in kind and made great points. She is the one who came with prejudice and accusations. The response threads make it pretty clear that most readers can see what happened here. All I would ask of anyone is that they read the WHOLE thread and see how she perverted it.

 

[VamosRafa]

Thanks, Alan. You are very kind, and also very sweet.

But I really don't think anyone was bashing me for liking Andy, at least not lately. And I don't think they were bashing me for being a woman -- something I have dealt with in the past. I think it was more I ruffled a few feathers with things I said, and it needed to be emphasized and re-emphasized that I'm in the wrong. So be it. Just as reasonable minds can differ on things, unreasonable minds can, too. :wink:

But in my defense, I did change the Nadal photo, and gave you guys some pics of Lauren. What more do you want? :lol:

Okay, I'm willing to make further amends. I'll do my best to get some hot shots of Lauren and the Maria(s) at the U.S. Open. :wink:

 

[pound cat]

When all is said and done, I've come to like Roddick not only because he plays pretty good tennis, but also because he's fast on the uptake, funnier than hell, gives very gracious & humourous speeches at the finals. and is always on the cover of the high quality, glossy mags.

 

[dennis1188]

Because he's better than watching that US women's tennis match repeat again.