They should rename the Wimbledon's mens singles trophy the 'Sampras Cup'

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Blocker

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The gentlemens singles final at Wimbledon, the world's most important tennis match, and the trophy that goes to the winner, the world's most important tennis trophy.

Sampras made the final 7 times for 7 wins. Never lost the final, never looked like losing the final such was his dominance, and in all beat a combined 3 separate winners of the event and 5 Wimbledon champions all up. Phenomenal. Remarkable. Unbelievable.

It's about time the trophy was renamed the 'Sampras Cup' or the 'Sampras Trophy' to honour the greatest Wimbledon champion of all time because no one will ever replicate his astonishing feat, to make the final of the world's biggest event at least 7 times and not lose is phenomenal. And it's not just that he never lost, it's the way he went about demolishing his final opponents.

This was all done mind you in an era where dangerous unseeded serve and volleyers lurked at every stage.

Just for the record the women's winner should receive the 'Navratilova Plate'.

That is all.
 
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Dave1982

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Blocker said:
The gentlemens singles final at Wimbledon, the world's most important tennis match, and the trophy that goes to the winner, the world's most important tennis trophy.

Sampras made the final 7 times for 7 wins. Never lost the final, never looked like losing the final such was his dominance, and in all beat a combined 3 separate winners of the event and 5 Wimbledon champions all up. Phenomenal. Remarkable. Unbelievable.

It's about time the trophy was renamed the 'Sampras Cup' or the 'Sampras Trophy' to honour the greatest Wimbledon champion of all time because no one will ever replicate his astonishing feat, to make the final of the world's biggest event at least 7 times and not lose is phenomenal. And it's not just that he never lost, it's the way he went about demolishing his final opponents.

This was all done mind you in an era where dangerous unseeded serve and volleyers lurked at every stage.

Just for the record the women's winner should receive the 'Navratilova Plate'.

That is all.
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Apologies for my naivety but you are taking the pi55 aren't you mate?
 
sbengte

sbengte

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Blocker said:
Sampras made the final 7 times for 7 wins. Never lost the final, never looked like losing the final such was his dominance, and in all beat a combined 3 separate winners of the event and 5 Wimbledon champions all up. Phenomenal. Remarkable. Unbelievable.

It's about time the trophy was renamed the 'Sampras Cup' or the 'Sampras Trophy' to honour the greatest Wimbledon champion of all time because no one will ever replicate his astonishing feat, to make the final of the world's biggest event at least 7 times and not lose is phenomenal. And it's not just that he never lost, it's the way he went about demolishing his final opponents.
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Sorry. Federer not only won 7 times equaling Sampras, but also made the final an additional 3 times at an age when Sampras was either losing to Bastl or had run away from the tour for the fear of losing to Hewitts and Safins and Federers.

Sampras wasn't even good enough to make the final when he wasn't at his best. Case closed.

(If there is a case for a slam trophy being renamed after anyone, it is clearly Nadal. 9 wins and only 2 freaking losses over 11 years is astounding).
 
JohanLiebert

JohanLiebert

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Maybe on a good day, Sampras could take a couple of sets, from Federer. That's how impressive Sampras was. I salute him. He would probably not do it, though. But, I'll give him the benefit of doubt. He did lose to teenage Fed, in a close match. Hence, the question.
 
joekapa

joekapa

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Sampras was the dominant force at Wimbledon. Never lost a final. Back when the grass was fast. Wimbledon after 2003 has slowed down tremendously.

But Sampras's prowess will never be aknowledged at Wimbledon. If you go to their official Facebook page, you would think that he never existed. Every 3rd post has a picture of Federer.
 
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joekapa said:
Sampras was the dominant force at Wimbledon. Never lost a final. Back when the grass was fast. Wimbledon after 2003 has slowed down tremendously.

But Sampras's prowess will never be aknowledged at Wimbledon. If you go to their official Facebook page, you would think that he never existed. Every 3rd post has a picture of Federer.
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He had to compete against strong grass heavyweights in Pioline and Washington. I'm sure Federer would be shaking in his boots if he was in Sampras' situation.
 
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sbengte said:
Sorry. Federer not only won 7 times equaling Sampras, but also made the final an additional 3 times at an age when Sampras was either losing to Bastl or had run away from the tour for the fear of losing to Hewitts and Safins and Federers.

Sampras wasn't even good enough to make the final when he wasn't at his best. Case closed.

(If there is a case for a slam trophy being renamed after anyone, it is clearly Nadal. 9 wins and only 2 freaking losses over 11 years is astounding).
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EPO Cup?
 
MichaelNadal

MichaelNadal

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Blocker said:
The gentlemens singles final at Wimbledon, the world's most important tennis match, and the trophy that goes to the winner, the world's most important tennis trophy.

Sampras made the final 7 times for 7 wins. Never lost the final, never looked like losing the final such was his dominance, and in all beat a combined 3 separate winners of the event and 5 Wimbledon champions all up. Phenomenal. Remarkable. Unbelievable.

It's about time the trophy was renamed the 'Sampras Cup' or the 'Sampras Trophy' to honour the greatest Wimbledon champion of all time because no one will ever replicate his astonishing feat, to make the final of the world's biggest event at least 7 times and not lose is phenomenal. And it's not just that he never lost, it's the way he went about demolishing his final opponents.

This was all done mind you in an era where dangerous unseeded serve and volleyers lurked at every stage.

Just for the record the women's winner should receive the 'Navratilova Plate'.

That is all.
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But it just so happens to be called the Venus rosewater dish :)

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joekapa said:
I suppose Becker, Ivanisavic, Agassi, are second tier players to you.
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- Becker wasn't at his best when Sampras was at his.
- Ivanisevic while being an extremely good player, sadly isn't an ATG.
- Agassi was here and there in the 90's. He was contending more in the early 2000s.
 
joekapa

joekapa

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Sabratha said:
- Becker wasn't at his best when Sampras was at his.
- Ivanisevic while being an extremely good player, sadly isn't an ATG.
- Agassi was here and there in the 90's. He was contending more in the early 2000s.
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Were you a young suckling back then, or did you ever really witness that period ?
 
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The gentleman's singles final at Wimbledon, the world's most important tennis match, and the trophy that goes to the winner, the world's most important tennis trophy.

Federer made the final 10 times for 7 wins. Won five in a row, made seven finals in a row such was his dominance, and has all in all been the most successful there of anyone ever. Phenomenal. Remarkable. Unbelievable.

It's about time the trophy was renamed the 'Federer Cup' or the 'Federer Trophy' to honour the greatest Wimbledon champion of all time because no one will ever replicate his astonishing feat, to make the final of the world's biggest event at least 10 times and not lose in 7 of them is phenomenal. And it's not just that he made the most finals, it's the way he went about demolishing the entire field for years on end to win them.

This was all done mind you in an era of high-level, physical tennis.

Just for the record the women's winner should receive the 'Sampras Plate'.

That is all.
 
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joekapa said:
Were you a young suckling back then, or did you ever really witness that period ?
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I witnessed that period, that's what I saw.. I don't have any unobjective bias. That time period didn't interest me too much -- but I did take note of things like Wimbledon finals and Australian Open finals..
 
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timnz

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Blocker said:
The gentlemens singles final at Wimbledon, the world's most important tennis match, and the trophy that goes to the winner, the world's most important tennis trophy.

Sampras made the final 7 times for 7 wins. Never lost the final, never looked like losing the final such was his dominance, and in all beat a combined 3 separate winners of the event and 5 Wimbledon champions all up. Phenomenal. Remarkable. Unbelievable.

It's about time the trophy was renamed the 'Sampras Cup' or the 'Sampras Trophy' to honour the greatest Wimbledon champion of all time because no one will ever replicate his astonishing feat, to make the final of the world's biggest event at least 7 times and not lose is phenomenal. And it's not just that he never lost, it's the way he went about demolishing his final opponents.

This was all done mind you in an era where dangerous unseeded serve and volleyers lurked at every stage.

Just for the record the women's winner should receive the 'Navratilova Plate'.

That is all.
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You can only view Sampras as having a better record than Federer at Wimbledon if you believe that a semi, a quarter and fourth round platings at Wimbledon combined (Sampras' best 3 placings outside his 7 wins) are better than 3 runner - up placing at Wimbledon. I am sorry, but I just don't believe that they are superior placings.
 
Zoolander

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Blocker said:
The gentlemens singles final at Wimbledon, the world's most important tennis match, and the trophy that goes to the winner, the world's most important tennis trophy.

Sampras made the final 7 times for 7 wins. Never lost the final, never looked like losing the final such was his dominance, and in all beat a combined 3 separate winners of the event and 5 Wimbledon champions all up. Phenomenal. Remarkable. Unbelievable.

It's about time the trophy was renamed the 'Sampras Cup' or the 'Sampras Trophy' to honour the greatest Wimbledon champion of all time because no one will ever replicate his astonishing feat, to make the final of the world's biggest event at least 7 times and not lose is phenomenal. And it's not just that he never lost, it's the way he went about demolishing his final opponents.

This was all done mind you in an era where dangerous unseeded serve and volleyers lurked at every stage.

Just for the record the women's winner should receive the 'Navratilova Plate'.

That is all.
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Well why dont you just marry him and have his baby??

( sorry but thats the only thing i remember from primary school).
 
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Blocker

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Sheesh, some people live in la la land. Federer was having heart attacks against baby non grass experienced Nadal for 2 years in a row before being beaten by him. Then goes and gets beat by Djok two years in a row. Sampras, his last ever pro match presented him with a USIO trophy, you're only as good as your last match. He could and would have gone on to win more Sampras Cups at the All Wimby Club but he was content, unlike Fed who looks like a tortured soul these days.

Sampras haters gonna hate. And you call yourself Americans.
 
mike danny

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Blocker said:
Sheesh, some people live in la la land. Federer was having heart attacks against baby non grass experienced Nadal for 2 years in a row before being beaten by him. Then goes and gets beat by Djok two years in a row. Sampras, his last ever pro match presented him with a USIO trophy, you're only as good as your last match. He could and would have gone on to win more Sampras Cups at the All Wimby Club but he was content, unlike Fed who looks like a tortured soul these days.

Sampras haters gonna hate. And you call yourself Americans.
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What was Sampras doing at 33-34?

And LOL at baby inexperienced Nadal. I guess the new experienced Nadal from 2012+ was a world beater on grass.
 
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yep. no doubt. He even won most of those Wimbledon finals without even getting his serve broken.
 
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joekapa said:
I suppose Becker, Ivanisavic, Agassi, are second tier players to you.
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Compared to Sampras they are at least a tier below according to many. OTOH there are people rating Nadal more highly than Federer. So Federer had a final opponent greater than him according to some opinion whereas Sampras's 'tough' competition was at least one tier below him according to a much greater body of opinion.
 
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Blocker said:
Sheesh, some people live in la la land. Federer was having heart attacks against baby non grass experienced Nadal for 2 years in a row before being beaten by him. Then goes and gets beat by Djok two years in a row. Sampras, his last ever pro match presented him with a USIO trophy, you're only as good as your last match. He could and would have gone on to win more Sampras Cups at the All Wimby Club but he was content, unlike Fed who looks like a tortured soul these days.
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Yet here Roger is, making slam finals at an age when Pete was sitting on a couch.
Also he had no bad losses there while prime.

Federer > Sampras on all surfaces.


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Sampras haters gonna hate.
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Says the guy making silly threads just to p00p on Federer and pump up your man-crush. :)
 
Russeljones

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sbengte said:
Sorry. Federer not only won 7 times equaling Sampras, but also made the final an additional 3 times at an age when Sampras was either losing to Bastl or had run away from the tour for the fear of losing to Hewitts and Safins and Federers.

Sampras wasn't even good enough to make the final when he wasn't at his best. Case closed.

(If there is a case for a slam trophy being renamed after anyone, it is clearly Nadal. 9 wins and only 2 freaking losses over 11 years is astounding).
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Bringing Federer's age into it does nothing when he lost to Stak and particularly to Tsonga from 2 sets up. This is a flame bait thread, don't take the bait.
 
TommyA8X

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Remember when Federer and Sampras played those exhibitions at the end of 2007? Federer is now approaching Pete's age at those exhibitions and is still world no3 and a multiple slam finalist :p
 
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jga111

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sbengte said:
Sorry. Federer not only won 7 times equaling Sampras, but also made the final an additional 3 times at an age when Sampras was either losing to Bastl or had run away from the tour for the fear of losing to Hewitts and Safins and Federers.

Sampras wasn't even good enough to make the final when he wasn't at his best. Case closed.

(If there is a case for a slam trophy being renamed after anyone, it is clearly Nadal. 9 wins and only 2 freaking losses over 11 years is astounding).
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So Federer made an additional 3 finals. Excellent. How did he do in those?
 
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jga111

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TommyA8X said:
Remember when Federer and Sampras played those exhibitions at the end of 2007? Federer is now approaching Pete's age at those exhibitions and is still world no3 and a multiple slam finalist :p
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Sampras has Greek blood - he wants to chill, nothing wrong with that! :)
 
Unforgiven79

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I do not agree.
I would instead name the cup the "Pat Cash Trophy"
No other gentlemen's winner may be so uniquely identified with this tournament - all the others have unfortunately won something else in their careers.
 
The Fedfather

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jga111 said:
So Federer made an additional 3 finals. Excellent. How did he do in those?
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Wimbledon 2008 final by many is considered to be the greatest tennis match in history. The 2014 match went to 5. Then the 2015 final was a big disappointment because Federer didn't play nearly as good as he did in the SF, he still won a set though. But that doesn't impress you that much, does it? I'm sure you can name a bunch of people who did better. Oh wait...
 
Unforgiven79

Unforgiven79

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Or the "Ivan Lendl Trophy".
OK, he actually never won it, but he made his statement by skipping Roland Garros to focus on Wimbledon.
("Who cares about the French Slam crap, I want the English silver!")

The Queen should have knighted him.
 
70後

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Unforgiven79 said:
Or the "Ivan Lendl Trophy".
OK, he actually never won it, but he made his statement by skipping Roland Garros to focus on Wimbledon.
("Who cares about the French Slam crap, I want the English silver!")

The Queen should have knighted him.
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A grave, grave mistake by Lendl, in retrospect.

I always believed he should have focussed on French. Wim wasn't his best. Yet he tried to force himself to play his worst game mode, serve volley, against the best serve volleyers of the time. Bad error. Even after 89 disaster.There were at least a couple of years of a field he could have bested. For example, Gomez he could always beat. If he was in good shape as he still was in the early 90's, he could beat Courier too.

A Lendl with 10 slams will be a different thing in history.

One man's Holy Grail, is another man's plain old dinner plate. :p
 
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The Fedfather said:
Wimbledon 2008 final by many is considered to be the greatest tennis match in history. The 2014 match went to 5. Then the 2015 final was a big disappointment because Federer didn't play nearly as good as he did in the SF, he still won a set though. But that doesn't impress you that much, does it? I'm sure you can name a bunch of people who did better. Oh wait...
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Are you British? There is nothing quite like giving such praise in defeat :)
 
Fiero425

Fiero425

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I've done this for all the tourneys; suggested them being renamed to their most prolific winner:

- http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...-slam-trophy-name-change.540905/#post-9912078 -

- http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=737 -

Who Owns Each Slam - Trophy Name Change?
Who owns each Major, worth changing the name of the trophy because of their dominance? Who do you think should have the honor and why? (Off the top of my head)

Australian Open for the men is owned by Novak "Nole" Djokovic: Not only winning 6 so far, but taking 3 straight! No one's done that in the Open era!

For the ladies, I guess you should give it to Margaret Smith Court, but for many years, the top players in the world didn't even bother going "down under" so she picked up an easy 11 titles with a huge psychological edge over Evonne Goolagong!
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French Open was owned by Bjorn Borg since the 80's with 6 titles, but Rafa Nadal has overtaken him with 9 titles

For the Ladies, Chris Evert is Queen of clay with 7 titles!
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Wimbledon had Bjorn Borg as the apparent King, but Roger Federer not only took 5 straight, he has 2 more titles to have a total of 7!

Without a doubt Martina Navratilova reigns supreme on grass taking 9 singles titles: 5 straight ('82-'87) often without losing a set!
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US Open had several dominant figures with McEnroe, Connors winning on 3 surfaces, and Lendl getting to 8 straight finals, but again Roger Federer dominated with 5 straight titles! This is why he's the GOAT with 1 FO & 4 AO's!

I guess you have to rename the trophy to Chris Evert due to her winning 6 titles on 2 surfaces: 3 on clay and 3 on HC!
 
Unforgiven79

Unforgiven79

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Counting Slams does not stimulate the audience imagination.
Aus Open M ---> Rod Laver Trophy, assigned after a final held at the Rod Laver Arena, with Rod Laver attending (that does a little justice to 2x YGS)
Aus Open F ---> Martina Hingis Trophy, because she won it, she bloomed there, and she was the last female before the tanks arrived
Aus Open J ---> Novak Djokovic Cup, becuse he dominated and is younger than Laver

RG M --> Rafael Nadal Trophy (2 defeats in 11 yrs, is not English, and the French do not like boring playing styles like Borg's)
RG F --> Suzanne Lenglen Plate (girls, if you can earn your living as tennis pro's, remember about Suzanne)

Wimbledon M --> Fred Perry Cup (Sampras and Tilden are American, Federer only if he wins it again at 35)
Wimbledon F --> Lambert Chambers Plate (give it a touch of Edwardian age)
Wimbledon J --> Diego Nargiso Cup ("boys, keep in mind you may still go nowhere with your adult career!")

US Open M --> Bill Tilden Trophy (gracious, and with him US have something to apologize for)
US Open F --> Serena Williams Trophy (a lone star in the US tennis sky)
US Open J --> John McEnroe Cup (THE brat)
 
metsman

metsman

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It should be renamed the DjokoCup as Djoker has defeated peak Federer there multiple times and peak nadal as well. And Federer beat Hewitt who beat Sampras on grass who beat Becker who beat Lendl who beat Mcenroe who beat Borg who beat Connors so by the transitive property Djokovic is greater than all those fools as well.
 
Unforgiven79

Unforgiven79

Rookie
Ok, then finally it should be named Murray Cup since Murray defeated peak Djokovic.
He had been defeated by Federer, but that was before and, however, it would generate a deadloop.
 
tennis_pro

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I wonder if Sampras would win every Wimbledon final if he faced someone like Federer in the 2004 and 2005 editions, cause that's exactly why Federer has a couple of losses there - playing in finals at the age of 33-34 against someone like peak Djokovic.
 
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mattosgrant

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This thread is just invitation for a Federer-Sampras debate with the ubers relentlessly attacking the other, and the others favorite player. Which is fine I guess, as atleast that is a step up from the 1000th Djokovic-Federer debate of the last 2 weeks.
 
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