Why not, it always works for me.I play with 2009 Prince Rebels which are 18x20. I want to use hybrid stringing but, 20 feet is too short to string the mains. How do you do this without wasting the rest of the string?
Perhaps because we don't use the same machine. There is not enough string to go around the gripper. You have never found 20 feet of string too short to string the mains on a racquet or has this never happened to you. If that's the case why do hybrid string sets always come with 22 feet of mains?Why not, it always works for me.
I play with 2009 Prince Rebels which are 18x20. I want to use hybrid stringing but, 20 feet is too short to string the mains. How do you do this without wasting the rest of the string?
Why not, it always works for me.
Perhaps because we don't use the same machine. There is not enough string to go around the gripper. You have never found 20 feet of string too short to string the mains on a racquet or has this never happened to you. If that's the case why do hybrid string sets always come with 22 feet of mains?
If I were using your machine I would not have a problem. Hybrid strings usually come in 22 foot lengths because some people, some times need longer string because of the type racket they are stringing or because of the type of string or both. What seems to be your problem other than the fact that you may have cut the string in half before you actually knew how much string you needed? BTW just because a set of string says it is 40' long does not mean it is some sets are shorter and some are longer. I'm just trying to understand your problem.Perhaps because we don't use the same machine. There is not enough string to go around the gripper. You have never found 20 feet of string too short to string the mains on a racquet or has this never happened to you. If that's the case why do hybrid string sets always come with 22 feet of mains?
Perhaps because we don't use the same machine. There is not enough string to go around the gripper. You have never found 20 feet of string too short to string the mains on a racquet or has this never happened to you. If that's the case why do hybrid string sets always come with 22 feet of mains?
Also when the frame is mounted so the throat is closer to the tensioner you need less string if you don't have a starting clamp but I think the OP is looking to keep us guessing. I have a couple of 18x20 mid plus rackets and I can easily string them 2 piece with 36' of string.You're absolutely correct in everything you've said here.
However, that conversation isn't really finding a solution for you.
Closer to being a debate.
Do you want a debate, or do you want an actual solution?
Before you can arrive at a destination, you first have to know how you're going to get there.
So...
Would you like to answer the 5 questions that I posed, and actually make some headway on this, or would you prefer to keep spinning your wheels - getting no closer to a formalized plan of action?
Help yourself by providing additional info.
Hard to help someone whole doesn't appear to help their own cause.
New alert - string stretches. But different types of string stretch differently that was @Wes's question #4 above. But I don't think you're looking for an answer.Just to set the record straight, I took out a tape measure and measured the length of all of the 18 main strings from the outside of the frame. This was 18.65 feet. I then measured the distance of the arc at the top of the frame from the main #1 to main #9 which was 9 inches and measured the bottom arc which measured 10 inches. Because you can't count the width twice, I used 10 inches instead of 9. This resulted in a total string length in the racquet of 19.5 feet. This leaves 6 total inches or 3 inches on each side to pull and to stick into the tie off hole and tie off. From this I conclude that I cannot use a 40 foot piece of string for stringing two set of mains in a hybrid setup in this racquet.
Just to set the record straight, I took out a tape measure and measured the length of all of the 18 main strings from the outside of the frame. This was 18.65 feet. I then measured the distance of the arc at the top of the frame from the main #1 to main #9 which was 9 inches and measured the bottom arc which measured 10 inches. Because you can't count the width twice, I used 10 inches instead of 9. This resulted in a total string length in the racquet of 19.5 feet. This leaves 6 total inches or 3 inches on each side to pull and to stick into the tie off hole and tie off. From this I conclude that I cannot use a 40 foot piece of string for stringing two set of mains in a hybrid setup in this racquet.
There is another solution. You can string all but the outside mains using your string. Then you can string the two outside mains using your cross string. I've done this before. So you'd start your outside main at the top, string the bottom cross, then the other outside main, then come down. You'd need to make sure your weave is right.
Sounds like a good idea until you start stringing two mains and 20 crosses with another half set of string. Back in an earlier post the OP said he needed 18 feet of string to string the crosses and now you're adding more. Also you're going to have three tie offs now where there used to be only one at the head, two mains and one end of the the string used for the crosses. Assuming the OP is never going to give us any information on what the real problem is the best solution for him is just buy reels and he can cut off what he needs. One reel can be used for 30 String jobs using 22' at a time.Good idea!
This is almost similar to Universal ATW one piece stringing.
Good idea!
This is almost similar to Universal ATW one piece stringing.
I didn't have to think of it, it was already mentioned in post #2.Thanks, I've done it plenty of times without any problem. Some people just like to crap on anything that they didn't think of.
You also need to make sure you start with the outer main that is opposite the tie off grommet on the top of the racket or it won't work. Not to mention the fact that the tie grommet is on the eight main that you will be finishing up with so you cant use the normal tie off at the top at all therefore you will have to open up three grommets for tie off holes at the top. If you have any problems contact rabbit he does it all the time with no problem.There is another solution. You can string all but the outside mains using your string. Then you can string the two outside mains using your cross string. I've done this before. So you'd start your outside main at the top, string the bottom cross, then the other outside main, then come down. You'd need to make sure your weave is right.
If I were using your machine I would not have a problem. Hybrid strings usually come in 22 foot lengths because some people, some times need longer string because of the type racket they are stringing or because of the type of string or both. What seems to be your problem other than the fact that you may have cut the string in half before you actually knew how much string you needed? BTW just because a set of string says it is 40' long does not mean it is some sets are shorter and some are longer. I'm just trying to understand your problem.
EDIT: ^^@eelhc well done. kind of hard to give someone a solution if you don't know the problem.
EDIT: Also @McLovin's solution works most of the time.
If I were stringing with any machine that used flying clamps I wouldn't string without a starting clamp. How do you start crosses and clamp it without a starting clamp and get tension on the top and second cross? IMO the best solution is a starting clamp AND a reel. When you start stringing an EXO3 frame and get the crosses started the wrong way sooner or later you find out something is terribly wrong.I have a similar issue with my Graphene Speed Pros when stringing on my X-2. I would think stringers with rotational grippers like that would require more string length than an electric or crank tensioner.
If that is the case, only a starting clamp or reel would be a solution imo.
You also need to make sure you start with the outer main that is opposite the tie off grommet on the top of the racket or it won't work. Not to mention the fact that the tie grommet is on the eight main that you will be finishing up with so you cant use the normal tie off at the top at all therefore you will have to open up three grommets for tie off holes at the top. If you have any problems contact rabbit he does it all the time with no problem.
If I were you @DE19702 I would try it with some junk string first just to see if there is a problem for you.
Perhaps, if we asked you what time it is, you might regale us with the tale of how the watch had been invented.Just to set the record straight, I took out a tape measure and measured the length of all of the 18 main strings from the outside of the frame. This was 18.65 feet. I then measured the distance of the arc at the top of the frame from the main #1 to main #9 which was 9 inches and measured the bottom arc which measured 10 inches. Because you can't count the width twice, I used 10 inches instead of 9. This resulted in a total string length in the racquet of 19.5 feet. This leaves 6 total inches or 3 inches on each side to pull and to stick into the tie off hole and tie off. From this I conclude that I cannot use a 40 foot piece of string for stringing two set of mains in a hybrid setup in this racquet.
Umm... many of us have... and we are trying to help you. However, it seems quite clear that you don't actually want to listen to those who possess the very experience you speak of.If anyone actually has experience stringing a 2009 Prince Rebel 95 please chime in.
Yeah, that would be a fair assumption... if all grippers (linear or rotational) were the same distance from the mounted racquet... but that isn't the case.I would think stringers with rotational grippers like that would require more string length than an electric or crank tensioner.
Not necessarily. Those aren't the only solutions. There are other methods/solutions.If that is the case, only a starting clamp or reel would be a solution imo.