Can Anderson win a slam in 2019?
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Atennisone
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I want him to, he is one of my favourite players but I'm not sure why. He does play some nice tennis, but not that interesting, and I also usually don't like chokers. Anyway I like this one, and I don't think he will, mostly according to his US Open 2018 loss to Thiem and Australian Open 2018 loss to Edmund.
BeatlesFan
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Anderson has shown quite obviously that his chances of winning a slam were minuscule even in his peak physical years. So why would he suddenly burst forth at 33 to win one? He'll be 33 when 3/4 slams are contested in 2019. I'm sure someone will mention Stan's late career success, but Stan wasn't a choker and Anderson clearly is.
Atennisone
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Age is different for servers. Isner also just becomes better and better. For a server 34 is maybe the peak age. Federer's game is based a bigger part in his play style, that's one of the reasons why he still is so good, (I'm not saying the only one). For Nadal's play style he should be best, 19-29 age. For Federe's style of play, probably 25-35.
Atennisone
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He has been, Stan, Stan choked incredibly much this year. At FO, WB (incredibly much), UO (that tiebreak in set 1)
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All the big hitters are dangerous. It's all about whether they can mentally string it together. After witnessing how KA performed at the Laver Cup, I'm convinced his mental strength is inversely proportional to his height.
So count that as a no.
So count that as a no.
Atennisone
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It's more like FO. A heartbreaking match, I really feel bad for Anderson.
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Atennisone
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He has been so close, so often. He'll win it if he came back (if he did it when Big 4 retired, he would)
True Fanerer
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He's capable if everything falls into place. I expect to see him in a SF this year.
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Polite version of what I said.
True Fanerer
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I tend to be nice to the underdogs
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Mainad
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Suspect he'd much rather come back and win Wimbledon where he actually made several finals.
Rosstour
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The phrase "from strength to strength" applies here, he has got close and has started to beat the best players in the game.
At this point there isn't a player on the tour who doesn't need some luck to win a Slam. He's one of them. No reason he couldn't finally break through this year, maybe at the USO when the Big 3 are running on fumes.
At this point there isn't a player on the tour who doesn't need some luck to win a Slam. He's one of them. No reason he couldn't finally break through this year, maybe at the USO when the Big 3 are running on fumes.
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Only if others do all the heavy lifting and beat the big guns through upsets or injuries. There is no way he will beat two big guns in the same tournament.
MeatTornado
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Except Novak.
MichaelNadal
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Red Rick
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You're probably right. He'd probably lose to Thiem 2nd round at RG, realise he's never seen anything like Thiem in his life, which will then be the lesson he needed to win Wimbledon.
Red Rick
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But really.
Which Anderson are we talking about?
The one who was literally 25th in %games won on HC this year and never made the top 10
The one who was 30th in %games won on grass this year and who broke 53% once for a 25th spot?
Seriously.
Kevin Anderson is nothing but a servebot and an absolute vulture of weak draws. Him being top 10 is a symptom of tennis' disease, he doesn't belong in the top 20, and the simple fact that he has the most Slam finals bar 5 players on Tour is absolutely disgusting
Which Anderson are we talking about?
The one who was literally 25th in %games won on HC this year and never made the top 10
The one who was 30th in %games won on grass this year and who broke 53% once for a 25th spot?
Seriously.
Kevin Anderson is nothing but a servebot and an absolute vulture of weak draws. Him being top 10 is a symptom of tennis' disease, he doesn't belong in the top 20, and the simple fact that he has the most Slam finals bar 5 players on Tour is absolutely disgusting
TripleATeam
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No. He won't win any slams in his whole career.
Im(moral) Winner
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He'll win The Grand Slam
Red Rick
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If people got sick of my suicide jokes already, they'll be in for a treat if that happens
Im(moral) Winner
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AO final against Novak
RG final against RAFA
Wimbledon final against Fraud
USO final maybe against Andy
bjk
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Anderson is older than Querrey but also started out as the lesser player. I think they played a final in Las Vegas won by Querrey. Now ten years later and Anderson is the much better player, really a testament to his work ethic and ability to come back from some epic chokes, for instance against Djokovic in Cincinnati.
George Turner
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6. I believe you may have left out Cilic
Anderson has more slam finals than Berdych, Ferrer, Tsonga, Dimitrov, Raonic, Nishikori, Nalbandian, Davydenko, Haas, Gonzalez and Rios.
Just think about that
Red Rick
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Damn, you're right. I forgot about Red Hot Cilic Peppers. I actually respect him a little.6. I believe you may have left out Cilic
Anderson has more slam finals than Berdych, Ferrer, Tsonga, Dimitrov, Raonic, Nishikori, Nalbandian, Davydenko, Haas, Gonzalez and Rios.
Just think about that
tennis_pro
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I actually think that he can. Needs luck with the draw, though.
Im(moral) Winner
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I wasn't sure if you counted Andy and Stan as active
Delpo has as many as Kevin
Rosstour
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Not sure I agree there, Novak's matches with Fed this year were very close.
And this year will be tougher than the last. He's a year older and the young guys are getting closer and closer.
He isn't going to be straight-setting Khachanov anymore, and if he meets more than one of the group Zverev/Tsitsipas/Coric on the way to a Final, or in the Final, that could be too much for him.
His USO draw was an even bigger joke.
Fucsovics, Sandgren, Gasquet, Sousa, Millman, Knish, DelPigeon. Not one real threat there.
Sport
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Except Nadal at RG*.
MeatTornado
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If Novak had to play seeds 2 thru 8 over Bo5 in Australia, I wouldn't blink an eye if he won the tournament. I would be truly shocked if Zverev/Tsitsipas/Coric/Khachanov actually beat him at a slam. But I'd love to be proven wrong.
And the Nole/Fed Cincy match was not close (only in scoreline). The Paris match was exceptional, but Novak was clearly sick. What would have been a tough draw in NY? Fucsovics and Sandgren actually gave him a good fight, considering it was the early rounds.
MeatTornado
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We'll see. He really struggled to stay healthy in 2018 and his clay form was actually unimpressive by his standards. He needed a bit of luck to win Rome and looked shockingly vulnerable at times the first week in Paris.
If Novak carries his 2nd-half 2018 form to clay in 2019 and Rafa brings the same form we saw last year, he might need just a little bit of luck to get past him. Crazy as that is to say.
Sport
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Nadal destroyed Thiem and displayed his usual level in the final. Anyhow, I don't get your logic.
If Nadal beats Djokovic in a close match at RG 2019, then he has needed luck.
If Djokovic beats Nadal in an extremelly close match which could have gone either way at Wimbledon 2018, then he didn't need luck.
Double standard too much?
MeatTornado
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The original post was "At this point there isn't a player on the tour who doesn't need some luck to win a Slam."
I'm talking about Novak now, not 6 months ago at Wimbledon. Of course he needed a little luck to squeak past Nadal over 2 days and regain his place at the top. But heading into January 2019 for the AO, we're in a much different place. Nadal hasn't played in 4 months. Federer looks a shell of himself from a year ago. Andy and Stan are still MIA. The young guys still can't be trusted in Bo5. Novak's the best player on the planet by a mile, and I think he would win regardless of draw or circumstances right now.
Sport
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I respectfully disagree. Djokovic has never been so dominant at the AO as Nadal at RG. 6 < 11. So I don't see how Djokovic doesn't need luck while Nadal needs luck.
Unless your argument is that Federer and Nadal are in very bad shape right now (Federer is old and Nadal comes from a long period of inactivity) and thus nobody can stop Djokovic. While Djokovic could be in top form for RG. But then again Nadal could be in top form for WB/USO and so Djokovic would need a bit of luck.
MeatTornado
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The 2nd point is my argument precisely.
I'm strictly dealing the with the reality in front of on December 29th, 2018, not hypotheticals 6 months from now. Otherwise along with "Nadal could be in top form for WB/USO" I could also throw in "Federer could regain his 2017 groundgame," "Zverev could get over his Bo5 problems," "Anderson could stop choking," etc.
Sport
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Do you think Anderson choke? I think he is achieving the most he can. Which is a lot. He is a solid top 5 player who has played 2 GS finals in the last 2 years. Even at RG he was close to defeat Schwartzmann, which illustrates he has a relatively solid baseline game to be that tall.
Cilic chokes, okey. But Anderson?
MeatTornado
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Not particularly, just an example off the top of my head, figured it was appropriate since technically this is the Kandy thread.
maratha_warrior
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Anderson needs to get lucky and avoid Big 3 in Slam final , to win finally.
Just like Roddick won a Slam versus Ferrero .
It is possible, and Anderson is a humble hardworking person..
He must keep trying.
Just like Roddick won a Slam versus Ferrero .
It is possible, and Anderson is a humble hardworking person..
He must keep trying.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Excellent comment. Anderson destroyed a clay specialist like Carreño Busta in the USO SF. If he hadn't faced Nadal (or Djokovic or Federer) in the final, he would have had serious chances to win the US Open. Andy Roddick won his one and only US Open by defeating in the final Ferrero, a clay specialist.
With that being said, Roddick has shown better results than Anderson. Anderson only has 2 Slam finals, while Roddick has 5. In addition, Roddick played a long 5 sets Wimbledon final against peak 27 years old Federer.
HetTheGreaterer
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7 players
Big 3 + andy + stan + cilic + delpo
Badabing888
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It's possible but unlikely.
