NBA 2018-19: Dynasty Season 5; Can The Carrington Warriors Defend???

T1000

Legend
He is unreal but is he the MVP?

He’s one of the four favorites to win it right now with lebron giannas ad being the other three. Then a tier below but not out of it I’d say in no order kawhai embiid curry Durant pg and jokic have a chance if they have a strong second half.

If I had to rank likeliest to win out of those ten id probably go
Harden
Giannas
Lebron
AD
Kawhai
Jokic
Embiid
Durant
Curry
PG
 

clout

Hall of Fame
Despite the incredible greatness of Kawhi Leonard, who is a top 3-5 player in this league, MVP/DPOY candidate and the best two-way perimeter player since Pippen, the remainder of the Raptors core continue to be walking choke hazards in big matches. Kyle Lowry, along with Demar, are honestly the two worst big game players I've ever seen in my life and the moment people actually play good defense on them, they can't buy a single shot. I wouldn't be surprised if the Raps traded Lowry at the deadline as they already got rid of one choker in DD and it's done them wonders so far

As for the Celtics, whenever I look at their roster, I'm constantly asking myself how this team isn't the runaway second favs for the title behind GSW. They literally have TWO starting lineups on their roster and Kyrie continues to prove himself of being one of the best closers the game has ever seen
 

T1000

Legend
Back to back 50 point games 40 in 9 of his last 12. This streak is unreal

Sean marks should win executive of the year Brooklyn is playing well and they have a decent team somehow after gifting all their picks to Boston
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Back to back 50 point games 40 in 9 of his last 12. This streak is unreal

Sean marks should win executive of the year Brooklyn is playing well and they have a decent team somehow after gifting all their picks to Boston
Harden standing tall as Wilt the Stilt after two 55+ games in a row. Ole' Anderson deefence
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Boogie Nights begin for GSW...fouls out in 15 minutes but not before a 15/6/3/1/1 with 3 of 4 treys as a contribution to a blowout win in The Clip Joint.

With the first Warrior center since Anthony Tolliver in 2010 to make three treys in a game, this is like a supercharged Lamborghini now.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
GSW wins their eighth in a row, an NBA longest streak this season, and dime to death hosts Wizards with 34 dishes to win 126-118. It is their fifth consecutive game with 30+ assists so, yes, there is enough ball to go around with a 5-Allstar lineup.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Houston explodes their retrorockets for 70 in the first half but The Beard was held in check with just 13. Tucker and Gordon led the way and The Manimal looks sharp in his work around the rim. The Dinos fought back from 20 down to trail by 9.
 

donquijote

G.O.A.T.
Kawhi misses yet another game winner/tier and I am sick of it. He has no clue on what he should be doing. What was it they had brought this guy for?
 

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G.O.A.T.
Kawhi misses yet another game winner/tier and I am sick of it. He has no clue on what he should be doing. What was it they had brought this guy for?


Can you or anyone else explain to me what's going on with Kawhi and his health, mental and "physical"? I'm somewhat confused.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Luka goes 32/8/8 in the Mavs 106-101 win at home vs Detroit. The win keeps Dallas in contact with the 8-team pack that fights for the bottom half of the WC draw. Dallas sits in 12th but just six games back of #5 Houston..
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Luka goes 32/8/8 in the Mavs 106-101 win at home vs Detroit. The win keeps Dallas in contact with the 8-team pack that fights for the bottom half of the WC draw. Dallas sits in 12th but just six games back of #5 Houston..
Doncic has the green light in Dallas. Handles the ball like a point guard.
 

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G.O.A.T.
Can someone explain what roughly happened with Oladipo? Sorry, but I don't want to watch the video footage....

Would be grateful.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
GSW keeps the streak alive with a tight win in Boston with nice defense down the stretch, 115-111.

Boogie keeps up his recovery with a 15/8/3/3/1 line in 23 minutes. The Big Triangle combined for 78 points to edge Boston’s trio of Irving/Tatum/Horford by the 4 point deciding margin
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Can someone explain what roughly happened with Oladipo? Sorry, but I don't want to watch the video footage....

Would be grateful.
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clout

Hall of Fame
Kawhi misses yet another game winner/tier and I am sick of it. He has no clue on what he should be doing. What was it they had brought this guy for?
He’s the only reason why the raps had a chance in this game. The guys a superstar in this league and is elite on BOTH ends of the court. Blame that bum in Kyle Lowry who can never show up for big matches. I hope they get rid of him soon just like they did with derozan. These two make Cilic look like a clutch performer....
 

donquijote

G.O.A.T.
He’s the only reason why the raps had a chance in this game. The guys a superstar in this league and is elite on BOTH ends of the court. Blame that bum in Kyle Lowry who can never show up for big matches. I hope they get rid of him soon just like they did with derozan. These two make Cilic look like a clutch performer....
Lol they were better last year with that DeRozan even though Siakam was just warming up, Ibaka was terrible, Vanfleet was not at this level and I can keep going on. What Kawhi brings to the team is very questionable if he's not winning any game at the clutch.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
Lol they were better last year with that DeRozan even though Siakam was just warming up, Ibaka was terrible, Vanfleet was not at this level and I can keep going on. What Kawhi brings to the team is very questionable if he's not winning any game at the clutch.
Lol if you can see how much of an upgrade Kawhi is to the Raps then idek what to say. Both Derozan and Lowry have literally been BENCHED in the PLAYOFFS before and other players/teams around the league actually view the Raptors as a legitimate threat now, which was never the case when DeFrozen (i mean derozan) was here. Leonard does pretty much everything better than Demar in the game of basketball. Kawhi shoots better, is way more efficient, plays DPOY caliber defense, has an elite scoring ability, is better rebounder, postseason performer and an MVP candidate.

As for the "other" players, Lowry stinks in big games, Miles sucks, Wright is average asf, so is Powell, Vanvleet is hella reckless, and JV and OG have been on the shelf more than they've been playing. This team has hardly been healthy this year but when they are later in the season, that's when you'll see how much better they are with Leonard instead of basketball's version of Verdasco in DD
 
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donquijote

G.O.A.T.
Lol if you can see how much of an upgrade Kawhi brings to the Raps then idek what to say. Players/teams around the league actually view the Raptors as a legitimate threat now, which was never the case when Defrozen (i mean derozan) was here.

As for the "other" players, Lowry stinks in big games, Miles sucks, Wright is average asf, so is Powell, Vanvleet is hella reckless, and JV and OG have been on the shelf more than they've been playing. This team has hardly been healthy this year but when they are later in the season, that's when you'll see how much better they are with Leonard instead of basketball's version of Verdasco and Berdych.
The only reason they think Raps are/were a contender at the middle of first half is because LeBron is out of East and GSW sucked and had issues. Raps are second in the East thanks to Siakam and Ibaka. Kawhi is good but worse than last years DeRozan. He could not make a single game winner. He will just cruise the first round and leave in summer. Also Ujiri is a fool for not going right at Buldenhozer who is apparently a fantastic coach not to risk his job maybe. But he won't be around when you'd be willing to have the old Lowry still.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I think both Toronto and SA are better off from the trade. Unfortunately the unrelated injury to Murray has kept the Spurs from being a top 4 WC seed as we near the break. With the next 4 at home vs 3 non-playoff teams and BKN, they could be top 4 with skids by OKC and/or PTB.

The unmentioned asset in the trade has been steadily productive. Danny Green has played 49 of 51 games while Leonard continues to be babied (37 games) and he adds solid veteran leadership in his 29 minutes each night.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
The only reason they think Raps are/were a contender at the middle of first half is because LeBron is out of East and GSW sucked and had issues. Raps are second in the East thanks to Siakam and Ibaka. Kawhi is good but worse than last years DeRozan. He could not make a single game winner. He will just cruise the first round and leave in summer. Also Ujiri is a fool for not going right at Buldenhozer who is apparently a fantastic coach not to risk his job maybe. But he won't be around when you'd be willing to have the old Lowry still.
Kawhi is wayyyy better than Dero ever was LOL

Stats (2018/19 Kawhi vs 2017/18 Derozan):
PPG: 27.8-23.0 Kawhi
RPG: 7.9-3.9 Kawhi
APG: 5.2-3.2 Derozan
SPG: 2.0-1.1 Kawhi
BPG: 0.5-0.3 Kawhi
FG%: 51%-46% Kawhi
FT%: 86%-82% Kawhi
3P%: 37%-31% Kawhi
PER: 27.3-21.0 Kawhi
TS%: 62%-54% Kawhi
Win Shares/48: .238-.170 Kawhi
VORP: 2.6-2.6 Tie (despite it only being halfway through the year)
Box +/-: 5.9-1.8 Kawhi

Accolades (career-wise):
Rings: 1-0 Kawhi
Finals MVP: 1-0 Kawhi
DPOY: 2-0 Kawhi
Top 3 MVP Finishes: 2-0 Kawhi
All-NBA First Teams: 2-0 Kawhi
All-NBA Teams: 2-2 Tie (Derozan's peak was a 2nd team appearance)
All-NBA Defensive First Teams: 3-0 Kawhi
All-NBA Defensive Teams: 4-0 Kawhi
Steals Leader: 1-0 Kawhi

Kawhi is arguably the best two-way player in the game right now, and is known for being a beast come playoff time; Derozan is the opposite. His game's extremely one-dimensional, and it's been repeatedly exposed in the postseason/big matches. The fact that some Raps fans actually think Leonard is a downgrade from Derozan is just beyond cringey
 
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donquijote

G.O.A.T.
That's the Kawhi you remember from 2014 He is not the same player. Having better stats than teammates or DeRozan doesn't prove anything. Last years regular season DeRozan was better for the team play. Main reason for their 2nd position in the East is not Kawhi. He is a good player for sure but not that superstar anymore.
 

donquijote

G.O.A.T.
Toronto Raptors
2017-18 regular season
Offensive efficiency: 3rd in NBA
Defensive efficiency: 5th in NBA
2018-19 (so far)
OE: 7th
DE: 6th
 

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G.O.A.T.
WHOA.

AD actually HAS requested a trade.

Well, by proxy through Rich Paul. Let's see how this develops...
 

T1000

Legend
On/off
2018/2019 Leonard +5.7
2017/2018 DeRozan-2.7

Offensive efficiency (team) 2017/2018 vs 2018/2019
1.100 vs 1.094
1.036 vs 1.042

So Leonard has a 7 point lead in on/off but DeRozan is better because his team has a 6/1000th point advantage in team offensive and defensive efficiency? Not to mention all the metrics @clout posted where Leonard is better in every single category except for a tie in VORP and 2 less assists per game. You can’t make this stuff up
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
WHOA.

AD actually HAS requested a trade.

Well, by proxy through Rich Paul. Let's see how this develops...
NID he was going to be a LAbronker...Klutch basically bought LAL once LBJ made The Decision 3.0.

Nice parlay of a career for Rich Paul from a chance encounter with young LBJ at an airport when Paul was selling throwback jerseys.
 

Vcore89

Talk Tennis Guru
NID he was going to be a LAbronker...Klutch basically bought LAL once LBJ made The Decision 3.0.

Nice parlay of a career for Rich Paul from a chance encounter with young LBJ at an airport when Paul was selling throwback jerseys.
Melo ''Syracuse Orange'' Yelo can be provided on the cheap . . . will it happen?
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Trae Young says Luka Doncic trade 'worked out for both teams'
LOL
I saw him and Collins on The Jump and all were in agreement the trade validity really hinges on what ATL gets for the 1R pick this summer. With Dallas’ slide out of the playoffs race, advantage ATL. A win last night in The Clip Joint behind 26 points and 8 dimes brought Young’s season numbers to 16/3/7 so he’s not a flop on his own. ATL will most probably have two lottery picks in June and a nice tandem in Young and Collins. The Lin-Len bench duo is solid. Travis Schlenk learned his stuff well in GSW to pick them and Lloyd Pierce is a Process Server type of HC. Watch for Hawk Power in the next years.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Boogie Nights on the road concluded in Indiana for the champs in a blowout win to end the trip a perfect 5-0. Cousins got 22 points and six boards with 4 dimes in their 11th straight win. The Chef got 26 on 10/13 shooting.

Home for a Process serving session
 

T1000

Legend
Knicks will aggressively pursue Anthony Davis according to woj. Trade kp and thj for him, trade lee for a 2nd, continue to tank, draft Zion, sign kd klay or Kemba. Boom instant contender.

A guy can dream right?

I saw him and Collins on The Jump and all were in agreement the trade validity really hinges on what ATL gets for the 1R pick this summer. With Dallas’ slide out of the playoffs race, advantage ATL. A win last night in The Clip Joint behind 26 points and 8 dimes brought Young’s season numbers to 16/3/7 so he’s not a flop on his own. ATL will most probably have two lottery picks in June and a nice tandem in Young and Collins. The Lin-Len bench duo is solid. Travis Schlenk learned his stuff well in GSW to pick them and Lloyd Pierce is a Process Server type of HC. Watch for Hawk Power in the next years.

It’s a joke to compare the trade after half a year. Doncic has a top 5 coach and actual nba players on his team. Young has one nba caliber player and a rookie head coach. Their situations aren’t even comparable. I think doncic will have a better career but one was obviously dealt a better hand for this year.
 

donquijote

G.O.A.T.
I saw him and Collins on The Jump and all were in agreement the trade validity really hinges on what ATL gets for the 1R pick this summer. With Dallas’ slide out of the playoffs race, advantage ATL. A win last night in The Clip Joint behind 26 points and 8 dimes brought Young’s season numbers to 16/3/7 so he’s not a flop on his own. ATL will most probably have two lottery picks in June and a nice tandem in Young and Collins. The Lin-Len bench duo is solid. Travis Schlenk learned his stuff well in GSW to pick them and Lloyd Pierce is a Process Server type of HC. Watch for Hawk Power in the next years.
I don't think he thinks from the GM's standpoint but even so it's still a terrible trade. Of course one can say GM wouldn't know how good Luka was going to be but the kid had proven himself at 18 and they didn't do their homework well. Young is a defensive liability and he's shooting 29% from the arc with all the freedom he has. Draft pick they will get will probably a regular substitute in the long run.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Knicks will aggressively pursue Anthony Davis according to woj. Trade kp and thj for him, trade lee for a 2nd, continue to tank, draft Zion, sign kd klay or Kemba. Boom instant contender.

A guy can dream right?



It’s a joke to compare the trade after half a year. Doncic has a top 5 coach and actual nba players on his team. Young has one nba caliber player and a rookie head coach. Their situations aren’t even comparable. I think doncic will have a better career but one was obviously dealt a better hand for this year.
Also measuring rookie coach Pierce on half a season is premature. They are a respectable 5-8 since New Year’s with wins over Philly, OKC and LAC so it’s not all bunny egg robbing. I really think they have a nice nucleus to build around and the draft in June will be deep and high quality.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
NOP were without Unibrow, Mirotic and Randle tonight on the road in Houston and still spanked the Hardens. Jrue Holiday and Jahlil Okafor sparked a 35-25 3rd quarter that erased a 7-point halftime deficit before blitzing Houston early in the final quarter and holding off the inevitable Harden rally, 121-116. The Beard kept the precious 30-point consecutive game streak alive in the last three minutes.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Unibrow is fined $50K for Rich Paul “intentionally undermining the contractual arrangement between player and team.”

Golic & Wingo had fun with this figure, purposely kept at that figure so AD cannot file a grievance. Based on his average PT and current contract, AD will earn that slap on the wrist figure in SIX MINUTES on the court.
 

T1000

Legend
Osman drops 26 on 10/16 shooting while Clarkson adds 28 on 10/-5 off the bench and power the cavs to a 116-113 victory over Washington. Keep it up Cleveland!

Okafor and Russell are starting to live up to their draft position (Russell more so than okafor). The lakers kept the two busts at #2 overall and traded the good one lol
 
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