The last 9 slams - Fed 3 - Rafa 3 - Novak 3 - Who was the most hurt during this period in regards to the slam race?

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As the title states, an incredible even split of the last 9 grand slams between Federer, Nadal and Djokovic keeps the slam tally difference between the three the same as it was after RG 2016. Federer leads Nadal by three, and Nadal leads Djokovic by two. From that perspective nothing has changed, winning a slam is an incredible feat....winning three is having a Murray or Wawrinka career, but in overall terms of the slam race, apart from all three being a few years older, everything has remained the same as far as the difference between them all is.

So the question is despite the incredible success, which player got hurt the most during this period?

Federer - Wins three slams to effectively try to pull away from Nadal, but could never hold the four slam difference as every time Federer won a slam, Nadal won the next one. Federer is now 37.5 years old, and the slam race despite him winning three slams in this period and reaching 20 is still not effectively over. It also looks like he starting to slow down, and lost a great chance at Wimbledon to pull away.

Nadal - Stays in touch with Federer, not allowing him to pull ahead however he was always playing catch up, he loses two very key matches that could have already helped him equal the slam record, AO 2017 and W 2018 were golden chances that could have given him what he needed to finally get to Federer but it did not happen. Nadal also went 0-3 against Fedovic during this period in slams, and was unable to prevent Djokovic from staying within two slams behind him.

Djokovic - Wins three slams after having a very poor performance in slams for two years, lost all the momentum he had in 2016, that arguably had he maintained, he could have overtaken Nadal and even potentially have caught Federer by now. All the success he has had in the last three slams has only brought him back to where he was nearly three years ago, and he is still in third place. And Djokovic more closer to his prime than both Federer and Nadal, still could only win as many as them.
 
TheIntrovert

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Tough one between Rafa and Novak. I’ll go with Rafa. Won three, yet he’s in the same position as he was in 2014.
 
astronautzor

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tennisaddict said:
Advantage Fed - as he kept the gap same and allowed for more time for the useless next gen to begin to offer any semblance of resistance to Novak .

It is hilarious that 37 year Fed and a pale shadow of Nadal still have to the ones to act as competition.
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"pale shadow of Nadal" Last 4 slams W/SF/SF/F, not dropping service game untill the Final match since round 2 in this years AO
 
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Nadal would be leading the slam race if not for a couple of deciding sets/points.
 
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tennisaddict said:
Advantage Fed - as he kept the gap same and allowed for more time for the useless next gen to begin to offer any semblance of resistance to Novak .

It is hilarious that 37 year Fed and a pale shadow of Nadal still have to the ones to act as competition.
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Exactly..not sure how to interpret it differently. Time passed and the slam race essentially stayed the same, so adv. Federer and Novak was hurt the most.
 
RF-18

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tennisaddict said:
Advantage Fed - as he kept the gap same and allowed for more time for the useless next gen to begin to offer any semblance of resistance to Novak .

It is hilarious that 37 year Fed and a pale shadow of Nadal still have to the ones to act as competition.
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Your butthurtism is the hilarious part.
 
The Fedfather

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For Federer and Nadal this was a period of resurgence with one of their biggest rivals MIA. Don't think that was negative for either one of them. Djokovic, on the other hand, completely missed out on some really manageable draws. He's my pick.
 
duaneeo

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Djokovic. He had won 5 of the 9 previous slams (2014 USO - 2016 USO), while Federer and Nadal won none.
 
True Fanerer

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Lew II said:
No?

What's a bigger difference in the career of a player: 3 slams instead of 0, or 6 slams instead of 3?
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TheAssassin

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Lew II said:
I disagree that nothing has changed. They're closer now in percentages.

For example after RG16 Djokovic had won 70.6% of Federer's slams, and 85.7% of Nadal's slams.

Now Djokovic has won 75% of Federer's slams and 88.2% of Nadal's slams.
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It's still the same Slam difference. :laughing: Of course the percentage will change when two numbers change by the same amount, but it's still the same gap.
 
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As a Novak fan, I've come to accept and actually started to appreciate Novak's injury and loss of motivation post 2016 RG. Those were inevitable considering his long success at the top for 5.5 years, and his winning almost everything worth winning in the 18 months before. What failed to end his career has made him a better player. So i don't think he is the most hurt.

Can't be Federer, who won 3 GS in 12 months after failing to win any in 54 months.

It has to be Nadal if someone can be "hurt" after winning 3 GS. He couldn't maximize his opportunities while Novak, and Murray, Stan, were out of form. The 2017 AO final loss had to hurt him the most. Had Nadal won that one, oh well... He seems to be cursed in several places, AO, Miami, London for WB and WTF.
 
uscwang

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Novak's mental and physical issues at 29 years of age had cost him dearly, but could have come at a worse time. It took him 2 full years to recover. He is back to his top form, if not the best ever, at the age of 31. Had that happened at a leter age, say 31, it could have ended his career.
As Novak said himself, he could have done much better in retrospect (his family and team wanted him to call it a season after WB16, for exmple), but things happen for a reason. After RG16, even without sudden decline, he had lost motivation to improve for sure. Now, Novak is as hungry to improve and to win as ever.
 
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uscwang said:
Novak's mental and physical issues at 29 years of age had cost him dearly, but could have come at a worse time. It took him 2 full years to recover. He is back to his top form, if not the best ever, at the age of 31. Had that happened at a leter age, say 31, it could have ended his career.
As Novak said himself, he could have much better in retrospect (his family and team wanted him to call it a season after WB16, for exmple), but things happen for a reason. After RG16, even without sudden decline, he had lost motivation to improve for sure. Now, Novak is as hungry to improve and to win as ever.
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Stay hungry.
 
King No1e

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I'd have to go with Nadal. He was the favorite at the Slams over this time period until AO19; losing to Federer and Djokovic over 5 sets when he was the clear favorite, taking a couple big upsets vs Muller and Cilic, and retiring twice, must hurt really bad for him.
Federer has definitely benefited most from it, since nobody thought he would win anymore Slams and he got 3.
With Novak the loss of form in 2017 is outweighed by the GOAT comeback.
 
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ghostofMecir

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Nadal was hurt the most because Federer won 3 slams at an age nobody wins slams. Before this 9 slam stretch, everyone thought Federer would end with 17.

By this logic, one could say Djoko was hurt, too, but since he’s a few behind Nadal, Nadal is the one most immediately hurt.
 
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Federer should have gotten more out of this period when his nemesis Djoker was burnt out mentally, then later injuried. I think that the 2018 Wimbledon was the last chance that Fed had to beat a rusty Djoker. Djoker has since upped his game by 3-4 levels. I also think that Fed should have won the 2017 USO.

New racket Fed(since 2014) is:
5-0 is Murray
8-2 vs Stan
5-1 vs Nadal
6-10 vs Djoker

Djoker was hurt the most with his Borg-like burnout, and then, his injury.
 
Djokovic2011

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ghostofMecir said:
Nadal was hurt the most because Federer won 3 slams at an age nobody wins slams. Before this 9 slam stretch, everyone thought Federer would end with 17.
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Lol, I sometimes wonder who Nadal and his team must get most frustrated with - Federer for seemingly being impervious to the ageing process or Djokovic for being such a tough matchup for him.
 
Phoenix1983

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Federer, the GOAT, has only gained, by winning three more slams at an age when most players are retired - to take him to the magical total of 20.

Novak Djokovic hasn’t really lost anything due to his recent resurgence.

Nadal is the one who has lost out, comparatively. He could have beaten his two great rivals in close matches, but instead has allowed Federer to keep his distance, and Novak Djokovic to creep up on him again. He’s once again relying on clay to keep him in the hunt.
 
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tennisaddict said:
Advantage Fed - as he kept the gap same and allowed for more time for the useless next gen to begin to offer any semblance of resistance to Novak .

It is hilarious that 37 year Fed and a pale shadow of Nadal still have to the ones to act as competition.
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Really is unprecedented. When has this happened before where there’s no new generation to push out the old?
 
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Lew II said:
I disagree that nothing has changed. They're closer now in percentages.

For example after RG16 Djokovic had won 70.6% of Federer's slams, and 85.7% of Nadal's slams.

Now Djokovic has won 75% of Federer's slams and 88.2% of Nadal's slams.
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But does percentage make any sense here where the race is decided by absolute numbers. In that sense, I would say Novak has hurt the most in last couple of years because the standing remains the same as far as difference in slams goes between the Big-3. Novak entering into WIM 2016 is at the same place as he was after winning AO 2019. He has hurt himself most by going in to a leave of absence as far as slams goes. Even if he could have added couple that would have cut the number of Nadal and Federer.
 
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It can't possibly be Fed who was harmed the most. Everyone else from his generation is long, long since retired. For him to pad his slam lead at age 35-36 is nothing short of a sporting miracle.

It's hard to say that Rafa is the big "loser" in this equation, since he still sits with a lofty 17 majors. But in the scheme of things, Nadal has lost the most. He's in a position now where injuries are mounting ever-faster, HC play seems almost impossible for him to sustain and Djokovic can take him out on clay (2011, anyone?)
 
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