Multifilaments Versus soft co-polys

PierreMBK · Mar 20, 2019

Hi,

I watched some days ago a new video from Tennis Warehouse which talked about soft Co-Poly:

I'm very interested in this and asked some questions. One guy answered me (I'm grateful to him) but I'm still perplexed and would like to have more opinions about this topic.

Here you can read all the conversation (cf. screenshots).

It's about multis versus new soft (Co-)Poly strings. Is a soft co-poly better than a (good) multi for arm as it is often low stiffness rated? (cf. second screenshot conversation)

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2nd Serve Ace · Mar 20, 2019

What about good old syn gut?

Usually costs about $4. Is more durable than multis. Better tension maintenance than polys. Syn gut tends to perform horribly as a cross string due to gumming up and locking the stringbed, but as a main it work great for me.

So I'd be pushing syngut/poly as the best price/performance setup, imho.

USPTARF97 · Mar 20, 2019

2nd Serve Ace said:
What about good old syn gut?

Usually costs about $4. Is more durable than multis. Better tension maintenance than polys. Syn gut tends to perform horribly as a cross string due to gumming up and locking the stringbed, but as a main it work great for me.

So I'd be pushing syngut/poly as the best price/performance setup, imho.

Poly/syn gut performs well as long as it is a solid core synthetic gut. Prefer the longevity of poly/syn gut compared to poly/multi. (8-10hrs)
Tourbite 1.25/ OGSM 1.30
Max Power 1.25/ OGSM 1.30

Soft poly strings I don’t care for as much because they typically have terrible tension maintenance.

PierreMBK · Mar 20, 2019

USPTARF97 said:
Poly/syn gut performs well as long as it is a solid core synthetic gut. Prefer the longevity of poly/syn gut compared to poly/multi. (8-10hrs)
Tourbite 1.25/ OGSM 1.30
Max Power 1.25/ OGSM 1.30

Soft poly strings I don’t care for as much because they typically have terrible tension maintenance.

Ok thanks for your feedback, that's why I ask. My Tecnifibre multifilaments keep the tension very well and I can keep them until they break. I'm not a big string breaker yet. I can keep it around 15 hours at least. For the price I pay I consider it decent (compared to the price and advantages/disadvantages of some poly such as Luxilon strings). I have comfort, tolerance, tension maintenance, enough control and power with my last one (Duramix).

I started to do lots of tournaments last year. I don't know exactly the rating equivalence between France and US but I think I'm around 3.5. During my match tournaments my multifilaments strings are sometimes almost dead after 3 matches.

I'm interested in co-poly cause some of my partners are using them. Just some questions as I don't know very well this type of strings and what would be the benefits of using a soft co-poly (or other type of strings such as your suggestions) instead of multifilaments in the future particularly about the arm-friendly aspect. Thanks

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2nd Serve Ace · Mar 20, 2019

Yeah, I completely agree that natural gut/nylon moves way better against a smooth poly.

I just go with the gut in the mains as it gives a more "grippy" feel that I prefer. Also tension maintenance is more consistent (I expect to get 20 hrs out of a stringbed).

But plenty of great players like it the other way, as well.

Dartagnan64 · Mar 20, 2019

2nd Serve Ace said:
But plenty of great players like it the other way, as well.

If I didn't have to pay for strings I'd put a shaped poly in the mains with gut crosses too. But tension maintenance and durability preclude that combination for the masses.

PierreMBK · Mar 20, 2019

Dartagnan64 said:
If I didn't have to pay for strings I'd put a shaped poly in the mains with gut crosses too. But tension maintenance and durability preclude that combination for the masses.

Yeah I imagine you need to buy both strings, natural gut string and a poly. This combination looks great as many users said but also very expensive (price/duration) not in my plans yet [emoji28]

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n8dawg6 · Mar 20, 2019

multis feel like a pillow compared to “soft” co-polys. the primary issues with a multi are spin production and longevity ... which depend on your swing type and speed

2nd Serve Ace · Mar 20, 2019

n8dawg6 said:
the primary issues with a multi are spin production and longevity

And there is a brutal inverse relationship between these two qualities, unfortunately.

PierreMBK · Mar 20, 2019

2nd Serve Ace said:
And there is a brutal inverse relationship between these two qualities, unfortunately.

Indeed, you killed your multi through spin. One of my friend doesn't break his multi cause he plays quite flat. Not much top spin. That's why he doesn't break. He should play with natural gut...

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PierreMBK · Mar 20, 2019

The guy on YouTube just answered me and told me similar suggestions/alternative. Very interesting topic. Thanks for all your answers.

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fjcamry · Mar 21, 2019

PierreMBK said:
Ok thanks for your feedback, that's why I ask. My Tecnifibre multifilaments keep the tension very well and I can keep them until they break. I'm not a big string breaker yet. I can keep it around 15 hours at least. For the price I pay I consider it decent (compared to the price and advantages/disadvantages of some poly such as Luxilon strings). I have comfort, tolerance, tension maintenance, enough control and power with my last one (Duramix).

I started to do lots of tournaments last year. I don't know exactly the rating equivalence between France and US but I think I'm around 3.5. During my match tournaments my multifilaments strings are sometimes almost dead after 3 matches.

I'm interested in co-poly cause some of my partners are using them. Just some questions as I don't know very well this type of strings and what would be the benefits of using a soft co-poly (or other type of strings such as your suggestions) instead of multifilaments in the future particularly about the arm-friendly aspect. Thanks

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The ball path is better with co poly in the crosses as it’s slick and durable supporting the multifilament in the mains . Multifilament have better playability while in the mains and if you tension just right (58lbs) it’s very lively . While the poly is supporting in the cross and is slick for increase spin and control (SnapBack of multifilament higher if tension crosses lower or 10% less (6lbs))

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Unforced Terrors · Mar 21, 2019

2nd Serve Ace said:
What about good old syn gut?

Usually costs about $4. Is more durable than multis. Better tension maintenance than polys. Syn gut tends to perform horribly as a cross string due to gumming up and locking the stringbed, but as a main it work great for me.

So I'd be pushing syngut/poly as the best price/performance setup, imho.

I tried the Syn gut main poly cross and loved it. However I only got 4 hours of hitting before the syn gut snapped. Was using 16g Duraflex and 17g 4g soft.
How much playing time do you get out of your setup?

2nd Serve Ace · Mar 21, 2019

Unforced Terrors said:
I tried the Syn gut main poly cross and loved it. However I only got 4 hours of hitting before the syn gut snapped. Was using 16g Duraflex and 17g 4g soft.
How much playing time do you get out of your setup?

I can get about 15 hrs out of forten sweet 16 and cream 1.28 mix of singles and doubles. Now, just heavy practice ground stroke rallying is tougher on strings by about a factor of 3 compared to point play.

Prince has prince premier control in 15 g but I think only on a reel. The black ppc is a great main for a few $ more.

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