Have you been more amazed by Federer's or Nadal's Grand Slam winning seasons?

McEnroeisanartist · Jun 12, 2019

Have you been more amazed by Federer's or Nadal's winning Grand Slam winning seasons.

I think there has been a big difference between the two in how they have accumulated their 20 and 18 Grand Slams respectively.

3 Slam Winning Year
Federer - 3
Nadal - 1

2 Slam Winning Year
Federer - 6
Nadal - 4

1 Slam Winning Year
Nadal - 13
Federer - 11

Federer's 8 Grand Slams in 10 Grand Slams is a well-known measure of his dominance, whereas Nadal's 10 consecutive years or winning at least one Grand Slam is well-known measure of his consistency.

BeatlesFan · Jun 12, 2019

Let's see.... every single Fed fan will vote for Roger and every single Nadal fan will choose Rafa. Not trashing your thread, just pointing out the obvious.

Breakpointerer · Jun 12, 2019

Both have been absolutely incredible, can't really choose.

Breakpointerer · Jun 12, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
Let's see.... every single Fed fan will vote for Roger and every single Nadal fan with choose Rafa. Not trashing your thread, just pointing out the obvious.

Pretty much this.

Jonas78 · Jun 12, 2019

Off-topic, but im most impressed with Djokovic 2011 season

Fedr and three others · Jun 12, 2019

Jonas78 said:
Off-topic, but im most impressed with Djokovic 2011 season

Mm he nearly even reached all the slam finals

King No1e · Jun 12, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
Let's see.... every single Fed fan will vote for Roger and every single Nadal fan with choose Rafa. Not trashing your thread, just pointing out the obvious.

So this thread is targeted toward Ultronians. Got it.

King No1e · Jun 12, 2019

Fedr and three others said:
Mm he nearly even reached all the slam finals

Whose alt are you?
If you're not an alt, then I'm quite impressed with your username.

ChaelAZ · Jun 12, 2019

McEnroeisanartist said:
Have you been more amazed by Federer's or Nadal's winning Grand Slam winning seasons.

I think there has been a big difference between the two in how they have accumulated their 20 and 18 Grand Slams respectively.

3 Slam Winning Year
Federer - 3
Nadal - 1

2 Slam Winning Year
Federer - 6
Nadal - 4

1 Slam Winning Year
Nadal - 13
Federer - 11

Federer's 8 Grand Slams in 10 Grand Slams is a well-known measure of his dominance, whereas Nadal's 10 consecutive years or winning at least one Grand Slam is well-known measure of his consistency.

Where are the factors for time frame and conversion rate?
Are there bonus points for doing this while number 1 in the world, or is it more impressive if they were not number1?
How many where against each other and how many where just against other mugs?
No clay reference? There HAS TO BE A CALY REFERENCE WHEN TALKING ABOUT NADAL AND SLAM COUNT OR YOUR POINT IS MOOT.
What about that footnote thrid wheel player in the Nadal/Fed era?

Born Again · Jun 12, 2019

At least half of fed's wins were against subpar opposition...
Nadal OTOH won little ( relative to other GOAT candidates ) outside of clay

OldschoolKIaus · Jun 12, 2019

Such a Fedal focused thread. Djoko's TTW army will try to kill OP ... or atleast ban.

Djokovic2011 · Jun 12, 2019

Obviously Federer. Nadal never even achieved back to back multi-slam seasons.

TripleATeam · Jun 12, 2019

Federer. His slam-winning years were quite impressive, and even some in which he didn't were very high level (2015).

Sport · Jun 12, 2019

I am more impressed by Nadal of course, because of the competition he faced. Not the same beating Federer at WB/AO than defeating Roddick, Phillippoussis, Hewitt, old Agassi, etc.

kar_katch · Jun 12, 2019

Sport said:
I am more impressed by Nadal of course, because of the competition he faced. Not the same beating Federer at WB/AO than defeating Roddick, Phillippoussis, Hewitt, old Agassi, etc.

Nadal didn't face federer to win his slams. He faced Ferrer, berdych, anderson, peurta, soderling, thiem, thiem etc. And no he didn't win slams vs above players you mention as he was too busy losing to them or others in early rounds. I mean even Gonalez crushed a peak nadal at the AO for petes sake or nadal lost 1R wimbeldon in 2013 during Nadals best ever year or lost to brown 1R right after winning the FO and being peak in the form of his life and then lost again to brown just to prove it wasnt a fluke

Phoenix1983 · Jun 12, 2019

Sport said:
I am more impressed by Nadal of course, because of the competition he faced. Not the same beating Federer at WB/AO than defeating Roddick, Phillippoussis, Hewitt, old Agassi, etc.

Yes, shocking that Federer didn't defeat Federer at W/AO. I'll never forgive him for that.

Cupcake · Jun 12, 2019

kar_katch said:
Nadal didn't face federer to win his slams.

Not Nadal's fault that Fed couldnt make it that far.

Druss · Jun 12, 2019

Sport said:
I am more impressed by Nadal of course, because of the competition he faced. Not the same beating Federer at WB/AO than defeating Roddick, Phillippoussis, Hewitt, old Agassi, etc.

Federer slam winning years - 2003 to 2018
Nadal slam winning years - 2005 to 2019.

That's a very similar time frame if you ask me. The main difference is that in 2003-05 there was Agassi, Hewitt, Roddick, Safin and in 2017-19 you had Raonic, Nishikori, Dimitroll, Zverev.

Ann · Jun 12, 2019

Most impressed by:
Fred overall.
Ralph's dominance on one surface.

SeeItHitIt · Jun 12, 2019

Fed’s game translates to anything. Rafa’s...not so much (but obviously built/tailored to dirt). If it weren’t for the clay season, one of them would be waiting tables near the Algarve.

kar_katch · Jun 12, 2019

Cupcake said:
Not Nadal's fault that Fed couldnt make it that far.

Not feds fault ned couldnt reach fed 2003-2007 and basically most of neds career was too busy losing to weak era mugs. He should have reached Djokovic much more often too.

Lleytonstation · Jun 12, 2019

To me, the year that surprised me most was 2017. For both it was incredible. To think they would split the slams after both taking extended periods off at their age. Without that year playing out like it did, things would be very different.

Ann · Jun 12, 2019

Lleytonstation said:
To me, the year that surprised me most was 2017. For both it was incredible. To think they would split the slams after both taking extended periods off at their age. Without that year playing out like it did, things would be very different.

2017 will always be incredibly special because of the AO. I thought Fred was dead and then he pulled off one of the greatest victories of his 82 year career. I still get goosebumps.

Lleytonstation · Jun 12, 2019

Ann said:
2017 will always be incredibly special because of the AO. I thought Fred was dead and then he pulled off one of the greatest victories of his 82 year career. I still get goosebumps.

Watch that 5th set anytime I am feeling down ha. But who else can make a grown man cry during a match at wimbledon

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Ann · Jun 12, 2019

Lleytonstation said:
Watch that 5th set anytime I am feeling down ha. But who else can make a grown man cry during a match at wimbledon .

I blubbered like an old fool.

Towser83 · Jun 19, 2019

Sport said:
I am more impressed by Nadal of course, because of the competition he faced. Not the same beating Federer at WB/AO than defeating Roddick, Phillippoussis, Hewitt, old Agassi, etc.

Funny how its "old agassi" when he was 33 to 35 at the the time Fed was beating him, but when when Fed is this age, 33 is not old at all and Fed of the AO 2017 who defeated Nadal is not old.

Also funny how Thiem with zero slams is a great player in your eyes because he would be an all time great if it wasnt for Nadal and Nadal gets praised for stopping him, but Fed gets no praise for Stopping Roddick, Hewitt, Safin (2 of those players that actually beat Sampras at his best events and all e won slams) without which they would also be all time greats

beard · Jun 19, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
Let's see.... every single Fed fan will vote for Roger and every single Nadal fan will choose Rafa. Not trashing your thread, just pointing out the obvious.

As Nole's fan I say Nadal... 5 years younger... 2 more slam winning years... Much stronger oponents... Say no more....

ChaelAZ · Jun 19, 2019

I have always been a Nadal fan, but not so much of early Fed. I always appreciated his play, just never caught the bug. Anymore though I can step back and see what a treat both have been in their careers, so it is hard to pick one over the other. 2017 was just amazing for both and I think was the feather in the cap to it all.

titoelcolombiano · Jun 19, 2019

Djokovic2011 said:
Obviously Federer. Nadal never even achieved back to back multi-slam seasons.

Either did Fed once some competition showed up

robthai · Jun 19, 2019

titoelcolombiano said:
Either did Fed once some competition showed up

Nadal couldnt achieve it regardless of competition. He couldnt do it when the competition was both weak and strong. He was just never consistent enough to do it.

ledwix · Jun 19, 2019

As a 15-year Fed fan, I have to admit that the most mind-boggling and impressive statistic in tennis is 12 RG championships by Rafael Nadal. He has 90% of Fed's slam titles, so the slam record, while it decides who I believe to be the greatest player, slightly lags behind in comparison to the guy who has twice the RG titles as the next guy, and who won twice the RG titles after losing to Soderling as before.

titoelcolombiano · Jun 20, 2019

robthai said:
Nadal couldnt achieve it regardless of competition. He couldnt do it when the competition was both weak and strong. He was just never consistent enough to do it.

Couldn't do what exactly? Are we talking about his 18 slams by the age of 33? Youngest man ever to win 18 slams? Sounds like a pretty great achievement to me...

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