J011yroger, very high level strokes. The nitpicking (and I will do it too) about your left foot coming through and the followthrough are symptoms, not the problem. You tend to move your head and right shoulder through the stroke and upwards little quickly (a bit of a bail-out) when the ball is close to you, or high (mostly at the start of the video). This pulls your racket through around your head and brings your left foot through. When you had to reach for the ball a bit (out or down), your head stayed still longer. I would expect you to hit well on the run because of this. Just keep your head and shoulder into the shot a split second longer. Again, very good strokes, just nitpicking.
I am going to start a video stroke inventory. In this thread I will post videos of my strokes, hitting sessions and match play.
I intend to continue to update this as I go on, and continue adding different videos.
Have not played in two weeks, due to my sprained wrist, and decided to fool around with my ball machine, and video camera.
All I could do was hit backhands, so here they are. My first entry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3n1X6oKH_s
Backhands 6/23/2007
J
J011yroger, very high level strokes. The nitpicking (and I will do it too) about your left foot coming through and the followthrough are symptoms, not the problem. You tend to move your head and right shoulder through the stroke and upwards little quickly (a bit of a bail-out) when the ball is close to you, or high (mostly at the start of the video). This pulls your racket through around your head and brings your left foot through. When you had to reach for the ball a bit (out or down), your head stayed still longer. I would expect you to hit well on the run because of this. Just keep your head and shoulder into the shot a split second longer. Again, very good strokes, just nitpicking.
haha quick question, are you living well off?
that looks like a personal court and it looks very nice too haha
Nice Strokes Jo11. What courts are those? Are they in Nassau County? I am from Suffolk county (Port Jeff/ Stony Brook) originally and they don't look too familiar to me, unless they are the courts in Massapequa ,Farmingdale, or I think suffolk community college. Good luck with your game and wrist.
i wish i had a ball machine
wow ur racket face on the take back is closed try and keep it open if you want to change it and make it better. All the best backhands double have open like safin, simon, grosjean and others
Nice stroke Jolly, but watch that wrist. Even using a keyboard can slow recuperation depending on how injured you are. I know you're itching to get back, but.......
What H.S. is that btw? Is the backcourt bigger than standard or is it just the camera angle making it appear that way?
just change it, it looks crap ok? dont have a go at me when im trying to help you. you will get no power and you have to try harder to get ball deeper, opening the racket face is simplier thats what the backhand needs to be and thats what all the best backhanders have a simple open take back
To speak truth, I don't think you stroke here looks the best (But way better then most on these boards) But for sure it gets the job done so changing anything isn't a good idea, But your strokes are so flat (looking...youtube sucks quality) maybe talk to your coach about getting more spin on the ball? (again only from sucky quality. But nice strokes keep it up.
But your strokes are so flat
One thing that I noticed about your strokes is that you setup and execute with a "D" loop, instead of a more traditional "C" loop.
It's as if you get half way through your stroke, then pause before hitting out. In my experience, this can lead to technical failure under extreme pressure situations.
I'd love to see a sound technique like yours as "one" continuous motion.
Thanks for the video, this should help out on my game a lot. I look forward to seeing more videos from you.
I am going to start a video stroke inventory. In this thread I will post videos of my strokes, hitting sessions and match play.
I intend to continue to update this as I go on, and continue adding different videos.
Have not played in two weeks, due to my sprained wrist, and decided to fool around with my ball machine, and video camera.
All I could do was hit backhands, so here they are. My first entry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3n1X6oKH_s
Backhands 6/23/2007
J
That is my N90, 13.6oz 5phl. Same as ever.
I was trying out Pacific Poly Xforce. They wanted me to try it. Normally I play ALU Rough. But the racquet is the same.
J
Where's the broom at?
J011y
please ignore those who have nothing constructive to say and post just to be jerks. I'd hate to see this thread loose its focus and degrade into nothing but name calling, it happens too often. Tennis is hard and I'd like to get better at it, posters like yourself are very helpful. It's nice to have high level players provide advice and video. I know and you know that you don't have to defend yourself to those that unfairly criticize. Don't waste your energy or encourage them.
And if I had to guess, I would put average speed around 75-80+mph.
J
Are you sure those are 75-80? I realize it's hard to judge speed through a camera. If your intentions to help others are genuine (and if you have access to a speed meter), could you post a video of another round of backhands with the speed measured? And throw in the forehands too if you can
I can't stay on the couch any longer going to lose what is left of my mind. Backhands don't hurt, I just don't have the strength to hit forehands. Or slice backhands for that matter.
J
Did you watch the video? The majority of the balls are clearing the net by six feet+. And if I had to guess, I would put average speed around 75-80+mph. Obviously how asthetically pleasing a stroke is is personal opinion, and frankly all I care about is it being effective and technically sound. They hand out trophys for winning rounds last I checked.
But my strokes are most assuredly NOT flat. I hit heavier topspin than just about anyone on the planet.
J
So how are you doing in opens? BTW, how high are you ranked?Ya, I know exactly how good/bad I am. And I know why others post what they do. If you notice, I don't reply to any of the childish/immature postings.
I thought it would be a cool idea to do a stroke inventory, just so people could see who they are talking to, and what I am talking about.
Make no mistake, I do the video to help myself get better, but if I can help someone else out at the same time by posting, they why not?
J
MANY technical faults? There are MANY technical faults in everyone's game, but hey, results are what count. Also, to be fair, criticism is normally something is requested, ie. please criticise and help me with my strokes. JR seems to have mostly wanted to share his strokes, and good luck to him for doing it.
How you would know that there's many at your club that hit better than JR is interesting, given that so far, we've only seen his BH when recovering from a sprained wrist?
Come on - that's an undeserved low-blow. From all reports, JR plays tournaments regularly (he often posts about his results), why take the silly swipe at him for posting some shots against a ball machine?
Seems you're just trying to stir stuff up?
It's all fine and dandy to post videos of yourself for open criticism or even to just show us what your style of play is but save us the crap about "even the one I shanked went in," and "I have access to the best coaching in the world." Who wants to hear that? Snoopy, did you even read what I was responding to? And be honest, tell me if you think that doesn't sound a little bit braggish. The fact is, it's not neccessary and if you are that comfortable with how good you are, what's wrong with criticism even if it is from someone who might not be as well versed in tennis as you? You don't have to take the criticism. Nobody is putting that pressure on you. Also, when you reply to some criticism like, "I know the answer, do you?" How else are we supposed to take it other than saying "this is just another know-it-all slamming every little bit of criticism he is receiving because he can't take it?"
I would be more than happy to post an unedited video of me hitting if I had the capabilities right now so you guys could come on and thrash me, praise my strokes, criticize, etc. I have no problem with that. It's just all the extra crap that came along with it, Jolly.
So how are you doing in opens? BTW, how high are you ranked?
Woah, are we talking nationally? :shock: You're.....really.....good.......:shock:The highest I was ranked was 8, the lowest around 20, for the mostpart I have been hovering on the outskirts of the top 10, and my goal was to finish inside the top 10 at years end, and decent nationally aswell.
I missed three tournaments because of my wrist, and no doubt my ranking has plummeted as a result. Had to withdraw from one where I was the #1 seed right when I hurt it, and missed two others, will probably miss one or two more by the time I am up to speed, so this is a pretty big blow in the middle of tournament season.
I am such a streaky player that I need to play a lot, so on a good week I can do some damage, and if I get smoked in the first round on a bad week it isn't such a big deal.
J
Please, only post other strokes when you are fully fit, seems pointless to show us your strokes when you are not fully fit, thanks!
Woah, are we talking nationally? :shock: You're.....really.....good.......:shock:
Streaky? Sounds like me.
Woah, are we talking nationally? :shock: You're.....really.....good.......:shock:
Streaky? Sounds like me.
Ahhhh, now I get it, you're still good though.No, I want to finish top 10 in my section. Would be thrilled to be top 50 nationally. And no, I am not that good, I just play lots of tournaments, and am streaky, so on a good week I can do some damage.
J
No, I want to finish top 10 in my section. Would be thrilled to be top 50 nationally. And no, I am not that good, I just play lots of tournaments, and am streaky, so on a good week I can do some damage.
J
Yeah, you should be extremely streaky with the type of stokes you have. The room for error you have is so low with how hard you hit. Do you try to set up the point before even trying to hit hard in any shape or form, or do you just blast at it until the other player misses. Also back to my last post, with the ticks in your strokes when you are having a bad day and you are getting pissed off, the small notches will increase and your stokes will be off again and that will just **** you off more