RaulRamirez
Legend
Yes, my wife and I thank you.Does having a hotter wife counts in the debate ?
Although, as a pretty good high school player and mediocre men's player, I modestly remove myself from such consideration.
More Impressive for a Legacy: NCYGS or Olympic Singles Gold?
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Although, as a pretty good high school player and mediocre men's player, I modestly remove myself from such consideration.
goldengate14
Professional
Your post is fanboyism not based on reality. Olympic gold dwarfs a nycgs. To blame the media is hilarious but not surprisig
goldengate14
Professional
Exactly my point. The thread was about a legacy
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
Olympic gold in singles is worth at least 8 Slams.
Dolgopolov85
G.O.A.T.
And this is the part where I tell you I am a Federer fan and have been since 2003, when Djokovic was just about turning pro. But unlike you and other hilarious glory hunters, I don't twist and disfigure my standards to somehow defend 'my guy'. That's complete bollocks. Agassi's career slam was a heck of a deal in the 90s and we talked about it way more than his lame Gold Medal in a weak-ass field and you're telling me Djokovic's NCYGS doesn't matter? How disingenuous can you possibly get? Yes, Olympic Gold means a lot...in track and field, gymnastics, swimming and a host of other sports that are nowhere as commercialized as tennis. But not in tennis...olympic medals simply don't matter as much in tennis, never have.
ttwreader
Hall of Fame
Technically, tennis at the Olympics is like a masters 1000 regarding the draw, format. Someone should remind me how many players have won all the masters 1000 without missing one (and a masters 1000 happens every year, not one in 4 years as the Olympics)? So missing one of these tournaments should be a big deal?
It's just an amateur tournament without prize money, ranking point, just the honor one would receive when doing something for his/her country.
It's just an amateur tournament without prize money, ranking point, just the honor one would receive when doing something for his/her country.
NAS
Hall of Fame
Murray goat
NAS
Hall of Fame
Depends on the edition, for me 2008, 2012 were equivalent to yec, 2016 equivalent to master.
2000, 2004, 2021 equivalent to atp 500 and rest edition equivalent to atp 250
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
9-1 final record in futures.
Topspin 365
Rookie
Zverev just trying to make himself feel relevant to the Big 3 and recent slam winners Thiem and Medvedev.
Sunny014
Legend
Olympics is designed to test the physical limits of players and only the best wins there, thats how tough it is. Winning an Olmpics Gold in Athletics/Wrestling/Swimming etc etc is tougher than winning the asian games/world athletics meet which is tougher than the local competitons happening around.
Now when it comes to tennis then Slams already are the pinnacle, this is what you fellows who talk of Olympics need to understand, reason why it has no value is because tennis has no business being in the olympics, if Tennis had to be there then Olympics should have been a best of 7 sets tournament played over many rounds and also having at least 4000 points in the calender year. Then winning Olympics would have been prestigious.
As of now it is worthless.... Nadal and Murray's gold medals have no value !
Now when it comes to tennis then Slams already are the pinnacle, this is what you fellows who talk of Olympics need to understand, reason why it has no value is because tennis has no business being in the olympics, if Tennis had to be there then Olympics should have been a best of 7 sets tournament played over many rounds and also having at least 4000 points in the calender year. Then winning Olympics would have been prestigious.
As of now it is worthless.... Nadal and Murray's gold medals have no value !
NAS
Hall of Fame
Rafa and Murray gold medal came from best edition of Olympics tennis, they will always be held in higher regards.
I only love these two edition of Olympic tennis
Sunny014
Legend
Athletes make events special, events don't make athletes special.
Just because Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps lit the Olympics on fire doesn't mean Nadal's gold medal has any relevance in his GOAT Race vs Novak as it doesn't signify any special feat that cannot be achieved.
So I am sorry to say that Olympics has no value as far as tennis goes, olympics is known for other events where boundaries of human bodies are tested and that is why those performance are special.
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Deleted member 748597
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No. I refuse to be a salty Djokovic fanboy who is trying to devalue the Olympic Gold due to Djokovic's failure to win it.
goldengate14
Professional
Thiem not really same generation though
Topspin 365
Rookie
"recent slam winners"
Sunny014
Legend
Djokovic winning Olympics or not winning is his problem, if he craves for something which is not useful then thats his problem.
Olympics has been about testing boundaries of athleticism, otherwise even cheerleading at the olympics can be considered special day of your life, but that doesn't mean it should be considered special
Tennis at the olympics is just timepaas, not of any significance in the GOAT race even 1%, its points are 0 in the calendar year, that is its worth !!
goldengate14
Professional
Murray would disagree
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Deleted member 748597
Guest
Incorrect analysis. The Olympics is bigger than the game of tennis itself and therefore has to be much bigger than Slams. The so-called GOAT candidate constantly failing to win it while also crying and raging suggests that he cannot be the GOAT candidate at all. Djokovic has been failing when it really mattered for too long.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Very troublesome as a Djokovic fan.
Sunny014
Legend
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BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Hilarious that you actually have some Rafa-obsessives voting for the OGM in this poll. One slam is worth 500 OGM's in tennis. No debate.
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Deleted member 748597
Guest
Honestly, I laughed so much while writing that post.thats an argument like that Beggarseve
Sunny014
Legend
Yes, the guys who wanna glorify olympics Gold medals are like that. Mostly Nadal fans and Murray fans do that, we all know why.
Honestly even if Federer had won gold in olympics I dont think I would have used that as a big highlight, that is just another best of 3, not of any value because the event is that shabby.
Plus A big mistake lies with Novak as well, I donno why he is obsessed with Olympics, so much that he cries and creates a ruckus, maybe he is too patriotic, he crying and all has made it a butt of jokes for Nadal fans like clayqueen and many others to exploit that ......
Sunny014
Legend
Everything that is yellow is not Gold, it can be sh*t as well.
OIympics is known for Bolt and Phelps breaking world records and raising the bar for human race, thats why it is so prestigious
However Sascha wininng some medal there or Murray winning something raises nothing, it is a waste of time, a petty best of 3 tourney
OIympics is known for Bolt and Phelps breaking world records and raising the bar for human race, thats why it is so prestigious
However Sascha wininng some medal there or Murray winning something raises nothing, it is a waste of time, a petty best of 3 tourney
Topspin 365
Rookie
Only Murray would disagree.
Sunny014
Legend
Murray and his loyal fan Mainad who thinks Murray is on par with Agassi and close to Sampras.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
We have already reported him to the Nole authorities. We expect a swift action
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Deleted member 748597
Guest
This fake Nole fan must be stopped for good.
goldengate14
Professional
Well ill take the views of a top.professional over social media users
No, you take the views of select top professionals. What about the views of the players who skipped the Olympics because they don’t view it as important at all? I’m guessing they don’t count for whatever reason you’ll come up with.
goldengate14
Professional
Who skipped it by saying it was not important?
i do.not think tennis should be in the Olympics. But it is. And its a big deal for players. No prize money. No points. If it was not important why on earth would players interrupt their schedules to play it?
Zverev also said his 2021 season was one of the best of all time, a year without any slam wins lol.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa has accomplished the Channel Slam twice.
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Deleted member 771911
Guest
OG elevates you out of the tennis bubble and into a true national sporting icon who even non tennis fans will care about.
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
You're obviously right - but I always thought you were a neutral tennis historian, first and foremost.
ForehandRF
Legend
lol
goldengate14
Professional
He won the Olympics. Kind of answers the thread title
And the Olympics is a glorified 250 lol.
goldengate14
Professional
Not what the profesionals think. Ill take their view.
Not even in the same galaxy. Nadal beat just 1 player in the top 8 to win Olympic gold in 2008. An achievement to be sure. But not even approaching winning 1 slam in tennis achievement terms, let alone 4 slams in a row. And I mean no disrespect to Rafa in saying that.
So why do some "professionals" choose to play a 250 over the Olympics?
goldengate14
Professional
Thats easy. They would be ones who have no chance of a medal but need the money and rankig points. Tennis is hard at the lower levels.
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