Novak Djokovic told he ‘already seems outdated’ as Jannik Sinner ‘invented a new game’

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Italian tennis great Adriano Panatta believes Jannik Sinner has “invented a new game” and asserted Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal — and even Novak Djokovic — seem “outdated” in comparison.

The 1976 French Open champion also assessed that Federer “would have had a lot of trouble with Sinner” even when at his peak because the Italian “hits too hard.”

Sinner crushed Grigor Dimitrov 6-3, 6-1 in the final of the 2024 Miami Open on Sunday to win his third title of 2024 and continue his remarkable surge.

The 22-year-old, who now holds a 22-1 record this season, has climbed to a career-high ranking of world No 2, having also triumphed at the Australian Open and in Rotterdam this year.

The Italian has lost only three matches since his defeat to Alexander Zverev in the fourth round of the 2023 US Open in September. Following that, Sinner has won five titles, led Italy to Davis Cup glory and also finished as a runner-up at the ATP Finals.

Panatta, a former world No 4 who played professionally from 1969 and 1983, lauded Sinner after his compatriot’s latest triumph and made some big statements involving the Big Three.

“Have you ever trained with a ball throwing machine? The ball throwing machine, as you know, never makes mistakes,” the 73-year-old Italian told RAI.

“Jannik invented a new game. Even Djokovic already seems outdated today, not to mention Federer or Nadal. These players are already part of the past. But not because they resigned, but because their game no longer corresponds to what is needed today.

“I’ll even say a word to you. Even Federer at his best would have had a lot of trouble with Sinner because Jannik hits too hard, I’ve never seen him hit that hard, come on.”

Following Djokovic’s record-breaking 23rd Grand Slam triumph at the 2023 French Open, Panatta argued Federer remained the GOAT despite the legendary Serbian’s achievement.

“For me, nothing changes – Roger Federer is the greatest. It’s not just a matter of aesthetics. And not even of statistics, which they like so much but leave the time they find,” he said in an interview with Corriere della Serra.

“Let me explain better – in the few years that he has played, [Bjorn] Borg has concentrated more Grand Slam victories than Djokovic, Nadal and Federer combined.”
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
“Jannik invented a new game. Even Djokovic already seems outdated today, not to mention Federer or Nadal. These players are already part of the past. But not because they resigned, but because their game no longer corresponds to what is needed today.

“I’ll even say a word to you. Even Federer at his best would have had a lot of trouble with Sinner because Jannik hits too hard, I’ve never seen him hit that hard, come on.”

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ALCARAZWON

Guest
Sinner invented the game called "ball-bashing with no variety".
No, that was Thomas Berdych.
But Alcaraz invented the game called "ball-bashing with variety and the best drop shots in the world".
 
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ALCARAZWON

Guest
YE Finals final 2023. Nuff said.
Exactly, Djokovic def. Sinner 63 63.
And Medvedev was up 63 63 in the AO Final, until the 6 hour difference caught up to him and his forehand dropped 10km.
And Alcaraz beat Sinner 16 63 62 at Indian Wells 2024.
Looks like Sinner is obsolete already...
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RG GOD

Semi-Pro
Carrot lost 2 weeks ago against his bigger rival, Alcaraz, and in his best surface, hard court.
Talk about overrated.

Now on clay he won't do nothing.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
What you all are not seeing is that it has already begun

The systematic destruction and the re-writing of history, with the big 3 being pushed into oblivion....this is what the new generations will see, and then the questions will be?

Federer who?

Nadal who?

Djokovic who?

Oh those dinosaurs? Yeah, they wouldn't last a season with these new guys.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Why is this that a new young player wins a big title and suddenly he would cause trouble to prime Federer or Nadal? They would maul him 9 out of 10 times.

The dude is the new Berdych, but while Berdych faced prime big 3, Murray, Del Potro, Wawrinka and crew Sinner is facing Berrettini and Tsitsipas.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
He's created the new blackjack and makes that ''you've got 21, I've got 22'' quote actually make sense. Fair play to the lad. He has done well creating this new game. :cool:
 

Impetus

Semi-Pro
Sinner has an extreme semi western grip which allow him to hit faster FH and recover early to be ready for the next shot.

This makes it possible for Sinner to take one/two step closer to the baseline than the other counter punchers.

That being said we are yet to see his top level. We don't know what his game will look like when players start to vary the game with short balls to draw him to the net and more aggression that will push him back.

The game has been very focused on this ball bashing kind of game for a long time (except Alcaraz and Rune) and right now Sinner preys on it.

I agree Sinner has the advantage right now, but we have to see how he reacts to being moved around on the court.

Let's see what the future brings.
 

dking68

Legend
Why is this that a new young player wins a big title and suddenly he would cause trouble to prime Federer or Nadal? They would maul him 9 out of 10 times.

The dude is the new Berdych, but while Berdych faced prime big 3, Murray, Del Potro, Wawrinka and crew Sinner is facing Berrettini and Tsitsipas.
Kid already surpassed Berdych. Keep quiet
 
Well… I don’t know about that LOL. You should be beating guys 15 years older than you. But no doubt sinner is the best right now. But that’s how it should be. Out with the old in with the new. About time the big 3 get pushed aside. I had 35 birthdays waiting for that to happen. It had to take a 22 year old to finally taken over when we had two generations prior that did crap at all.

Someone should have dethroned the big 3 at least 5 years ago. It shouldn’t have took until this year for it to happen. But that shows you what kind of losers Zverev, med, tstsipas gen really was
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Good comparison, although he's at Mbappe level now and rest seems to be playing at Harry Kane's level.
Yeah, we all know commentators will be over the top at times. Gary Lineker and the BBC pundits were taking it to a different level with some of their Messi is God banter during the world cup.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Why is this that a new young player wins a big title and suddenly he would cause trouble to prime Federer or Nadal? They would maul him 9 out of 10 times.

The dude is the new Berdych, but while Berdych faced prime big 3, Murray, Del Potro, Wawrinka and crew Sinner is facing Berrettini and Tsitsipas.

Son, you're beyond deluded if you think he's the new Berdych ,infact he's nothing like Berdych.Dude has been on a remarkable run and making history and all you can do is stay in denial?
 

dking68

Legend
Yeah tough not to when you dont have to face Nadal in the QF, Federer in the SF and Djokovic in the F.
No excuses he shatters every achievement Berdych has ever had. At 22 he’s number 2 in the world and is very close to reaching #1
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Son, you're beyond deluded if you think he's the new Berdych ,infact he's nothing like Berdych.Dude has been on a remarkable run and making history and all you can do is stay in denial?
Remarkable run with a fraction of a competition of 2007-2014. Hed be like a Tsonga if he played at the time.

I havent seen anything from him that made me go wow. And Ive seen that from Alcaraz.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
No excuses he shatters every achievement Berdych has ever had. At 22 he’s number 2 in the world and is very close to reaching #1
Good job beating the Berrettinis of the world.

Sinner would s**t himself live on court twice before he won a Slam in that era. It's easy to look good against a 37 year old Novak and Medvedev after playing a million five setters.

A 43-year old Fed with a busted knee would still be in the top 10/20 today.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Remarkable run with a fraction of a competition of 2007-2014. Hed be like a Tsonga if he played at the time.

I havent seen anything from him that made me go wow. And Ive seen that from Alcaraz.

You haven't seen anything doesn't mean it's not there. Tell me when was the last time a player went on such a remarkable run losing just one match in months? Sinner is set to dominate sooner you accept better it will be
 

ForehandCross

G.O.A.T.
“Jannik invented a new game. Even Djokovic already seems outdated today, not to mention Federer or Nadal. These players are already part of the past. But not because they resigned, but because their game no longer corresponds to what is needed today.

“I’ll even say a word to you. Even Federer at his best would have had a lot of trouble with Sinner because Jannik hits too hard, I’ve never seen him hit that hard, come on.”

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Djokovic and Federer were known to take ball bashers to cleaners.
 

ND-13

Hall of Fame
Looks like nostalgia is high on this board.

The levels of athleticism, power, fitness shown by Sinner and Alcaraz at 20 and 22 is absolutely comparable and slightly better than what big 3 achieved at the same age. Remember RF didnt even win until 23, Novak won the lone AO and Rafa never put together runs at non clay majors.

Tennis has moved on. Sinner treats it like a video game.

Time to accept reality.

Pannatta speaks the truth. Always did.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
You haven't seen anything doesn't mean it's not there. Tell me when was the last time a player went on such a remarkable run losing just one match in months? Sinner is set to dominate sooner you accept better it will be
Who cares if the competition is nothing like it used to be?

Djokovic is 37 and Alcaraz is still inconsistent. Look who Djokovic was beating in 2011 in a BETTER run.

Sinner wouldve ended his run in the SF of the Australian Open that year lmao.

Im not saying Sinner isn't a good player. I just dont understand the hype. Not only his competition is mediocre at best hes also one dimensional and has as much charisma as a carrot. SNOOZE. I look at Sinners face and theres nothing there. Jesus hes so boring. The ideal face to represent the current state of the ATP tour huhuhu.
 
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tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Yeah that's why Berdych has better slam record against Fed than Roddick + Hewitt+ Murray combined and played tough slam matches against Fed till 2013.
Timing is everything.

The 2012 USO win against Fed was legit tho. Sinner would never have a win of such magnitude.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Why is this that a new young player wins a big title and suddenly he would cause trouble to prime Federer or Nadal? They would maul him 9 out of 10 times.

The dude is the new Berdych, but while Berdych faced prime big 3, Murray, Del Potro, Wawrinka and crew Sinner is facing Berrettini and Tsitsipas.
You're exaggerating on the other side of the coin. While Panatta is overrating Sinner, you're underrating him.

Comparing Sinner in his beginnins to Berdych is like comparing Federer in his beginnings to Tim Henman.

Sinner is gonna win multiple Slams and become an ATG whether you like it or not. And no, it won't be "because he didn't face the players Federer faced". By that logic, there will never be new ATGs from 2022 on, as no new emerging player will ever face the specific players Federer faced. And assuming all future generations will forever face weaker competítion than Federer is not objective, but rather a nostalgia-driven analysis.
 
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