Another milestone in the EV revolution

1. Toyota Yaris hybrid is $28k. The Renault 5 EV will be double that price:
2. People in Australia don’t like EV’s because they don’t want to drive in a 15 minute zone
3. Australian government doesn’t give subsidies to car manufacturing in Australia because they don’t make cars here anymore
4. And smother conspiracy theory has come true as fears of personal carbon usage monitoring may come into play preventing people from driving their cars on the weekends and holidays. Wake up Sheeple!
Australians showed their mettle when so many of them willingly let the government put them in concentration camps during the COVID pandemic.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
1. Hybrids are an unnecessary expense compared to ICE
2. 15 minute zone nonsense is your usual conspiracy theory
3. Australia gives generous tax write-offs to ICE vehicle purchases
4. This a speculative point born of your usual conspiracy thinking

1. Toyota Yaris hybrid is $28k. The Renault 5 EV will be double that price:
2. People in Australia don’t like EV’s because they don’t want to drive in a 15 minute zone
3. Australian government doesn’t give subsidies to car manufacturing in Australia because they don’t make cars here anymore
4. And smother conspiracy theory has come true as fears of personal carbon usage monitoring may come into play preventing people from driving their cars on the weekends and holidays. Wake up Sheeple!
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Most of them are not connected to the party and using the state to transition an economy was even done by post-bellum America.

China has stopped buying American Treasury Bonds over the past seven years, so the implosion you will be seeing is the one you will be living.

They won't disappear because they are connected to the Chinese Communist Party and will be subsidized. It is going to be fun to watch the implosion of the Chinese CP when it happens. Hopefully I'm still alive to see it.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Quarantine was a rather blunt tool to curb a pandemic, but governments had not properly planned and therefore made forced choices.

Our right-wing government imposed lockdowns, but not concentration camps.

Australians showed their mettle when so many of them willingly let the government put them in concentration camps during the COVID pandemic.
 

emkayenaim

New User

Going to be fun watching China's electric ship sink.

The first Chinese car on the video (Chery Omoda 5) is ICE powered (with terribly welded axle as shown ). The EV equivalent has multi-link suspension instead of torsion beam but who knows what issue will arise.

They won't disappear because they are connected to the Chinese Communist Party and will be subsidized. It is going to be fun to watch the implosion of the Chinese CP when it happens. Hopefully I'm still alive to see it.

The CCP isn't the only once subsidizing it, their EVs are subsidized (temporarily until at least next year) in south east Asian countries (Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand) with plans to set up manufacturing plant already in motion.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
1. Hybrids are an unnecessary expense compared to ICE
2. 15 minute zone nonsense is your usual conspiracy theory
3. Australia gives generous tax write-offs to ICE vehicle purchases
4. This a speculative point born of your usual conspiracy thinking
Calling everything a conspiracy theory because you are too lazy to read government policy and documents is a problem you need to address.
Australians get tax breaks for using cars to conduct business especially trades people. Electric utility vehicles are way too expensive and inappropriate forms of transportation. Consider for example if you need a plumber urgently, but cannot access one because the EV’s tradie vehicle is currently being hooked up to a charger. It’s once again an example of illogical stupidity for woke left green ideology:
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Australians showed their mettle when so many of them willingly let the government put them in concentration camps during the COVID pandemic.
Yes many did unfortunately got caught with the fear and coercion and the country is heading in the wrong direction as are many English speaking western countries whose politicians are being paid off and controlled by globalist unelected leaders. Lot of policies and narratives are happening lockstep between countries and Australia is sort of like a test case for other western countries accept say Canada which is also well down the track as well with tyranny as evidenced by their young global leader and servant of the WEF.
And if you speak out you get gaslighted by certain political groups who constantly accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist like one does here. This is a common strategy used by trained cultural and economic Marxists.
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
The problem with electric cars along with many other trends and initiatives being pushed by governments and corporations is that the model of ownership is geared towards having less freedom in your life, more surveillance and more control.
The sad part about the whole thing is that many of the kids growing up today will never have had the opportunity to experience what being free is all about. They are growing up in this ever growing digital everything gulag and I cannot see how this is in anyway good for mental and physical health.
One of the best feelings of the 20th century was the freedom of owning a car made in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s and to some degree all the way up to about 2006 when all this surveillance started to ramp up.
This next video is an example of what got me exited about owning the car, a the freedom classic sports car driving in a quiet open road, we are heading in the wrong direction.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Have a look at this 60’s Volvo - it’s what freedom looked like back in the day - a simpler time where you could get away from it all. The styling is elegant compared to todays over engineered, heavy ugliness or plastic-ness made by soulless robots.
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Censorship- government and Chinese Electric vehicles - watch this again reposted from before in this thread - and wake up;
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
They were given accelerated tax breaks because of ICEdeology. That's why bloated cars clog supermarket carparks.

Calling everything a conspiracy theory because you are too lazy to read government policy and documents is a problem you need to address.
Australians get tax breaks for using cars to conduct business especially trades people. Electric utility vehicles are way too expensive and inappropriate forms of transportation. Consider for example if you need a plumber urgently, but cannot access one because the EV’s tradie vehicle is currently being hooked up to a charger. It’s once again an example of illogical stupidity for woke left green ideology:
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Boris Johnson and Scott Morrison were Marxists. That's a novel opinion.

Yes many did unfortunately got caught with the fear and coercion and the country is heading in the wrong direction as are many English speaking western countries whose politicians are being paid off and controlled by globalist unelected leaders. Lot of policies and narratives are happening lockstep between countries and Australia is sort of like a test case for other western countries accept say Canada whic
is also well down the track as well with tyranny as evidenced by their young global leader and servant of the WEF.
And if you speak out you get gaslighted by certain political groups who constantly accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist like one does here. This is a common strategy used by trained cultural and economic Marxists.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Identifying cars with freedom is a cliche straight out of Madison Avenue. Are those stuck on the Rozelle Interchange really free?

The problem with electric cars along with many other trends and initiatives being pushed by governments and corporations is that the model of ownership is geared towards having less freedom in your life, more surveillance and more control.
The sad part about the whole thing is that many of the kids growing up today will never have had the opportunity to experience what being free is all about. They are growing up in this ever growing digital everything gulag and I cannot see how this is in anyway good for mental and physical health.
One of the best feelings of the 20th century was the freedom of owning a car made in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s and to some degree all the way up to about 2006 when all this surveillance started to ramp up.
This next video is an example of what got me exited about owning the car, a the freedom classic sports car driving in a quiet open road, we are heading in the wrong direction.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Identifying cars with freedom is a cliche straight out of Madison Avenue. Are those stuck on the Rozelle Interchange really free?
Those who value freedom no longer live in large cities with surveillance everywhere and many who live near Rozelle have properties in the snowy mountains so they will have a place to go when the SHTF.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Boris Johnson and Scott Morrison were Marxists. That's a novel opinion.
Paid off by globalists who want a 1 world government which is shared with Marxist ideology. It doesn’t matter what major party you belong to - follow the money trail. I think you are deliberately refusing to get the picture, and it should be obvious by now, they are not hiding it even though you think you are.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
They were given accelerated tax breaks because of ICEdeology. That's why bloated cars clog supermarket carparks.
All small businesses that use their cars to do their work such as plumbers, electricians and builders need cars like Hilux’s, Rangers, BT 50’s and D Max’s, EV cars don’t qualify for the job - but since you have no idea how the world really works - you don’t understand or make sense.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
They had tax breaks, but they got accelerated benefits to promote fossil fuel use. and win an election You don't follow the news.

All small businesses that use their cars to do their work such as plumbers, electricians and builders need cars like Hilux’s, Rangers, BT 50’s and D Max’s, EV cars don’t qualify for the job - but since you have no idea how the world really works - you don’t understand or make sense.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Would you tell us what this "money trail" is and follow it for us? I can't waste my time on conspiracy theories whereas you do.

Paid off by globalists who want a 1 world government which is shared with Marxist ideology. It doesn’t matter what major party you belong to - follow the money trail. I think you are deliberately refusing to get the picture, and it should be obvious by now, they are not hiding it even though you think you are.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
So freedom means fleeing from the cities due to congestion, not those fifteen-minute cities, and living in our country mansions?

Those who value freedom no longer live in large cities with surveillance everywhere and many who live near Rozelle have properties in the snowy mountains so they will have a place to go when the SHTF.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
So freedom means fleeing from the cities due to congestion, not those fifteen-minute cities, and living in our country mansions?
Freedom is living independent of the state and surveillance and owning property and having personal wealth separate from the state:
There is no need for congestion if governments practised and implemented policies that encouraged decentralised living which they do not. They want you in those 15 minute cities so they can keep an eye on you.
They don’t want to build up regional areas, houses and roads because it’s against their net zero green agenda.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Would you tell us what this "money trail" is and follow it for us? I can't waste my time on conspiracy theories whereas you do.
You don’t want to waste your time because:
A/ you are lazy
b/ you are scared to find out that what I am saying is the truth
Maybe you could start off by researching who funds the chain of finance in the world including your local bank, RBA and the International Bank of Settlements and who funds the WHO, UN and WEF.
Your local politician is a puppet
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
As I suspected, the money trail exists only in your political imagination.

You don’t want to waste your time because:
A/ you are lazy
b/ you are scared to find out that what I am saying is the truth
Maybe you could start off by researching who funds the chain of finance in the world including your local bank, RBA and the International Bank of Settlements and who funds the WHO, UN and WEF.
Your local politician is a puppet
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
So freedom means having money and property. What a philosopher you are!

Freedom is living independent of the state and surveillance and owning property and having personal wealth separate from the state:
There is no need for congestion if governments practised and implemented policies that encouraged decentralised living which they do not. They want you in those 15 minute cities so they can keep an eye on you.
They don’t want to build up regional areas, houses and roads because it’s against their net zero green agenda.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
So freedom means having money and property. What a philosopher you are!
Well you obviously didn’t get the memo and/or you don’t like individuals owning their own home and being debt free right ? Are you part of - You will own nothing and be happy crowd ?
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Throwing out a few names is not a trail. It's intellectual laziness. The major banks are publicly listed, by the way.

Who finances and owns the 4 major banks in Australia?
Black Rock, Vanguard, States Street - do they mean anything to you?
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Your friends on the right have created a cost of living crisis and a home affordability crisis due to tax breaks. Congrats!

Well you obviously didn’t get the memo and/or you don’t like individuals owning their own home and being debt free right ? Are you part of - You will own nothing and be happy crowd ?
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Your friends on the right have created a cost of living crisis and a home affordability crisis due to tax breaks. Congrats!
1. House prices have soared due mass socialist style m2 expenditure policies ( typical Marxist behaviour like the Andrews communist government in Victoria ) and the scarcity of housing due to red and green tape of net zero globalist socialist agenda.
My friends don’t do that sort of stuff. Mr friends are pioneers of wealth creation.
 
The US government printing money has caused the inflation and things becoming so expensive. Not tax cuts. The Trump tax cuts were passed in 2017. The economy in the US was the best it ever had been until 2020 when the govt. decided to pay people to stay at home by printing money. Letting people keep more of the money they earn doesn't cause any crisis. Except for the crisis it causes in politicians who count on the jealousy of stupid people for power.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
How can I do homework on a conspiracy theory lacking any credibility?
Not everybody is capable - I thought you were but you keep proving people wrong.
You can’t say something doesn’t exist when it does. I guess you might be one of those people who keep forcing people to believe that 2 + 2 = 5
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Bart is very capable.....of shilling for the Chinese Communist Party. I hope he's on their payroll and not doing it for free.
I reckon he is doing it for free. They wouldn’t pay him because they don’t need to. Mind you, once if they succeed with their agenda - he won’t get the reward he thinks he should get:
 

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
As I suspected, the money trail exists only in your political imagination.
The key word is "political", the inflation is all about politics as leftist governments print money to finance their wild programs, this is supported by the printing of money to keep interest rates down.

The whole scheme collapses when interest rates rise as a result of inflation and the government debt payments also rise with inflation, absorbing a huge percentage of the national budget, crowding out further foolish spending.

We have seen this cycle many times in the past, and the Biden folks are taking us through another one.

However, I trust the American people to do due diligence and clean house.
 
The key word is "political", the inflation is all about politics as leftist governments print money to finance their wild programs, this is supported by the printing of money to keep interest rates down.

The whole scheme collapses when interest rates rise as a result of inflation and the government debt payments absorb a huge percentage of the national budget, crowding out further foolish spending.

We have seen this cycle many times in the past, and the Biden goofs are taking us through another one.

However, I trust the American people to do due diligence and clean the house in Washington.
I'm not so optimistic. People want free things.

And the other thing that has made housing(among other high ticket items) unaffordable is students who go into debt for hundreds of thousands of dollars and end up getting useless college degrees.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
American Governments print money and then expect the world to buy its Treasury Bonds. China has not bought any in seven years. It's curtains for the US debt.

The key word is "political", the inflation is all about politics as leftist governments print money to finance their wild programs, this is supported by the printing of money to keep interest rates down.

The whole scheme collapses when interest rates rise as a result of inflation and the government debt payments also rise with inflation, absorbing a huge percentage of the national budget, crowding out further foolish spending.

We have seen this cycle many times in the past, and the Biden folks are taking us through another one.

However, I trust the American people to do due diligence and clean house.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Students are being forced into debt slavery by crushing student debt, and yet you think people are getting free things in a country without universal healthcare!

I'm not so optimistic. People want free things.

And the other thing that has made housing(among other high ticket items) unaffordable is students who go into debt for hundreds of thousands of dollars and end up getting useless college degrees.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Industry propaganda is interesting but hardly fact. They point out, however, that global warming will see the extinction of many warm-weather destinations.

So at least they have the good sense to trust climate science. Follow the science!

Here we go;
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Industry propaganda is interesting but hardly fact. They point out, however, that global warming will see the extinction of many warm-weather destinations.

So at least they have the good sense to trust climate science. Follow the science!
The article is about personal carbon allowances, not your fantasy about the science. Follow the truth, not the agenda.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Students are being forced into debt slavery by crushing student debt, and yet you think people are getting free things in a country without universal healthcare!
Universal healthcare should be changed to government safety net for poor people and not government dictated healthcare that controls the doctors ability to provide honest healthcare to the individual needs,
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The article is fear-mongering by an industry group. It's a part of the political process you clearly don't understand. None of this is policy so it is untruth.

The article is about personal carbon allowances, not your fantasy about the science. Follow the truth, not the agenda.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
There is no government dictation in the Australian system. Your idea of a safety net means you support dictatorship for the poor, however defined.

Universal healthcare should be changed to government safety net for poor people and not government dictated healthcare that controls the doctors ability to provide honest healthcare to the individual needs,
 

Better_Call_Raul

Hall of Fame
Students are being forced into debt slavery by crushing student debt, and yet you think people are getting free things in a country without universal healthcare!

Forced into debt slavery? California State community colleges and public university systems are practically free.
Who exactly is being forced to attend an expensive private Ivy League university like Columbia???
You need to take a look at what some of these Columbia student protestors are studying.
:unsure:

https://nypost.com/2024/05/02/opinion/college-idiots-calling-for-intifada-have-no-idea-how-many-innocents-have-died-from-that-word/

It was interesting watching Johannah King-Slutzky do her performance art. She is a PhD student at Columbia in English and “comparative literature.”

The world could probably do without the subject of her PhD.

According to a now-deleted Columbia webpage, her research is about
“theories of the imagination and poetry as interpreted through a Marxian lens in order to update and propose an alternative to historicist ideological critiques of the Romantic imagination.”

I doubt that even King-Slutzky actually knows what any of that means.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
The article is fear-mongering by an industry group. It's a part of the political process you clearly don't understand. None of this is policy so it is untruth.
No, it’s coming and you will comply and then you will twist the truth and blame it on the conservatives because you won’t take responsibility:
There are different rules for different people - hope it works out for you mate:
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Conspiratorial thinking is the exact opposite of "taking responsibility". It's the BIG LIE of dark omnipotent forces.

No, it’s coming and you will comply and then you will twist the truth and blame it on the conservatives because you won’t take responsibility:
There are different rules for different people - hope it works out for you mate:
 
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