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So you are giving the poor the choice between dictated health care and chronic untreated illness and even death?
you will take ze voluntary, not forced, 25 shots and be happy on the condition you are willing to give up your ability to make an income and put food on the table
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Conspiratorial thinking is the exact opposite of "taking responsibility". It's the BIG LIE of dark omnipotent forces.
This post from you makes no sense and lacks clarity . Let me explain things this way - the WEF is like a giant Golf country club with wealthy donors who are members and with their power they make the rules - you as a small individual ( Bartopian) support them even though you are not allowed in the club or to play - do you get it?
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
I don't find conspiracy theories intellectually compelling.

This post from you makes no sense and lacks clarity . Let me explain things this way - the WEF is like a giant Golf country club with wealthy donors who are members and with their power they make the rules - you as a small individual ( Bartopian) support them even though you are not allowed in the club or to play - do you get it?
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
I don't find conspiracy theories intellectually compelling.
Digital Identity - they are pushing this now
Censorship bill - trying for it right now
Central bank cashless society - well under way
Social credit scores - ESG
Mass surveillance / cameras everywhere - EV’s
One world government - WEF
The great reset - Klaus’s vision
15 minute cities -,local council planning documents
You will own nothing and be happy - WEF marketing
And you think this is all a conspiracy? And it’s not compelling to you because you support the agenda, is that it?
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
JFK was assassinated, but that does not mean that this was a result of a conspiracy.

Digital Identity - they are pushing this now
Censorship bill - trying for it right now
Central bank cashless society - well under way
Social credit scores - ESG
Mass surveillance / cameras everywhere - EV’s
One world government - WEF
The great reset - Klaus’s vision
15 minute cities -,local council planning documents
You will own nothing and be happy - WEF marketing
And you think this is all a conspiracy? And it’s not compelling to you because you support the agenda, is that it?
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
JFK was assassinated, but that does not mean that this was a result of a conspiracy.
No you said that I was talking right wing conspiracy theory and now you want switch the topic to JFK? Either you think digital identity central bank digital currency, social credit scores and 15 minute cities are a right wing conspiracy theory or you believe it’s a real thing happening ? Which one is it Bart ?
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Digital Identity - they are pushing this now
Censorship bill - trying for it right now
Central bank cashless society - well under way
Social credit scores - ESG
Mass surveillance / cameras everywhere - EV’s
One world government - WEF
The great reset - Klaus’s vision
15 minute cities -,local council planning documents
You will own nothing and be happy - WEF marketing
And you think this is all a conspiracy? And it’s not compelling to you because you support the agenda, is that it?

You are seriously confounding societal progress with detrimental conspiracy, and plain ol' fear.

Anywho....back in reality.


Two of the biggest issues in EV are being challenged with some recent announcements, though still nothing coming to market for a little bit. First is charge times, which a company just showcased, allowing for about 200 miles in about 10 minutes of charge. And then the other is distance overall, which solid state and gell cell batteries are doing well to address. When the two meet with fast charging for a range of around 350 to 400 miles, the EV itself will be on par with current fuel transports. I still believe hydrogen or other zero emission vehicles are the better choice, both for the environment and that progress in hydrogen production could eventually make it safe and allow consumer to produce their own energy, cutting out OPEC+ and other corporate controls and costs. But EV's are a good transition.

Did see a good video on how OPEC+ companies are both marketing electric and the upcoming standards, while circumventing and planning against them behind the corporate curtains, which continues to subvert progress.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Toyota is proving everyone wrong with the strategy of offering hybrid technology with their cars. EV only brands making huge losses:
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
You are seriously confounding societal progress with detrimental conspiracy, and plain ol' fear.

Anywho....back in reality.


Two of the biggest issues in EV are being challenged with some recent announcements, though still nothing coming to market for a little bit. First is charge times, which a company just showcased, allowing for about 200 miles in about 10 minutes of charge. And then the other is distance overall, which solid state and gell cell batteries are doing well to address. When the two meet with fast charging for a range of around 350 to 400 miles, the EV itself will be on par with current fuel transports. I still believe hydrogen or other zero emission vehicles are the better choice, both for the environment and that progress in hydrogen production could eventually make it safe and allow consumer to produce their own energy, cutting out OPEC+ and other corporate controls and costs. But EV's are a good transition.

Did see a good video on how OPEC+ companies are both marketing electric and the upcoming standards, while circumventing and planning against them behind the corporate curtains, which continues to subvert progress.
No we had protests in every city here in Australia against digital identity, 15 minute cities and CBDC’s, mass surveillance and their attack on societal norms. Please re-check your reality.
Watch this
 
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ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
No we had protests in every city here in Australia against digital identity, 15 minute cities and CBDC’s, mass surveillance and their attack on societal norms. Please re-check your reality.
Watch this

My reality is fine. I am not afriad and think there are some good changes coming. Social norms are another way of wanting status quo and no equality.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
There are some negative social trends, without doubt, but cobbling together such trends and giving them an author called Klaus and the WEF is a foolish conspiracy theory.

I wasn't switching the topic at all. I was trying to point out the distinction between events and trends and their fanciful and erroneous interpretation. However, you just don't get it.

No you said that I was talking right wing conspiracy theory and now you want switch the topic to JFK? Either you think digital identity central bank digital currency, social credit scores and 15 minute cities are a right wing conspiracy theory or you believe it’s a real thing happening ? Which one is it Bart ?
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
There are some negative social trends, without doubt, but cobbling together such trends and giving them an author called Klaus and the WEF is a foolish conspiracy theory.

I wasn't switching the topic at all. I was trying to point out the distinction between events and trends and their fanciful and erroneous interpretation. However, you just don't get it.
Things are not a conspiracy theory when you can download and read local, state and federal government documents and policies explaining everything I have outlined.
This is the problem with you guys, it’s like when a ball lands in on a clay court, and the mark is there, but you claim it’s out and say that the mark never was there despite all the photographic and video evidence. Basically it’s all about lying followed by gaslighting people who call you out.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
My reality is fine. I am not afriad and think there are some good changes coming. Social norms are another way of wanting status quo and no equality.
There is certainly no equality in what you are advocating but more like neo feudalism.
I’d also like to know what sort of equality you are talking about because digital slavery to government and corporate collaborations is not it.
The problem is that too many people have been brainwashed into thinking that socialism/communism is somehow a good idea and creates equality. It’s the most brutal inhumane ideology and system practised on this planet,
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
You still don't get it. Yes, things like digital identity are real. Your conspiracy theory interpretation is not real. It is a right-wing ideology. Your ideology is inhumane.

There is certainly no equality in what you are advocating but more like neo feudalism.
I’d also like to know what sort of equality you are talking about because digital slavery to government and corporate collaborations is not it.
The problem is that too many people have been brainwashed into thinking that socialism/communism is somehow a good idea and creates equality. It’s the most brutal inhumane ideology and system practised on this planet,
Things are not a conspiracy theory when you can download and read local, state and federal government documents and policies explaining everything I have outlined.
This is the problem with you guys, it’s like when a ball lands in on a clay court, and the mark is there, but you claim it’s out and say that the mark never was there despite all the photographic and video evidence. Basically it’s all about lying followed by gaslighting people who call you out.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
You still don't get it. Yes, things like digital identity are real. Your conspiracy theory interpretation is not real. It is a right-wing ideology. Your ideology is inhumane.
Everybody knows that digital identity, CBDC, social credit are all measures to increase centralised government control over every aspect of our lives - it cannot be seen as anything else if the truth means anything to you and I suspect it doesn’t.
I think you are supporter of this type of thing because it’s in the playbook of Marxist Leninist thinking and people like yourself are wedded to anything that extreme totalitarians promote, whether it’s left or right.
Even people in Canada are starting to wake up to what’s been implemented by their leader who said himself that he admired the CCP. There is one town where you need to use a QR code to enter and leave the place - it’s no conspiracy and it cannot be interpreted any other way unless you want to make up more lies;
And while we are discussing the matter, you haven’t offered anything to the conversation except calling people conspiracy theorists.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
"Everybody knows" ... . You are starting with an assertion that you must prove ... not merely assume ... this is a fundamental error in argumentation.

You then go on to yet another error in argumentation ... personal attack ... and I have already defended my view that the Klaus/WEF trope is a conspiracy theory.

Everybody knows that digital identity, CBDC, social credit are all measures to increase centralised government control over every aspect of our lives - it cannot be seen as anything else if the truth means anything to you and I suspect it doesn’t.
I think you are supporter of this type of thing because it’s in the playbook of Marxist Leninist thinking and people like yourself are wedded to anything that extreme totalitarians promote, whether it’s left or right.
Even people in Canada are starting to wake up to what’s been implemented by their leader who said himself that he admired the CCP. There is one town where you need to use a QR code to enter and leave the place - it’s no conspiracy and it cannot be interpreted any other way unless you want to make up more lies;
And while we are discussing the matter, you haven’t offered anything to the conversation except calling people conspiracy theorists.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
"Everybody knows" ... . You are starting with an assertion that you must prove ... not merely assume ... this is a fundamental error in argumentation.

You then go on to yet another error in argumentation ... personal attack ... and I have already defended my view that the Klaus/WEF trope is a conspiracy theory.
You have made no points ( and never do) defending digital identity, social credit, surveillance, 15 minute cities and CBDC. Can you explain why the sweet of these measures is good for you and society ?
While we are at it, you constantly accuse people of all sorts of things but then complain when people push back. Perhaps if you soften the tone of your writing style and stick to the topic, maybe people would respond accordingly.
As far as using “everybody “, well judging by the thousands that attended the rally’s on the weekend in every capital city - people don’t like digital identity;
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
1. In Australia digital identity is purely voluntary.

2. Social credit is not yet in the West as in China.

3. Surveillance took off in the nineties so nothing to do with EVs and the like.

4. 15 minute cities are not concentration camps, but harmless urban planning.

5. Digital currencies are the endpoint of fiat currency, so not a conspiracy.

I have made all these points before so there is no point in repeating them. You are too far down the rabbit hole of interpreting this as a Klaus/WEF conspiracy.

You have made no points ( and never do) defending digital identity, social credit, surveillance, 15 minute cities and CBDC. Can you explain why the sweet of these measures is good for you and society ?
While we are at it, you constantly accuse people of all sorts of things but then complain when people push back. Perhaps if you soften the tone of your writing style and stick to the topic, maybe people would respond accordingly.
As far as using “everybody “, well judging by the thousands that attended the rally’s on the weekend in every capital city - people don’t like digital identity;
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
1. In Australia digital identity is purely voluntary.

2. Social credit is not yet in the West as in China.

3. Surveillance took off in the nineties so nothing to do with EVs and the like.

4. 15 minute cities are not concentration camps, but harmless urban planning.

5. Digital currencies are the endpoint of fiat currency, so not a conspiracy.

I have made all these points before so there is no point in repeating them. You are too far down the rabbit hole of interpreting this as a Klaus/WEF conspiracy.
1. It’s not really voluntary when there is coercion and rights withheld for not complying such as essential services. The GMO injections weren’t mandatory except you couldn’t feed your family if you didn’t comply.
2. Social credit is already in action for companies and individuals with ESG. Banks are not lending money for things that don’t fit the narrative. Personal carbon credits are coming

3. Surveillance cameras extremely ramped up in the last 3 years while people were locked in their homes. They are part of the architecture for 15 minute cities
4. I think people should be free to move around where ever they like and how many times they need to. It is not the governments right to supervise and dictate where I can go;
5. Digital currencies of a centralised nature can be programmable and we have evidence of this by having accounts frozen of individuals who disagreed with the government. I think people should be able to use cash and have privacy to use their money as they like.
This is what net zero is doing to businesses and suburbs in Australia
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
None of this is accurate. It's designed to fit your over-arching narrative.

High Street shops are shutting down due to internet shopping, not net zero.

1. It’s not really voluntary when there is coercion and rights withheld for not complying such as essential services. The GMO injections weren’t mandatory except you couldn’t feed your family if you didn’t comply.
2. Social credit is already in action for companies and individuals with ESG. Banks are not lending money for things that don’t fit the narrative. Personal carbon credits are coming

3. Surveillance cameras extremely ramped up in the last 3 years while people were locked in their homes. They are part of the architecture for 15 minute cities
4. I think people should be free to move around where ever they like and how many times they need to. It is not the governments right to supervise and dictate where I can go;
5. Digital currencies of a centralised nature can be programmable and we have evidence of this by having accounts frozen of individuals who disagreed with the government. I think people should be able to use cash and have privacy to use their money as they like.
This is what net zero is doing to businesses and suburbs in Australia
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
None of this is accurate. It's designed to fit your over-arching narrative.

High Street shops are shutting down due to internet shopping, not net zero.
Here we go - Bart refuses to accept the truth continually accusing me of being a conspiracy theorist. Everyone should watch this before it’s too late - although it may be too late already.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Banks want a cashless society because it means more profit for the capitalistic banks, not because of a Klaus/WEF conspiracy theory.

I took $5,000 cash out of my bank without the slightest problem so you will have no problem in Australia unless you've not got the funds.

Here we go - Bart refuses to accept the truth continually accusing me of being a conspiracy theorist. Everyone should watch this before it’s too late - although it may be too late already.
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Banks want a cashless society because it means more profit for the capitalistic banks, not because of a Klaus/WEF conspiracy theory.

I took $5,000 cash out of my bank without the slightest problem so you will have no problem in Australia unless you've not got the funds.
Now it’s because the globalists want it that way - one world government - Klaus even said - “Everything that can be digitised, must be digitised!”.
Free market capitalism prefers decentralised currency and cash, its socialism and fascism that wants cashless society. Trying to do what you are doing won’t wash because it makes no sense. Eat z bugs Bart
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Capitalists want to make more profits so by digitising transactions they supercharge their profit. Unfortunately, you are on the side of the big banks.

Now it’s because the globalists want it that way - one world government - Klaus even said - “Everything that can be digitised, must be digitised!”.
Free market capitalism prefers decentralised currency and cash, its socialism and fascism that wants cashless society. Trying to do what you are doing won’t wash because it makes no sense. Eat z bugs Bart
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Capitalists want to make more profits so by digitising transactions they supercharge their profit. Unfortunately, you are on the side of the big banks.
Free market capitalists, such as Tennis Warehouse offer products and services ( such as this forum ) to clients to meet their needs. In return coaches can buy nice equipment so that their clients can enjoy themselves to play tennis and pikleball. Most people in the western world function this way. Libertarian minded people like the freedom to to do their own thing and prefer to use cash and decentralised systems because they can get a whole lot more done and be more efficient. Small business people and their clients do not like CBDC’s, digital identity, 15 minute cities and social credit systems. These terrible systems are the brainchild’s of international socialists who use corporate government partnerships to control citizens at a mass scale and we are seeing these systems played out in communist, authoritarian and socialist countries first and we know that socialism is really communism with lipstick on, ands it’s based on fear, coercion and enslavement. The idea has been done at least 28 times in world history and failed every time, but this time they are having another go at tyranny via technology in the form of digitisation,
Western countries have been damaged from the inside out with this Marxist ideology in all the institutions both politically, culturally, the educational institutions and financially. You have to understand that if capitalism is replaced with global socialism there will be no pardon for people like yourself because you will be caught in the system.
Some who are aware will get out, protect themselves and have freedom but people like yourself who support all this or think that’s it’s all a conspiracy theory won’t be able to get out of the cage that is being build around them right now.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
You quoted a banker saying he wants a digital currency and now you are turning somersaults to claim banks are not to blame.

Free market capitalists, such as Tennis Warehouse offer products and services ( such as this forum ) to clients to meet their needs. In return coaches can buy nice equipment so that their clients can enjoy themselves to play tennis and pikleball. Most people in the western world function this way. Libertarian minded people like the freedom to to do their own thing and prefer to use cash and decentralised systems because they can get a whole lot more done and be more efficient. Small business people and their clients do not like CBDC’s, digital identity, 15 minute cities and social credit systems. These terrible systems are the brainchild’s of international socialists who use corporate government partnerships to control citizens at a mass scale and we are seeing these systems played out in communist, authoritarian and socialist countries first and we know that socialism is really communism with lipstick on, ands it’s based on fear, coercion and enslavement. The idea has been done at least 28 times in world history and failed every time, but this time they are having another go at tyranny via technology in the form of digitisation,
Western countries have been damaged from the inside out with this Marxist ideology in all the institutions both politically, culturally, the educational institutions and financially. You have to understand that if capitalism is replaced with global socialism there will be no pardon for people like yourself because you will be caught in the system.
Some who are aware will get out, protect themselves and have freedom but people like yourself who support all this or think that’s it’s all a conspiracy theory won’t be able to get out of the cage that is being build around them right now.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
You still don't get it. Yes, things like digital identity are real. Your conspiracy theory interpretation is not real. It is a right-wing ideology. Your ideology is inhumane.

Harkins back to old civilization seeing a comet and thinking it was some kinda sign. Lack of understanding has bread more actual issues (religion, power, politics, current media) than the conspiracy theory they concoct would cause.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
You quoted a banker saying he wants a digital currency and now you are turning somersaults to claim banks are not to blame.
Todays bankers are owned by the globalists who give the orders and the finance. A lot of local small banks will collapse now as central banks take over.
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Harkins back to old civilization seeing a comet and thinking it was some kinda sign. Lack of understanding has bread more actual issues (religion, power, politics, current media) than the conspiracy theory they concoct would cause.
Yes, it is all those things you mentioned - the religion of climate change and woke popes the power of the elites and growing government over reach, the politics of centralisation and fascist collaboration of media, corporate and government alliance. They win and get richer while you lose and get poorer, how’s that idea working for you so far ?
Now if you want to test out conspiracy theories why not look at the actual websites of councils and state governments and their policies and attend their meetings.
As far as the WEF, the January DAVOS conference is streamed online and then make up your own mind and then it’s up to you,
 
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ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Yes, it is all those things you mentioned - the religion of climate change and woke popes the power of the elites and growing government over reach, the politics of centralisation and fascist collaboration of media, corporate and government alliance. They win and get richer while you lose and get poorer, how’s that idea working for you so far ?
Now if you want to test out conspiracy theories why not look at the actual websites of councils and state governments and their policies and attend their meetings.
As far as the WEF, the January DAVOS conference is streamed online and then make up your own mind and then it’s up to you,


lol. Word salad, yummy yummy....

I read through all our local and most federal policies, bills, etc.. I follow the court cases and look at the details and history of issues. I have attended enough meetings to understand their processes.My wife would tell you I spend too much time paying attention to details and actually learning to make educated and as informed of decisions as I can.

As far as how I do....I do okay really. Which just leads me to believe, like many other conspiracy people, it is really a defense mechanism to avoid their own accountability or take blame for their lot in life, and certainly not do what it takes to improve.

See...I can just fill in what I want too.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
lol. Word salad, yummy yummy....

I read through all our local and most federal policies, bills, etc.. I follow the court cases and look at the details and history of issues. I have attended enough meetings to understand their processes.My wife would tell you I spend too much time paying attention to details and actually learning to make educated and as informed of decisions as I can.

As far as how I do....I do okay really. Which just leads me to believe, like many other conspiracy people, it is really a defense mechanism to avoid their own accountability or take blame for their lot in life, and certainly not do what it takes to improve.

See...I can just fill in what I want too.
Yes, you are right about people needing to demonstrate accountability and being responsible for their own success in life - that’s a good thing.
However I also believe that we should do balanced research and search for the truth. I have noticed in the last few years that when people call out things as conspiracy theory or people as conspiracy theorists, sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong. Conspiracy theories arise when organisations hide information.
I give the example in the video I shared before where every capital city in Australia except Adelaide had thousands March against the digital identity bill yet the whole mainstream media decided to go silent on the matter. That is disgraceful behaviour and it’s obvious they are hiding it from the people and even refusing to discuss it in parliament.
What is your view on that type of censorship?
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Only a few hundred turned up so the mainstream media decided that they'd leave the story to the far-right media, which is why you found it on Sky News.

The Digital ID Bill will be discussed in Parliament and the Senate has a blocking majority for any controversial measures if it so chooses to come together.

Yes, you are right about people needing to demonstrate accountability and being responsible for their own success in life - that’s a good thing.
However I also believe that we should do balanced research and search for the truth. I have noticed in the last few years that when people call out things as conspiracy theory or people as conspiracy theorists, sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong. Conspiracy theories arise when organisations hide information.
I give the example in the video I shared before where every capital city in Australia except Adelaide had thousands March against the digital identity bill yet the whole mainstream media decided to go silent on the matter. That is disgraceful behaviour and it’s obvious they are hiding it from the people and even refusing to discuss it in parliament.
What is your view on that type of censorship?
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Only a few hundred turned up so the mainstream media decided that they'd leave the story to the far-right media, which is why you found it on Sky News.

The Digital ID Bill will be discussed in Parliament and the Senate has a blocking majority for any controversial measures if it so chooses to come together.
False - there were thousands - see the footage
The government and mid stream media are hiding the digital identity bill. They voted in thug senate not to have a discussion about the bill and it hasn’t even gone to the lower house yet - very evil
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
I saw the footage. The crowd was pitifully small. You can't hide anything in Parliament. They may try to rush things through, but the Senate can stop this if it chooses on any issue.

I don't think you know anything about how the Australian Parliament works. The Senate amended the Bill after it went through the House, which now has to approve the amended Bill.

False - there were thousands - see the footage
The government and mid stream media are hiding the digital identity bill. They voted in thug senate not to have a discussion about the bill and it hasn’t even gone to the lower house yet - very evil
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
I saw the footage. The crowd was pitifully small. You can't hide anything in Parliament. They may try to rush things through, but the Senate can stop this if it chooses on any issue.

I don't think you know anything about how the Australian Parliament works. The Senate amended the Bill after it went through the House, which now has to approve the amended Bill.
The bill that which comprises 3 stages was rammed through the senate without debate. This particular stage of the legislation did not go to the house.
They had lots of people in all cities including in Nth Queensland. Adelaide couldn’t go ahead as they have communist laws that prevent protests going ahead. Brisbane had heaps of people.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The amended Bill makes it easier to avoid the Digital ID and to opt out of it if you later choose. The Bill returns to the House where it will be debated and presumably passed.

The bill that which comprises 3 stages was rammed through the senate without debate. This particular stage of the legislation did not go to the house.
They had lots of people in all cities including in Nth Queensland. Adelaide couldn’t go ahead as they have communist laws that prevent protests going ahead. Brisbane had heaps of people.
 

Username_

Hall of Fame
you will take ze voluntary, not forced, 25 shots and be happy on the condition you are willing to give up your ability to make an income and put food on the table
The cost of living crisis is real, but you cannot grasp its causes.
and stay within a 5km radius of your home *cough 15 minute city trial cough*
we are not forcing you but you will be arrested
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Given that you don't respect climate science then why would you care about public health science?

Yes, we had lockdowns but all we have now is one hour and fifteen-minute commutes, not fifteen-minute cities.

and stay within a 5km radius of your home *cough 15 minute city trial cough*
we are not forcing you but you will be arrested
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Given that you don't respect climate science then why would you care about public health science?

Yes, we had lockdowns but all we have now is one hour and fifteen-minute commutes, not fifteen-minute cities.
Disagree with both of your points.
1. Not only do you don’t respect or understand the science but you completely have it wrong about public health. If you did understand these things, you wouldn’t be saying the things you do. A lot of people have left Victoria as a result of the things you support and other states are performing better. Must be the first time in history that Brisbane has a higher median price than Melbourne. Even Canberra is ahead;

2. The problem with the property market and living in cities is a problem planned by agenda 21 ( which is now called agenda 30) net zero policies designed by globalists as a globalist plan for one work’s government surveillance wish list agenda. Canada with its Marxist leader is experiencing the same problem, as is globalist lover and CBCD advocate Rishi Sunak.

The reason why you don’t understand this is because everything to you is a conspiracy theory which is a lazy way of saying, “ I don’t like to have an open mind because it might upset my comrades ”. Maybe a Stalinka style home unit with complete surveillance is what you deserve, so that maybe then you might reconsider your views - at least the drones and cameras there can keep you in check.
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Follow the science Bart and watch how stupid renewables can sometimes be to the planet. Btw, Marxists and socialists don’t care about individuals, families and communities. they only care about themselves and leach off other people’s money.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
You reduced lockdowns to Victoria because that was the Sky News line, which is conspiracy-central.

And the housing crisis is due to the huge tax benefits to invest in housing that make homes unaffordable.

Disagree with both of your points.
1. Not only do you don’t respect or understand the science but you completely have it wrong about public health. If you did understand these things, you wouldn’t be saying the things you do. A lot of people have left Victoria as a result of the things you support and other states are performing better. Must be the first time in history that Brisbane has a higher median price than Melbourne. Even Canberra is ahead;

2. The problem with the property market and living in cities is a problem planned by agenda 21 ( which is now called agenda 30) net zero policies designed by globalists as a globalist one work’s government wish list agenda. Canada with its Marxist leader is experiencing the same problem, as is globalist Sunak.

The reason why you don’t understand this is because everything to you is a conspiracy theory which is a lazy way of saying, “ I don’t like to learn”. Maybe a Stalinka style home unit with complete surveillance is what you deserve - at least the drones and cameras there can keep the rear of us safe.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
People need to understand that all the rules, restrictions and regulations planned by the elites for the people don’t apply to themselves.
It’s nothing new, it’s always been like this in the past when a country has been organised as a centralised system with a top - down approach. You will be voluntarily forced to adhere to strict personal carbon usage amount. They will tell you that it’s voluntary and opt in ( like digital identity ) but the truth is that you won’t be allowed to do anything unless you comply or have that green tick on your smart phone.
The elite meanwhile - who will own everything- because you won’t own anything after inflation has made everything unaffordable and you are broke and your job has been taken by AI, and you will be voluntarily forced to rent a house and EV ( which will only work if you continually comply with their opt in demands) , these elites will be flying around everywhere and living in luxury while the masses will be drugged up, given VR games to play and rationed on a universal basic income.
 

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G.O.A.T.
You reduced lockdowns to Victoria because that was the Sky News line, which is conspiracy-central.

And the housing crisis is due to the huge tax benefits to invest in housing that make homes unaffordable.
Truth is that Melbourne had the longest lockdowns in the world and people are damaged as a result. Businesses have been destroyed and lives , and people’s morale gutted with increased suicide and violence as a result. That’s why many moved out of Victoria and this is the truth back up by solid evidence.
Houses like any commodity is governed by supply and demand . Investors increase the productivity of the property market by building new homes and stimulating transactions so that people have more places to live. More supply means lower prices, particularly if the type of properties being build appeals to Australians. Australians like to live in houses with backyards, not sardine like high rises that the climate cult want to enforce on people. This is the truth.
Raising taxes to build and own homes plus green, red, and blue regulations and restrictions suppress supply making property availability more scarce and this along with intentional uncontrolled mass immigration has made living in cities unaffordable. This is not just an Australian thing but is evident in all countries that signed up to the dystopian climate agenda. None of this centralised socialism stuff makes sense and always ends in chaos and failure, which off course is exactly what they want.
 
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