Nadal days in the top 10 numbered
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VikingSamurai
Banned
Well it doesn't say alot when he gets to the semi's after playing no-one of importance, and then gets spanked by a nobody of any importance..
I think if Rafa just played tennis he would be fine.. But this is the first time that I have seen the guy up close with his quirks.. (people have talked about it, but I have never seen it as we usually only get highlights here in Japan of matches.. But now that I have been able to watch the AO, I have been watching him from the time he leave the locker room till the time he finishes his match. And the guy is strange)
The way he always sucks on something before the match, the way he sets his bottles up. The way he runs to the center of the court for the coin toss ect ect.. Everything he does is pre-recorded, and I think that it is showing in his tennis.. He is unable to change with the match, and so it shows in the way he thinks out there.. Too superstitious for my liking.. I think the reason he has been so fortunate (especially on clay) is because he annoyes and wears his opponents down.. I think now people have woken up to him and just play their own game and it is starting to show..
I think if Rafa just played tennis he would be fine.. But this is the first time that I have seen the guy up close with his quirks.. (people have talked about it, but I have never seen it as we usually only get highlights here in Japan of matches.. But now that I have been able to watch the AO, I have been watching him from the time he leave the locker room till the time he finishes his match. And the guy is strange)
The way he always sucks on something before the match, the way he sets his bottles up. The way he runs to the center of the court for the coin toss ect ect.. Everything he does is pre-recorded, and I think that it is showing in his tennis.. He is unable to change with the match, and so it shows in the way he thinks out there.. Too superstitious for my liking.. I think the reason he has been so fortunate (especially on clay) is because he annoyes and wears his opponents down.. I think now people have woken up to him and just play their own game and it is starting to show..
leonidas1982
Hall of Fame
I am at times surprised at his run at the number 2 position. Although, apart from Federer, he is the only other person to win a slam, and frequent Masters Series (clay courts); I suppose that factors into his ranking points.
isuk@tennis
Rookie
not when there are so many clay courts in a year he's not going out of top 10 for awhile
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
Nadal actually made it the farthest he ever has in a hard-court slam, so I hardly see why his days are numbered. 
Just because Tsonga played UNBELEIVABLE tennis does not mean that Nadal is fading.
Just because Tsonga played UNBELEIVABLE tennis does not mean that Nadal is fading.
How about making it to the Wimbledon final?
leonidas1982
Hall of Fame
Wimbledon was in June. He hasn't done much since then. He looked healthy in the AO compared to how he was towards the second half of 2007. He is a favourite for the French, but can he make it to another Wimbledon final?
11 posts on this thread and 0 (maybe i missed 1 ) show any decent reasoning. tsonga will join rafa in the top 10, where he belongs. he moves like federer but more explosively. his serve is the heaviest in the game and his groundies are up there too. rafa is a particularly good match up for him (familiar from the juniors and a high ball for him to hit down with his flat groundies), but tsonga had the toughest road to the semis also. sit back and enjoy the next contender for #1.
) show any decent reasoning. tsonga will join rafa in the top 10, where he belongs. he moves like federer but more explosively. his serve is the heaviest in the game and his groundies are up there too. rafa is a particularly good match up for him (familiar from the juniors and a high ball for him to hit down with his flat groundies), but tsonga had the toughest road to the semis also. sit back and enjoy the next contender for #1.God I am sick of listening to people like you. The Nadal fanatics are bad enough, without the Nadal haters making total asses of themselves. Nadal's days are numbered? Are you kidding me? He will OWN the clay court season, and he has made the final at wimbledon twice.
superman1
Legend
You must have the intelligence of a pea. My post was in no way an attack on Nadal. In fact, I even said that all the people that own him on hard court would get owned by him on clay. I didn't say it outright, but if you knew how to read you would have gotten it. Try again.
leonidas1982
Hall of Fame
Certainly, outside clay, Nadal is owned. Should one create a list: Nalbandian, Blake, Djokovic, Tsonga. Any others?
FedForGOAT
Professional
11 posts on this thread and 0 (maybe i missed 1
Someone is jumping on the bandwagon a bit early, I'd say. Let me guess, in 06' you said baggy had the biggest forehand in the game.
Heavy Metal Tennis Star
Professional
rafa will still be a fo and wimby finalist this year
Heavy Metal Tennis Star
Professional
pwn3d!!!!!!!!!
MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
Legend
This thread is really stupid, Nadal might have lost that match earlier today, but not all human players can put up those types of numbers against that boy. Hard courts isn't his best surface, but he competes with what he has. What some people are forgetting is the terror he is on clay courts.
MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
Legend
Agreed, 100%.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
I don't understand why Nadal always has to get hated on.
you simply don't know tennis if you doubt tsonga is a top 10 player.
Gut Reaction
Banned
You got it
WhiteSox05CA
Hall of Fame
It's just ONE match. You can't tell anything this early. I'm not a big Rafa supporter, but it's true. I think he'll win the FO, but probably not get back to the Wimbledon final.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I'm not buying it, and I'm not even a Nadal fan.
Tsonga was a particularly bad matchup for him. And, Tsonga was playing out of his freakin mind. It's just one of those days when Nadal has to say "too good", which he did.
Nadal is still a great player, just like Henin is still a great player after getting absolutely killed by Sharapova.
I'd wait a while before I write him off.
Tsonga was a particularly bad matchup for him. And, Tsonga was playing out of his freakin mind. It's just one of those days when Nadal has to say "too good", which he did.
Nadal is still a great player, just like Henin is still a great player after getting absolutely killed by Sharapova.
I'd wait a while before I write him off.
I'm also willing to bet that he isn't. I'm still amazed that he got there there last year and the year before.
Nadal still got to the semis of the AO so I see no signs yet of dropping out of the top 10. Lets see if his body can hold up. If it does then I don't see him dropping anything lower than 4 by the end of the year. And don't forget how many points he will get (if healthy) during the clay season.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Players that win by grinding out matches like Hewitt, Chang, and Nadal have a tendency to burn out at an early age because their bodies just can't take it much longer, and Nadal's knees are about to give out any day now. I'm not sure how much longer he can keep up this level.
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
11 posts on this thread and 0 (maybe i missed 1
*cough*
that was hilarious. for a minute, i thought you were serious.
Nadal's game is not meant for HC. so what does that say about him? he's way better than anyone is giving him credit for. he wins on clay like he does for a reason; he's a great tennis player. he may not be a magician like federer or a ball striker like tsonga, but he can run his ass off the face of the earth. and then run back on it.
but this is stupid, "nadal's days are numbered b/c he got his best HC result ever!" "ZOMG no more Wimbledon Final for him!"
no. wrong. he's one of the best grass players. otherwise he wouldnt have been able to challenge federer. granted, it was just one of those days where fed was'nt up to snuff. but still, it was wimbledon. he has been off before and straight setted (sp?) people, so we know Nadal is at least good on Grass, if we can't say Great.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Lol @ nadals knees are about to give out any day now.... man you're a little extreme. He got spanked but he isn't injured.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
He had trouble with his knees for most of last year's hardcourt season. Did you see that he still has those knee bands on during the AO? I'm sure that contributed to Nalbandian spanking him twice in two Master's events at the end of last year.
I guess it does...it's growing.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Hey that is a smart thing he is doing. I don't think his knees are that bad but he is making sure they don't become bad.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
That was last year.... this is 08... he is being smart.
That hardcourt was EXACTLY what Nadal needed. A super slow surface, intense heat, and decent bounces. Nadal has shown that he can deal with low bouncing balls as long as the surface isn't too bad. The odds were all stacked in Nadal's favor, and he got blown off the court.
anyone thinking nadal is a top 5 favorite at wimbledon better expect an "upset" in a few months. i was talking about tsonga's serve and groundies, if you disagree you are blind and/or haven't seen him play. he has been seriously injured for 2 years, it is no surprise to anyone knowledgable that tsonga is playing top 10 (top 4 at the moment) tennis.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Wrong. The decent bounces help out the flat hitters along with the footwork. Nadal relies on his opponents not being on fire and being able to tire them out. The night time also didn't help Nadal as the bounces are lower at that time.
GOD_BLESS_RAFA
Semi-Pro
Tsonga is not the first player to beat Nadal on hard courts ...Blake beat Nadal in 2006 (not sure) maybe but he is still n°2 now Youznhy did it many times ...
I will take this loss as a good warning...if I were Nadal...
The season has just started...to lose a match does not mean to lose ranking (n° 2) VAMOS!!
Youznhy did it many times ...I will take this loss as a good warning...if I were Nadal...
The season has just started...to lose a match does not mean to lose ranking (n° 2) VAMOS!!
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BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Unless his knees give out soon.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Same applies to any of the top players. Lame comment.
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