Henin's new pj...
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h7hugo
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Richie Rich
Legend
at least they didn't give her the kblade pj on a racquet with PWS
10nisDude~
Semi-Pro
^ haha tru...but i dont clearly see the power sliding things...but i saw them in one pic b4
have the ncode tour 2
heard when henin played with tht model(ncode tour 2 ) it was actually apaint job, i sorta figured as much coz when i compared mine to a pic with henin holding what looked like an tour 2, the dimensions were all wrong, folks in the forums differentiated them by saying her PJ had power holes. not real familiar with old models, so heres my question, what are power holes? what do they look like? etc
heard when henin played with tht model(ncode tour 2 ) it was actually apaint job, i sorta figured as much coz when i compared mine to a pic with henin holding what looked like an tour 2, the dimensions were all wrong, folks in the forums differentiated them by saying her PJ had power holes. not real familiar with old models, so heres my question, what are power holes? what do they look like? etc
shell
Professional
powerholes are the elongated holes at 3 and 9 o'clock on some Wilson racquets that supposedly allow the strings to flex with the impact of the ball and catapult the ball forward with more power. JH uses a Hyper Hammer 5.3 stretch with powerholes, the same stick she has played with for many years.
shell
Professional
Because they find what works for them when they are young and don't want to mess with a winning formula...it ain't the racquet that makes them great!
lacoster
Professional
Here's a pic of the Wilson Hammer 6.4 Stretch OS, when Wilson introduced the technology back in 1997. It was also the frame Serena Williams used to win her first Grand Slam at the US Open in '98...You can clearly see the powerholes at 3, 9 and 12 positions of the head. The 'power'-holes did just exactly that...give more 'power.' It had an extreme trampoline effect on the ball. Playtests and user feedback revealed a sense of uncontrollable power, which is why it was eventually discontinued.
http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/jm/img?s=MLA&f=27278902_7001.jpg&v=P
Sure, Henin's using the [K]Tour. Hers just has a different mold and different specs.
I mean, honestly, what defines a racquet as a certain racquet? Is it the paint, the mold, the specs?
Serve n' Volley
Semi-Pro
I have the exact same racquet...but I don't really use it.
Mr. Adidas
New User
I wonder when it will be available, you would think it would have come out with all the others...
CGMemphis
Rookie
No lying, that argument wouldn't hold up in court. No offense meant, but they aren't saying that the Wilson Model #ABC123 is her model, the brand name is, thats all. Thats their point of view and they are sticking to it.
Go look at the jr kiddy racquet's on the wall of your pro shop/sporting goods store, Feds face, Williams Sisters faces, Agassi is still on them..they dont play with those racquet's...its just their brand, the faces and names sell the brand
short dialogue between Henin and myself in summer 2006:
JH: "I use this racket since 7 or 8 years and this string since more than 10 years - and I feel good with it!"
jura: "Did you ever tried something else?"
JH: "No! And I don't want to!"
With a different mold and different specs it's a different racket!
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"oder"? Justine speaks German?
allrightguy
Rookie
any idea when the ktour 2 is coming out?
racquet_jedi
Professional
Maybe sometime after the 1st Ktour comes out, which it hasn't quite yet...:wink::wink:
ericsson
Hall of Fame
Sorry - I shouldn't write in English and speak in German at the same time!
crazylevity
Hall of Fame
The new paintjob looks sweet...
That said I don't think I'd like a racquet of her specs. If only Fed got her paintjobs, now THAT would be cool.
That said I don't think I'd like a racquet of her specs. If only Fed got her paintjobs, now THAT would be cool.
roller~
Rookie
qwerty2009
Banned
So...
Henin uses anabolic steriods and she coats her strings with cocaine?
Henin uses anabolic steriods and she coats her strings with cocaine?
No lying, that argument wouldn't hold up in court. No offense meant, but they aren't saying that the Wilson Model #ABC123 is her model, the brand name is, thats all. Thats their point of view and they are sticking to it.
Go look at the jr kiddy racquet's on the wall of your pro shop/sporting goods store, Feds face, Williams Sisters faces, Agassi is still on them..they dont play with those racquet's...its just their brand, the faces and names sell the brand
I consider it false advertising when a kid buys a racket because they believe their favorite player uses it when in fact the only thing in common is the paint and usually (not always) the company. Your example for kiddie rackets holds up but what about the full size models? Sure the kids shouldn't be buying rackets because their favorite player uses it and you could say that's their fault for buying because of it but it still falls under false advertising.
prostringer
New User
when i was stringing the nasdaq in 2005...i picked up her racquet...no power holes in that one, but i remember seeing it at wimbledon in 2003 and it had power holes.
CGMemphis
Rookie
Before we go any further, let me just say this. I agree with you to some point, but wouldnt call it false advertising, I would call it unfair.
Federer has become the face of Wilson, Agassi (eventhough retired) Head, shoot Graf is on Heads Racquets because of him.
Its about branding. Go into a Pro Shop or a high end sporting goods retail store. Count how many racquets have Feds face on them, you really think a 15 yo is going to get confused? Im talking the full-size models.
Legal side, for marketing purposes, which is why I made my response in the first place, its branding for the face of the company. In all honesty, they dont care what we think or the players as long as that stencil and pj is on Feds racequet right before he hoists another trophy.
I don't know which racket you picked up but surely not Henins. I hold her racket at the French Open 2005 and strung it at a tournament in summer 2006 - and both times it had Power Holes. Also all pics of her whole career show the Power Holes.
String|Guru
Banned
So how are you damaged by not getting to use the same racquet as Justine Henin? Should I sue Honda b/c my Prelude isn't the same as the F-1 racer?
Rickson
G.O.A.T.
CGMemphis
Rookie
Is your 15 yo looking to buy a Prelude that has Federers face on the window? :wink:
10nisDude~
Semi-Pro
the pj...eehh when i keep looking at it...but a racquet is it racquet...
h7hugo
Rookie
http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/photo?s...75f-getty-tennis-aus-atp-wta-henin&prov=getty
look to a different angle of the racquet
enjoy!!
look to a different angle of the racquet
enjoy!!
@ce
Rookie
Jura, do you know the flex rating of her racquet? The stock 5.3 shows with a flex of 75 and I'm just wondering if her racquets are that stiff?
racquet_jedi
Professional
Salsa_Lover
Rookie
I am pretty sure Sponge Bob and Dora the Explorer actually use the same Wilson kid rackets
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Deleted member 19728
Guest
At least in the U.S. if you want to sue someone you need an actual personal injury. How were you injured by her using a pj? Even if you can think of something the damages would be nominal- which means--- no lawyer on earth is going to take this case!
hyogen
Hall of Fame
i believe you're mistaken. I believe it's the hammer 5.2 stretch. the 5.3 stretch IS available on TW to buy. check out its specs... like ridiculous stiffness 78ra... if you look at the 5.2 stretch specs they're very comparable to the Ntour-2 and Ktour. The TW warehouse also compares them to the old Htour and hammer 5.2
hyogen
Hall of Fame
isn't it the 5.2 jura ? and didn't she use the Htour paintjob..then the ntour two, then the Ktour?
HH 5.3 Stretch with PH
On this racket she used all following pj's: HH 5.2, H Tour, nTour, nTour Two and now the kTour.
