WCT Tournaments.

Guys, I saw in other threads that you know much about the WCT events. Have you a list of the tornaments with the winners (and dates of course)? I know just a little: like a posted in another thread, the ATP don't "count" the WCT Challenge Cup played along the 70's. Thank you!

llgc8080 said:

Guys, I saw in other threads that you know much about the WCT events. Have you a list of the tornaments with the winners (and dates of course)? I know just a little: like a posted in another thread, the ATP don't "count" the WCT Challenge Cup played along the 70's. Thank you!

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Have a look at the following page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Championship_Tennis

Thank you micce!!!

I found this in a pdf file from ATP; for 1976:

LAST DAY TOURNAMENT SINGLES WINNER SINGLES FINALIST
Jan. 11 Dispatch Charities (Columbus) Arthur Ashe Andrew Pattison
Jan. 11 Copa Serfin (Monterrey) Eddie Dibbs Harold Solomon B.
Jan. 18 Merchants Bank (Indianapolis) Arthur Ashe Vitas Gerulaitis
Jan. 18 Phoenix Cup (Atlanta) Ilie Nastase Jeff Borowiak
Feb. 1 U.S. Pro Indoor (Philadelphia) Jimmy Connors Bjorn Borg
Feb. 8 United Virginia Bank (Richmond) Arthur Ashe Brian Gottfried
Feb. 8 Banca Catalana (Barcelona) Eddie Dibbs Cliff Drysdale
Feb. 15 Rothmans (Toronto) Bjorn Borg Vitas Gerulaitis
Feb. 15 Lagos, Nigeria Dick Stockton Arthur Ashe
Feb. 22 Copa Puma (Rome) Arthur Ashe Bob Lutz
Feb. 22 St. Louis Classic Guillermo Vilas Vijay Amritraj
Feb. 29 ABN (Rotterdam) Arthur Ashe Bob Lutz
Feb. 29 Robintech (Fort Worth) Guillermo Vilas Phil Dent
Mar. 14 Racquet Club (Memphis) Vijay Amritraj Stan Smith
Mar. 14 Old Spice (Mexico City) Raul Ramirez Eddie Dibbs
Mar. 21 Tennis South Invitational (Jackson) Ken Rosewall Raul Ramirez
Mar. 21 Washington, D.C. Harold Solomon Onny Parun
Apr. 4 Altamira (Caracas) Raul Ramirez Ilie Nastase
Apr. 4 Copersucar (Sao Paulo) Bjorn Borg Guillermo Vilas
Apr. 11 Clows Classic (Johannesburg) Onny Parun Cliff Drysdale
Apr. 11 River Oaks (Houston) Harold Solomon Ken Rosewall
Apr. 18 Marlboro Classic (Monte Carlo) Guillermo Vilas Wojtek Fibak
Apr. 18 NCNB (Charlotte) Tony Roche Vitas Gerulaitis
Apr. 24 Opel (Stockholm) Wojtek Fibak Ilie Nastase
Apr. 25 United Bank Classic (Denver) Jimmy Connors Ross Case
May 9 WCT Finals (Dallas) Bjorn Borg Guillermo Vilas
May 3 WCT Challenge Cup (Honolulu) Ilie Nastase Arthur Ashe
Dec. 19 WCT Challenge Cup (Las Vegas) Ilie Nastase Jimmy Connors

And for 1975:

LAST DAY TOURNAMENT SINGLES WINNER SINGLES FINALIST
Jan. 26 U.S. Pro Indoor Championships (Philadelphia) Marty Riessen Vitas Gerulaitis
Feb. 2 Richmond Tennis Classic Bjorn Borg Arthur Ashe
Feb. 9 Havatampa-Raymond James Tennis Classic Raul Ramirez Roscoe Tanner
(St. Petersburg)
Feb. 12 WCT International (Bologna) Bjorn Borg Arthur Ashe
Feb. 16 Rothmans International (Toronto) Harold Solomon Stan Smith
Feb. 23 Michelob Pro-Celebrity (LaCosta) Rod Laver Allan Stone
Feb. 23 Banca Catalana (Barcelona) Arthur Ashe Bjorn Borg
Feb. 23 Robintech Classic (Fort Worth) John Alexander Dick Stockton
Mar. 2 San Antonio Tennis Classic Dick Stockton Stan Smith
Mar. 2 Algemene Bank Nederland (Rotterdam) Arthur Ashe Tom Okker
Mar. 8 Rothmans International Trophy (London) Mark Cox Brian Fairlie
Mar. 16 Xerox Tennis Classic (Washington, D.C.) Mark Cox Dick Stockton
Mar. 16 Munich International (Munich) Arthur Ashe Bjorn Borg
Mar. 16 Cospersucar (Sao Paulo) Rod Laver Charlie Pasarell
Mar. 23 Memphis Classic Harold Solomon Jiri Hrebec D
Mar. 23 Altamira International (Caracas) Rod Laver Raul Ramirez
Mar. 30 Marlboro Classic (Monte Carlo) Manuel Orantes Bob Hewitt
Mar. 30 First National Bank Classic (Atlanta) Mark Cox John Alexander
Mar. 30 WCT Classic (Orlando) Rod Laver Vitas Gerulaitis
Apr. 13 St. Louis Classic Vitas Gerulaitis Roscoe Tanner
Apr. 19 Clows Classic (Johannesburg) Buster Mottram Tom Okker
Apr. 20 United Bank Tennis Classic (Denver) Jimmy Connors Brian Gottfried
Apr. 20 Kawasaki Classic (Tokyo) Bob Lutz Stan Smith
Apr. 27 River Oaks-American General Invitational (Houston) Ken Rosewall Cliff Drysdale
Apr. 27 Open International Tennis Cup (Stockholm) Arthur Ashe Tom Okker
Apr. 27 NCNB Tennis Classic (Charlotte) Raul Ramirez Roscoe Tanner
May 11 WCT Finals (Dallas) Arthur Ashe Bjorn Borg

For 1974:

LAST DAY TOURNAMENT SINGLES WINNER SINGLES FINALIST
Jan. 27 U.S. Pro Indoor (Philadelphia) Rod Laver Arthur Ashe
Feb. 3 Fidelity Tournament (Richmond) Ilie Nastase Tom Gorman
Feb. 10 St. Petersburg, Russia John Newcombe Alex Metreveli
Feb. 17 Rothmans (Toronto) Tom Okker Ilie Nastase
Feb. 17 Astor Cup (Bologna) Arthur Ashe Mark Cox
Feb. 24 Hempstead, N.Y. Stan Smith John Newcombe
Feb. 24 Rothmans (London) Bjorn Borg Mark Cox
Mar. 3 Saga Bay Classic (Miami) Cliff Drysdale Tom Gorman
Mar. 3 La Costa John Newcombe Stan Smith
Mar. 3 Barcelona Arthur Ashe Bjorn Borg
Mar. 17 Washington, D.C. Ilie Nastase Tom Okker
Mar. 17 Sao Paulo Bjorn Borg Arthur Ashe
Mar. 31 Rotterdam Tom Okker Tom Gorman
Mar. 31 Atlanta Dick Stockton Jiri Hrebec
Mar. 31 Palm Desert Rod Laver Roscoe Tanner
Apr. 7 Munich Frew McMillan Niki Pilic
Apr. 7 New Orleans John Newcombe Jeff Borowiak
Apr. 14 Monte Carlo Andrew Pattison Ilie Nastase
Apr. 14 Orlando John Newcombe Jaime Fillol
Apr. 14 Tokyo Rod Laver Juan Gisbert
Apr. 21 Johannesburg Andrew Pattison John Alexander
Apr. 21 Charlotte Jeff Borowiak Dick Stockton
Apr. 21 Houston Rod Laver Bjorn Borg
Apr. 28 St. Louis Stan Smith Alex Metreveli I.
Apr. 28 Denver Roscoe Tanner Arthur Ashe
May 12 WCT Finals (Dallas) John Newcombe Bjorn Borg

For 1977:

LAST DAY TOURNAMENT SINGLES WINNER SINGLES FINALIST
Jan. 16 Birmingham International Indoor Championships Jimmy Connors Bill Scanlon
Jan. 30 U.S. Pro Indoor Championships (Philadelphia) Dick Stockton Jimmy Connors
Feb. 6 United Virginia Bank Classic (Richmond) Tom Okker Vitas Gerulaitis
Feb. 13 Copa Old Spice (Mexico City) Ilie Nastase Wojtek Fibak
Feb. 20 Rothmans International (Toronto) Dick Stockton Jimmy Connors
Mar. 8 Copa Serfin (Monterrey) Wojtek Fibak Vitas Gerulaitis
Mar. 20 St. Louis Classic Jimmy Connors John Alexander
Apr. 3 ABN World Tennis (Rotterdam) Dick Stockton Ilie Nastase
Apr. 3 World Series of Tennis (London) Eddie Dibbs Vitas Gerulaitis
Apr. 10 International Classic (Monte Carlo) Bjorn Borg Corrado Barazzutti
Apr. 18 River Oaks/Alexander & Alexander (Houston) Adriano Panatta Vitas Gerulaitis
Apr. 24 Big Boy Classic (Charlotte) Corrado Barazzutti Eddie Dibbs
May 15 WCT Finals (Dallas) Jimmy Connors Dick Stockton
Sept. 17 Shakey’s Tournament of Champions (New York) Harold Solomon Ken Rosewall
Nov. 20 WCT Challenge Cup (Las Vegas) Jimmy Connors Roscoe Tanner

78
Dec. 9 WCT Challenge Cup (Montreal) $320,000 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors

79
Dec. 14 WCT Challenge Cup (Montreal) $320,000 John McEnroe Vijay Amritraj

1978
Dec. 17 WCT Challenge Cup (Montego Bay) $320,000 Ilie Nastase d. Peter Fleming

I'd made a mistake, tournaments won by Borg and McEnroe were in 79 and 80, not in 78 and 79.

The regular WCT events, which lead to the WCT finals at Dallas (they should originally be played at MSG New York) were 20 in 1971, with Laver, Rosewall, Newcombe each winning 4. Laver finished first in the points table with Okker second and Rosewall third, Ashe, Drysdale, Newcombe, Rissen and Lutz behind them. Newcombe was injured for the later part of the season. In 1972, the last 10 of 1971 and new 10 events counted for the WCT finals, now played in May. Laver (with 5 new wins) again finished first with Rosewall second. Then they played an autumn circuit with finals at Rome. Newcombe was the point leader, and Ashe the finals winner. In 1973, two groups were operating from January to May with 11 events for each group. Smith won one group (over Laver), Rosewall and Ashe the second. In 1974 three groups played. One was won by Newcombe over Smith, one by Ashe over Laver, Borg, Kodes. In 1975, three groups were operating, one won by Ashe over Borg, one by Laver, one by Riessen (i think). While they were reduced to play from January to May by an agreement with the ITF, WCT overexpanded with its separate groups.Both factors contributed to its ultimate downfall.

urban said:

The regular WCT events, which lead to the WCT finals at Dallas (they should originally be played at MSG New York) were 20 in 1971, with Laver, Rosewall, Newcombe each winning 4. Laver finished first in the points table with Okker second and Rosewall third, Ashe, Drysdale, Newcombe, Rissen and Lutz behind them. Newcombe was injured for the later part of the season. In 1972, the last 10 of 1971 and new 10 events counted for the WCT finals, now played in May. Laver (with 5 new wins) again finished first with Rosewall second. Then they played an autumn circuit with finals at Rome. Newcombe was the point leader, and Ashe the finals winner. In 1973, two groups were operating from January to May with 11 events for each group. Smith won one group (over Laver), Rosewall and Ashe the second. In 1974 two groups played. One was won by Newcombe over Smith, one by Ashe over Laver, Borg, Kodes. In 1975, three groups were operating, one won by Ashe over Borg, one by Laver, one by Riessen (i think). While they were reduced to play from January to May by an agreement with the ITF, WCT overexpanded with its separate groups.Both factors contributed to its ultimate downfall.

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To add context. I believe a major part of the allure of the WCT events was big prize money. That may, if I recall correctly, also had something to do with the downfall as I believe TV and ticket revenues could not keep up. Lamar Hunt was the big backer and likey used much of his own money to finance the WCT. I also vaguely remember certain players did not like to play those events. Did some players boycott or refuse to play WCT?

Lamar Hunt got into tennis in 1967, when he founded the pro group WCT, the 'handsome eight', with Newcombe, Roche, Drysdale, Pilic and others. The fisrt years 68 and 69 were financial failures, but since 1970, when he attracted other pros like Laver, Rosewall, Ashe and Okker, his WCT became a big success. It was the first well organized pro series over the whole world, with a real points race (20 events with 32 draws minimum), real good prize money and big TV coverage. His impact was great, but conflicted with the interests of the ITF and ATP. Both rivalling organizations (not the least Jack Kramer himself) tried all they could to shut Hunt and WCT out of the game. They reduced the WCT series to a spring series from January to May, and tried to keep leading players away from the WCT. In the early 80s, the WCT series faded away with only 16 men draws (but still big money).

llgc8080 said:

78
Dec. 9 WCT Challenge Cup (Montreal) $320,000 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors — —
79
Dec. 14 WCT Challenge Cup (Montreal) $320,000 John McEnroe Vijay Amritraj — —

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Does anyone have more complete results for the first event listed here? I can't find anything about Borg winning in Montreal in 1978. It says he won there in 1979 in numerous places, including ITF and Wikipedia.

llgc8080 said:

I'd made a mistake, tournaments won by Borg and McEnroe were in 79 and 80, not in 78 and 79.

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Look this Cyborg, my mistake.

double post.

llgc8080 said:

Look this Cyborg, my mistake.

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Ah, thanks. You should be able to edit your posts, btw.

Yeah, maybe.

Thanks for the info! What is btw CyBorg?

garcia_doomer said:

Thanks for the info! What is btw CyBorg?

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By the way.

CyBorg said:

Does anyone have more complete results for the first event listed here? I can't find anything about Borg winning in Montreal in 1978. It says he won there in 1979 in numerous places, including ITF and Wikipedia.

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Borg didn't win in Montreal in 1978. He won the WCT Challenge Cup in Montreal on 4-9 December 1979.

Results
SF Borg d. Tim Gullikson 63 62
SF Connors d. Gildemeister 46 60 63

Final
Borg d. Connors 64 62 26 64

AndrewTas said:

Borg didn't win in Montreal in 1978. He won the WCT Challenge Cup in Montreal on 4-9 December 1979.

Results
SF Borg d. Tim Gullikson 63 62
SF Connors d. Gildemeister 46 60 63

Final
Borg d. Connors 64 62 26 64

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I know this, which is why I said that he won in 1979 and not in 1978.

CyBorg said:

I know this, which is why I said that he won in 1979 and not in 1978.

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btw CyBorg, being a internet surfer don't make you a tennis master.
Keep with wiki, itf and atp web pages, maybe you learn a little bit! At least I go to all events played in my country, and see ALIVE all the matches. Come to Paris and I'll kick your a.. in my tennis club, cuase I'm pretty sure that you never pick up a raquet in your life. :evil:

And you can edit your posts with at least 60 published. I can't do that before.

It's true that WCT events don't count with points to ATP?
The WCT had a winner by year like the Grand Prix? Can anyone help me with the info?
Thank you urban & andfor!

llgc8080 said:

It's true that WCT events don't count with points to ATP?
The WCT had a winner by year like the Grand Prix? Can anyone help me with the info?
Thank you urban & andfor!

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I vaguely remember something to that effect. Urban most likely will know.

Are you writing a paper or something?

andfor said:

I vaguely remember something to that effect. Urban most likely will know.

Are you writing a paper or something?

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Yes! I write in a local newspaper, only about tennis -I live 10km from Paris, in a very small town (900 people!)-. I wish that people don't think only in Roger, Rafa or Nole. Thank you anyway &4!

It's true that WCT events don't count with points to ATP?
The WCT had a winner by year like the Grand Prix?

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Yes, its true the WCT events(& the Masters) did not count for atp ranking. And the WCT did have their own rankings as well.

And then the Grand Prix had their own ranking as well.

It really was chaos back then.

llgc8080 said:

Yes! I write in a local newspaper, only about tennis -I live 10km from Paris, in a very small town (900 people!)-. I wish that people don't think only in Roger, Rafa or Nole. Thank you anyway &4!

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Very cool. Send me a link when you can so I can read some of your published material. Post it here or send it to me e-mail from my profile if you can.

Very soon we'll be on the net! The first thing I do it's let you know, I promise!

Thank you Moose too.

urban said:

The regular WCT events, which lead to the WCT finals at Dallas (they should originally be played at MSG New York) were 20 in 1971, with Laver, Rosewall, Newcombe each winning 4. Laver finished first in the points table with Okker second and Rosewall third, Ashe, Drysdale, Newcombe, Rissen and Lutz behind them. Newcombe was injured for the later part of the season. In 1972, the last 10 of 1971 and new 10 events counted for the WCT finals, now played in May. Laver (with 5 new wins) again finished first with Rosewall second. Then they played an autumn circuit with finals at Rome. Newcombe was the point leader, and Ashe the finals winner. In 1973, two groups were operating from January to May with 11 events for each group. Smith won one group (over Laver), Rosewall and Ashe the second. In 1974 two groups played. One was won by Newcombe over Smith, one by Ashe over Laver, Borg, Kodes. In 1975, three groups were operating, one won by Ashe over Borg, one by Laver, one by Riessen (i think). While they were reduced to play from January to May by an agreement with the ITF, WCT overexpanded with its separate groups.Both factors contributed to its ultimate downfall.

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urban, can you give the winners in points in the next years? Thanks.

llgc8080 said:

urban, can you give the winners in points in the next years? Thanks.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Championship_Tennis

Scroll to the bottom of the page. It that what you're looking for? As with all information on the web, double check it with another source.

llgc8080 said:

It's true that WCT events don't count with points to ATP?
The WCT had a winner by year like the Grand Prix? Can anyone help me with the info?
Thank you urban & andfor!

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The WCT had point system independent of the ATP and Grand Prix rankings. In the first two years there were three finals and three final standings and the 8 finalists for the finals were taken from the rankings. All the players played in the same tournaments for the first two years.

1971 World Championship of Tennis final standings
No. 1 Rod Laver
No. 2 Tom Okker
No. 3 Ken Rosewall
No. 4 Cliff Drysdale
No. 5 Arthur Ashe
No. 6 John Newcombe
No. 7 Marty Riessen
No. 8 Bob Lutz
No. 9 Roy Emerson
No. 10 Andres Gimeno
No. 11 Charlie Pasarell
No. 12 John Alexander
No. 13 Dennis Ralston
=No. 14 Ray Ruffels
=No. 14 El Shafei
=No. 14 Niki Pilic
No. 17 Maud
No. 18 Mark Cox
No. 19 Roger Taylor
No. 20 Fred Stolle

1972 First Part final standings
No. 1 Rod Laver
No. 2 Ken Rosewall
No. 3 Tom Okker
No. 4 Cliff Drysdale
No. 5 Marty Riessen
No. 6 Arthur Ashe
No. 7 Bob Lutz
No. 8 John Newcombe
=No. 9 Roy Emerson
=No. 9 Charlie Pasarell
No. 11 John Alexander
No. 12 Roger Taylor
No. 13 Andres Gimeno
No. 14 Mark Cox
No. 15 Borowiak
=No. 16 Fred Stolle
=No. 16 Niki Pilic
No. 18 El Shafei
=No.19 Bob Carmichael
=No.19 Ray Ruffels

1972 Second Part final standings
No. 1 John Newcombe
No. 2 Arthur Ashe
No. 3 Tom Okker
No. 4 Mark Cox
=No. 5 Cliff Drysdale
=No. 5 Marty Riessen
=No. 7 Bob Lutz
=No. 7 Niki Pilic
=No. 9 Roy Emerson
=No. 9 Anthony Roche
=No. 9 El Shafei
No. 12 Cliff Richey
No. 13 Charlie Pasarell
No. 14 Ray Ruffels
=No. 15 Ken Rosewall
=No. 15 Roger Taylor
No. 17 John Alexander
=No.18 Bob Carmichael
=No.18 Allan Stone
=No.18 Rahim
=No.18 Borowiak

Then in 1973 the WCT players were seperated into two groups, A & B, with each group playing certain tournaments. The Philadelphia tournament at the start of the season had all the players together. The top 4 from each group qualified for the final at the end of the season.

Group A
No. 1 Stan Smith
No. 2 Rod Laver
=No. 3 Roy Emerson
=No. 3 John Alexander
No. 5 Cliff Richey
No. 6 Dick Stockton
No. 7 Bob Lutz
No. 8 Brian Gottfried
No. 9 Colin Dibley
No. 10 J Fillol

Group B
No. 1 Ken Rosewall
No. 2 Arthur Ashe
No. 3 Marty Riessen
=No. 4 Roger Taylor
=No. 4 Mark Cox
No. 6 Brian Fairlie
No. 7 Jan Kodes
No. 8 Tom Okker
No. 9 Roscoe Tanner
No. 10 Tom Gorman

In 1974 the group was divided into three groups, Red, Blue and Green and the top 8 points winners qualified for the final (marked with *). Each group played seperate tournaments except the Philadelphia tournament at the start of the season.

Red Group
No. 1 Nastase*
No. 2 Okker*
No. 3 Gorman
No. 4 Drysdale
No. 5 Pilic
No. 6 Pattison
No. 7 John Alexander
No. 8 Riessen
No. 9 Anthony Roche
No. 10 McMillan

Blue Group
No. 1 John Newcombe*
No. 2 Smith*
No. 3 Metreveli
No. 4 Stockton
No. 5 Hrebec
No. 6 Borowiak
No. 7 Ross Case
No. 8 Ramirez
No. 9 Fillol
No. 10 Richey

Green Group
No. 1 Ashe*
No. 2 Rod Laver*
No. 3 Borg*
No. 4 Kodes*
No. 5 Cox
No. 6 Tanner
No. 7 Dibbs
No. 8 Taylor
No. 9 Panatta
No. 10 Parun

Thanks, Andrew. I had put the stats out of my head. For 1975 i must look at the 1976 edition of World of Tennis. I remember, that Ashe lead one group over Borg(and got a golden ball for overall most points) and Laver another (he won 4 events and 23 matches in a row). In 1976 i still think, that Ashe won the most points. But he lost to Solomon at the Dallas finals, which Borg won over Vilas.I know, that they reduced the regular events to 16 men draws. The Philadelphia opener with a big draw was won by Connors.

One remark on the lists posted by Andrew. If you look at the 1971 points standing of the WCT, you may notice, that the field at that time was pretty deep, reaching into the top twenties. You have pretty good players like Roger Taylor and Fred Stolle on 19 and 20. Taylor was in the sf of Wimbledon in 1967, 1970 and 72, and Stolle was a hall of famer. By 1971 he was a bit over the hill, but still able to beat the leading player Newcombe at USO in 1972.

llgc8080 said:

btw CyBorg, being a internet surfer don't make you a tennis master.
Keep with wiki, itf and atp web pages, maybe you learn a little bit! At least I go to all events played in my country, and see ALIVE all the matches. Come to Paris and I'll kick your a.. in my tennis club, cuase I'm pretty sure that you never pick up a raquet in your life. :evil:

And you can edit your posts with at least 60 published. I can't do that before.

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What a weird post. Do we have some kind of rivalry I don't know about? I have said before that I'm a terrible poster and am of overrated intelligence. wink.

CyBorg said:

What a weird post. Do we have some kind of rivalry I don't know about? I have said before that I'm a terrible poster and am of overrated intelligence. wink.

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Not rivalry! You got passion and got your points and beliefs. That's all. And what i say about playing tennis is true, if you come to Paris we can play (I'm a fat and very poor player, I admit!).
And people enjoy your posts (like me).
Greetings (you see, i'm not bad at all)

btw CyBorg (I learned from you) if you got info about this thread, help me please. Thanxs!

llgc8080 said:

Not rivalry! You got passion and got your points and beliefs. That's all. And what i say about playing tennis is true, if you come to Paris we can play (I'm a fat and very poor player, I admit!).
And people enjoy your posts (like me).
Greetings (you see, i'm not bad at all)

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You should have extended the invitation last Spring. I was in Paris in May/June.

The part about you being fat sounds like a trap. You're clearly trying to get me to relax and underestimate you. All things considered, we would have to incorporate a table tennis match. For the record, I am 'terrible' at table tennis. wink.

CyBorg said:

You should have extended the invitation last Spring. I was in Paris in May/June.

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Damn!

And I'm fat, that's true, ha ha!

andfor said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Championship_Tennis

Scroll to the bottom of the page. It that what you're looking for? As with all information on the web, double check it with another source.

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Thank you &4!
I saw it from micce.
I just want the top positions of every year of WCT, not easy to find!
But we have AndreTas here!!!

And 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 info?

llgc8080, because you're from France, I recommend you to obtain this tennis book for more info about the old tournaments:

Michel Sutter, Vainqueurs 1946-2003, Paris, 2003. Sutter a, dans un premier temps, essayé de recenser tous les tournois internationaux de 1946 à l'automne 1991. Pour chaque tournoi il a indiqué la ville, la date de la finale, le vainqueur, le finaliste et le score de la finale. Un tournoi est inclus dans sa liste si : (1) le tableau comprend au moins huit joueurs (à quelques exceptions près comme les tournois Pepsi Grand Slam de la seconde moitié des années 1970; et (2) le niveau du tournoi fut au moins égal à celui des tournois challenger de maintenant. Le livre de Sutter est probablement la source la plus exhaustive de tournois depuis la Seconde Guerre mondiale, même si quelques tournois professionnels de la période précédent l'ère open ne sont pas enregistrés. Par la suite Sutter a publié une deuxième édition, avec pour seules indications les joueurs, leurs victoires et les années correspondantes, sur la période 1946 - 27 avril, 2003.

Yes, I always thought that book was the solution. I hear a lot of it.
Mercy micce.

Micce said:

llgc8080, because you're from France, I recommend you to obtain this tennis book for more info about the old tournaments:

Michel Sutter, Vainqueurs 1946-2003, Paris, 2003. Sutter a, dans un premier temps, essayé de recenser tous les tournois internationaux de 1946 à l'automne 1991. Pour chaque tournoi il a indiqué la ville, la date de la finale, le vainqueur, le finaliste et le score de la finale. Un tournoi est inclus dans sa liste si : (1) le tableau comprend au moins huit joueurs (à quelques exceptions près comme les tournois Pepsi Grand Slam de la seconde moitié des années 1970; et (2) le niveau du tournoi fut au moins égal à celui des tournois challenger de maintenant. Le livre de Sutter est probablement la source la plus exhaustive de tournois depuis la Seconde Guerre mondiale, même si quelques tournois professionnels de la période précédent l'ère open ne sont pas enregistrés. Par la suite Sutter a publié une deuxième édition, avec pour seules indications les joueurs, leurs victoires et les années correspondantes, sur la période 1946 - 27 avril, 2003.

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I have wanted to buy this book but dont know where it is available. Any bookstore details in France which I can contact?

WCT final standings 1976-1983
All the players were put back together and played the same tournaments.
1976
1. Ashe
2. Ramirez
3. Vilas
4. Dibbs
5. Borg
6. Stockton
7. Lutz
8. Solomon
9. Gerulaitus
10. Gottfried
11. Nastase
12. Okker
13. Fibak
14. Drysdale
=15. Case
=15. Rosewall

1977
1. Stockton
2. Dibbs
3. Connors
4. Nastase
=5. Drysdale
=5. Fibak
=5. Gerulaitus
8. Panatta
9. Barazzutti
=10. Solomon
=10. Rosewall
=13. John Alexander
=13. V Amritraj
=13. Roche


1978
1. Gerulaitus
2. Borg
3. Dibbs
4. Ramirez
5. Nastase
6. S Mayer
=7. Connors
=7. Gottfried
9. Stockton
10. Barazzutti


1979
1. McEnroe
2. Borg
3. Gerulaitus
4. Connors
5. Tanner
6. G Mayer
=7. Ashe
=7. Vilas
9. Masters
=10. Alexander
=10. Gottfried
=10. Nastase

1980
1. McEnroe
2. Scanlon
3. Connors
=4. Lendl
=4. Tanner
=6. Gunthardt
=6. V Amritraj
=8. Sadri
=8. Clerc
=10. Gottfried
=10. G Mayer

1981
1. Tanner
2. Connors
3. Fibak
4. Noah
5. McEnroe
6. V Amritraj
7. Gottfried
8. Gerulaitus
9. S Mayer
10. G Mayer

The WCT expanded from the previous year and broke away from the Grand Prix for the year. There were three finals, Spring (Dallas), Fall (Naples) and Winter (Detroit) and therefore three different points tables for each season.

1982 Spring
1. Lendl
2. Clerc
3. Fibak
4. V Amritraj
5. Smid
6. McNamara
7. McEnroe
8. Gerulaitus
9. Taroczy
10. Dibbs

1982 Summer/ Fall
1. Lendl
2. Smid
3. Clerc
4. Vilas
5. Kriek
6. Higueras
=7. Gunthardt
=7. Fibak
9. Tanner
10. Bourne

1982 Winter
1. Fibak
2. Scanlon
=3. Curren
=3. Vilas
5. Taroczy
6. McNamee
=7. Lendl
=7. Teacher
=9. Tom Gullikson
=9. Smid

In 1983 there were only 9 tournaments and the WCT were back with the Grand Prix circuit.
1983 (These are the twelve who qualified for the Dallas finals)
1. Lendl
2. McEnroe
3. Vilas
4. Gerulaitus
5. Clerc
6. McNamee
7. Smid
8. Fibak
9. Taroczy
10. Scanlon
11. Curren
12. Teacher

1984-1989
Do not have final standings but know that twelve players qualified each year for the finals in Dallas.

AndrewTas said:

I have wanted to buy this book but dont know where it is available. Any bookstore details in France which I can contact?

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Now I'm seeking the book in Paris, if I get one bookstore wtih it I will tell. It's not easy to find. Thank you for your posts!

Andrew, last one: 75 results?
Thanxxxxxxxxxxs!

1975

dont know how I forgot it.

1975 WCT Standings
In 1975 the group was divided into three groups again, Red, Blue and Green and the top 8 points winners qualified for the final (marked with *). Each group played separate tournaments except the Philadelphia tournament at the start of the season.

Red Group
No. 1 John Alexander*
No. 2 Solomon*
No. 3 Cox*
No. 4 Smith
No. 5 Stockton
No. 6 Lutz
No. 7 Dent
No. 8 Drysdale
=No. 9 Amritraj
=No. 9 Riessen

Blue Group
No. 1 Laver*
No. 2 Tanner*
No. 3 Ramirez*
No. 4 Gottfried
No. 5 Gerulaitus
No. 6 Fillol
No. 7 Stone
No. 8 Pattison
=No. 9 Borowiak
=No. 9 El Shafei

Green Group
No. 1 Ashe*
No. 2 Borg*
No. 3 Okker
No. 4 Mottram
No. 5 Hewitt
No. 6 Parun
No. 7 Warwick
No. 8 Higueras
No. 9 Dominguez
No. 10 Giltinan

Great thread. Thanks for information.
In Argentina, the book of Sutter can't be find.

Lucio.

Q&M son said:

Great thread. Thanks for information.
In Argentina, the book of Sutter can't be find.

Lucio.

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Keep looking!