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LOL, well jo11y needs steel cables in his racquets to not break.
brand new ALU jobs?
Dang you Jo11y, I really need to break my luxilon touch hybrid but how do you break them if they only lose tension and don't break?
They notch about half way through then can break at any time, sometimes they go right away and sometimes they hang in there.
It takes a heavy topspin and pace ball to notch them, then when the notches are deep, an atomic flat ball to snap them.
J
I believe we have different definitions of topspin and pace.
J
I hit with topspin and power but they just don't seem to break. If they don't break soon I will probably cut them out. I just really wanna break them so badly.
I've seen a few posts on this board with people asking how to break strings, wishing they could break them, etc. Could you do me a favour and explain why? I just don't understand why anyone would want it to happen, unless it's some sort of macho thing (and even then I don't understand it, but I'm getting old now so maybe I'm just out of touch...)
Sorry I missed that post bud.
The Kevlar gut blends are pretty good, the bite of the kevlar, but some good pop from the gut.
As far as lux blends go, I actually like how ALU mains and NRG2 crosses play, but that lasts me about half as long as an ALU/VS blend.
The only way to tell for sure is to string up the variations.
How many hours do you get out of your current stringjob?
J
What do you mean????
I can usually get a week out of my current setup of the kevlar and gamma prodigy. With a week being about 14-16 hours. At that point the tension is lost and the strings become rahter unpredictable. Is there a syn gut that you can recommend that you feel is better and how do you feel about a multi in that set-up. I get good feel with the syn. gut and wondering if the longevity of a multi might be longer with similiar feel. If so do you have a multi you sould suggest?
I am probably gonna use the ALU rough for my next job because never tried full poly and just wanna give it a shot.
I was tempted to do the natural gut crosses, but I am afraid I will like it and can definitely not afford that setup.
Thanks for your response!
Brandon
Thanks
Thanks for reply.
Jollyroger,
My cousin ,who is approximately a high-end level 3.0 player, wants to buy a Wilson K Six-One Tour 90 and wants a hybrid stringing with natural gut mains and Luxilon Alu Power Rough crosses and asked me what tension I would recommend. I think his swings are not yet developed to the level where he could generate enough power on his own with this racket (that’s why I suggested him not to buy a tour 90 in the first place…) , so I recommended him to string it relatively loosely to compensate for that and to be able to hit a bit deeper. However, I do not use the Tour 90, so I found it hard to give him exact numbers. I thought of 54 for the mains and 51 for the crosses. Do you think it could work? Or would you suggest something different?
Thanks for your help in advance. Yves
He want's Federer's racquet, with Federer's stringjob, why not use Federer's tension aswell.
What you suggested sounds about right I would go 4lb lower on the cross, so 54/50 instead of 54/51.
Seriously though, it doesn't matter for a 3.0ish player.
Tension changes your depth, and if you do not have a constant repeatable stroke then attempting to dial in depth is silly.
So yea, let it fly, as long as he likes the racquet, and has fun playing, then good for him.
J
Thanks for the quick reply and the good advice. You are right, probably at level 3.0 with a racket that needs better developed skills there is no point in "fine-tuning", I just wanted to get the best out of the situation and I knew you were familiar with the racquet, so I thought it would still be worth asking. Thanks again for the answer, then I'll suggest 54/50 for him and hope he'll be happy with his Federer-style racquet.
Jolly, I'd say that I'm truthfully a 3.5 level player. I use a Babolat Aero Storm strung with this synthetic gut (that was on the demo at the store...I liked the racquet so much I just said put whatever string was on the demo, on the racquet). I believe it's Gosen Micro or something along those lines. Very cheap, but my strokes are fine. Strung at about 58lbs.
Do you think I should try out some poly? I have a case of Babolat Pro Hurricane, and from what I've read, poly can sometimes be a big difference maker for some people. Would you recommend my trying it?
Thanks for the advice. I'll work on trying to break these strings, hehe.
But 2 hours? Damn, lol!
J,
So your basically saying if I can't break synthetic or multi strings in 2-3 hrs, I should not be using ploy?
tks
use what you want. poly's do 2 things well, durability and spin (if you have sufficient racquet head speed). If you don't swing hard enough to break syn gut in 2-3 hrs, you don't need the durability and you likely don't have the racquet head speed to maximize its spin potential. Then, all you're really getting is a harsh, dead feeling string that loses tension and playability quickly. I'm generalizing here of course.
J,
So your basically saying if I can't break synthetic or multi strings in 2-3 hrs, I should not be using ploy?
tks
Yup.
J
I would beg to differ. Seems like an unrealistic hard and fast rule.
If my opinion prompts someone to try out something they wouldn't normally and it works out well for them, then great, if they decide they want to go in a different direction, or that they like something I reccomended against better, then good for them.
But I do have a pretty good batting average with stuff like this.
J
I'd imagine there are some strings out there that I wouldn't break after 2-3 hours but I play much better with poly and I use a fair bit of topspin.
About how long does a basic syngut like a PSG16 or Gosen 16 last you?
I would be shocked to hear that you get more than 3 hours of practice out of it, especially given that you play on clay fairly often.
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Not to say it doesn't exist, because there are lots of people out there with lots of playing styles, just that I haven't noticed it.
J
About five minutes. I cut it out because it's terrible. After using VS I tried to save money by getting this and it was a big waste of money.About how long does a basic syngut like a PSG 16 last you?
Synthetic Gut. The go-to string for 80% of all tennis players. Made of nylon (Not to be confused with tournament nylon) syn-gut is cheap, plays fairly well for a short time, and is very common. Highly reccomended to most players 3.5 and lower. Prince Synthetic Gut is the most popular string, but several other companies make good quality fine playing syn-guts. If you are a string breaker, syn-gut is not very durable and if you are a hard hitter you may find it to get soft rather quickly aswell. If you are just starting out experimenting with strings, the first thing you do is get a basic syn gut installed, and use that as your starting point to determine where you go from there, what you want more or less of. You may just find that the syn-gut suits you just fine, and end up staying with it for the rest of your tennis playing days.
Manly accomplishments of the past week:i officially award you 7.5 man points
Manly accomplishments of the past week:
1. Cracked a racquet in half
2. Busted a new tennis ball in an hour of hitting
I know this post was a little while ago, but I'm pretty excited about my "accomplishments"
Well done.
In order to completely tally your man-points, we need to know the circumstances of the racquet breaking. If you busted it in two over your knee when it was in playable condition, that is some major points.
Breaking tennis balls is always good, my record is 3 in an hour. I think it depends on the batch, because some cases I don't break any, and some cases I break them every other time.
J
I cracked it at the throat in an angry rage. I loved busting the ball even more though. I'm 14 so it made me feel great.Well done.
In order to completely tally your man-points, we need to know the circumstances of the racquet breaking. If you busted it in two over your knee when it was in playable condition, that is some major points.
Breaking tennis balls is always good, my record is 3 in an hour. I think it depends on the batch, because some cases I don't break any, and some cases I break them every other time.
J
Are there particular brands of tennis balls that are more susceptible to breaking?
I cracked it at the throat in an angry rage. I loved busting the ball even more though. I'm 14 so it made me feel great.
I almost always play with plain old penn extra dutys.
They are the ones I break most often.
I have one friend who will only play with Wilson Championships (which go dead in 15 mins, which is an advantage to him).
Sometimes I play with Wilson US Opens.
And when I hit with Dennis10is we use either Penn ATP (if I am bringing) or Dunlop Grand Prix (If he is bringing) because anything else just pukes instantly (like 2 cans of balls flat in under 45 mins).
I have broken mostly the regular Penns, I don't know if it is because they are inferior quality, or because I mostly play with them, or some combination of both (most likely).
J
Yeah I usually play with Wilson US Open extra duty balls. That's what I broke. And cool, 10 points and I'm not even a man yet!I almost always play with plain old penn extra dutys.
They are the ones I break most often.
I have one friend who will only play with Wilson Championships (which go dead in 15 mins, which is an advantage to him).
Sometimes I play with Wilson US Opens.
And when I hit with Dennis10is we use either Penn ATP (if I am bringing) or Dunlop Grand Prix (If he is bringing) because anything else just pukes instantly (like 2 cans of balls flat in under 45 mins).
I have broken mostly the regular Penns, I don't know if it is because they are inferior quality, or because I mostly play with them, or some combination of both (most likely).
J
You could be swinging harder to compesate for the deadness. Just a thoughtBolt and I have found the Penn Extra Duty's fuzz up too quickly, almost looking like a fur ball after 15 minutes.
Dunlops Grand Prix Extra Duty seem to have decent life but my elbow hasn't liked them too much. I haven't weighed them but they feel slightly heavier to me.
I have also noticed that my elbow doesn't like it when I hit with semi-dead or dead balls. I am not sure what the reason for this?
I'm thinking about doing my next string job gut mains poly crosses at 60/60 on my current setup im using the exact opposite setup at the same tension on a k90 would i benefit more with the switch?
I have also noticed that my elbow doesn't like it when I hit with semi-dead or dead balls. I am not sure what the reason for this?
I'm thinking about doing my next string job gut mains poly crosses at 60/60 on my current setup im using the exact opposite setup at the same tension on a k90 would i benefit more with the switch?