Tomas Berdych's racquet

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Gemini

Hall of Fame
It looks like tape to cover what's on the buttcap. I suspect his got a non-Dunlop buttcap and is trying to hide it.
 
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bchamaki

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At first I thought it might be lead tape. Because I've seen this kid at all the national level tournaments with something similar.

I am puzzled.
 
Bogie

Bogie

Hall of Fame
berdych uses a head grip so it's likely that he's covering up the head logo on the butt cap
 
Bogie

Bogie

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custom version of the dunlop revelation pro with a head grip. blake and haas also use very similar frames. the closest thing that you'll get to what they're actually using is the tecnifibre 320/335 which is the same mold (i believe tecnifibre bought that mold from dunlop)
 
Feña14

Feña14

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Bogie said:
custom version of the dunlop revelation pro with a head grip. blake and haas also use very similar frames. the closest thing that you'll get to what they're actually using is the tecnifibre 320/335 which is the same mold (i believe tecnifibre bought that mold from dunlop)
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That right? I always thought the Tecnifibre's were just based on the old Major mold's :confused: Oh well.. suppose you learn something new everyday! :)
 
vsbabolat

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ShcMad

ShcMad

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Thomas Martinez, who strung many pros' racquets, said that it's just regular white athletic tape that was put in a cross-shape. But, he didn't say why Berdych put it there.
 
Bogie

Bogie

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vsbabolat said:
There is one problem with this theory. The logo on the black head butt cap for the pro's is just sticker and very easily removed.

Also Check out Thomas Muster he does the same thing and he is currently under contact with HEAD again.
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/S...amily=editorial&p=thomas muster&src=standard#
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well virtually all butt caps are very easy to remove so if he or someone at dunlop really wanted to, they could've easily removed them. the only thing is that since head has somewhat of a unique grip shape, even if they take head logo off, they still wouldn't be able to put the dunlop cap on so it leaves them with either putting tape over the head logo or just not having a logo.
 
vsbabolat

vsbabolat

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Bogie said:
well virtually all butt caps are very easy to remove so if he or someone at dunlop really wanted to, they could've easily removed them. the only thing is that since head has somewhat of a unique grip shape, even if they take head logo off, they still wouldn't be able to put the dunlop cap on so it leaves them with either putting tape over the head logo or just not having a logo.
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I am sorry I don't know what point you are trying to make. What I tried to explain is I don't think the white athletic tape is there to hide the HEAD logo because it is a sticker and they will just remove it.
Thomas Muster uses white athletic tape on his HEAD racquet's butt-caps and has nothing to do with hiding the logo.
ThomasMuster1.jpg




Tommy Haas uses Dunlop racquets with the Head pallet and Head butt-cap and just removes the Head logo sticker.
TommyHaas4.jpg

TommyHaas2.jpg

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bchamaki

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I dont think its the logo. At first I thought it was to cover lead tape or keep the butt-cap on tighter.
 
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bchamaki

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check out the picture above. This is in pacific life 2008.

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This is in the U.S. open 2004



I'm still puzzled. I think it might be because he's changing his racquet weight for different surfaces. That's just my two cents.
 
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bchamaki

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sorry it didn't work. Here are some other pictures.

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/S...family=editorial&p=tomas berdych&src=quick#24

its the Sixth picture horizantally. This picture was in 2006

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Detail.aspx?axd=DetailPaging.Search|1&axs=0|80522809%2c80522792%2c80522758%2c80522755%2c80522710%2c80522685%2c80522560%2c80522559%2c80522557%2c80522508%2c80522503%2c80522502%2c80522383%2c80522381%2c80522378%2c80522376%2c80522373%2c80522232%2c80522222%2c80522210%2c80522206%2c80522204%2c80522203%2c80462590%2c80462586%2c80462582%2c80462450%2c80462441%2c80462435%2c80462431%2c80462422%2c80443438%2c80443435%2c80435435%2c80435433%2c80435431%2c80435430%2c80435429%2c80435171%2c80435170%2c80435169%2c80435168%2c80103693%2c80103691%2c80103473%2c80103250%2c80102968%2c80089219%2c80089217%2c80089215%2c80089213%2c79965774%2c79965773%2c79965771%2c79965770%2c79965760%2c79965746%2c79965742%2c79965739%2c79965736|0&id=80462586

this was in pacific life 2008
 
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no_dark_things

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Hi everyone

I read article about Muster's racquet. It might have been a USRSA magazine though I'm not 100% sure. The stringer commented both on the incredible weight (14 some odd ounces) and the fact that the butt cap of the handle had been built up with tape and he said it resembled a then butt end of a hockey stick. I have no idea why Muster uses so much white tape at the top end of the handle though. It does look cool if nothing else.
 
migjam

migjam

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I asked Thomas this question several years ago and he does this because of the amount of torque he puts on the end of his racquet. If the grip were removed, you would also see the athletic tape strips actually go up 4 inches up the handle (helps secure the butt-cap). He then takes a his grip and wraps it two to three times at the butt cap to form a knob, which is why you also see tape at the top of the handle because the grip ends up being shorter now.
 
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ccjta

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There are other pictures from the same set and different match and show Berdych's but cap has a dunlop logo.
 
Tennisguy777

Tennisguy777

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The throat of Tomas' racquet picture is very similar to the pic below of the Tecnifibre. The stock AG200 doesn't have grooves (it's flat) where the two beams meet the face of racquet at 5 and 7 o'clocks.

325XVO-2.jpg


Leading to the assertion that he's using the same mold as James Blake and others.
 
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kumat63

Rookie
I wouldn't make a big deal of the pro's butt caps. I've got a few Head frames off their pro line and they have plain black butt caps with a (very cheap) Head logo sticker. I think it's because the frames come bare from the factory and grip pallets are added (along with butt caps) by a racquet tech. If you notice in the photo above, most all of them have plain black butt caps--seems to be the standard issue...
 
vsbabolat

vsbabolat

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kumat63 said:
I wouldn't make a big deal of the pro's butt caps. I've got a few Head frames off their pro line and they have plain black butt caps with a (very cheap) Head logo sticker. I think it's because the frames come bare from the factory and grip pallets are added (along with butt caps) by a racquet tech. If you notice in the photo above, most all of them have plain black butt caps--seems to be the standard issue...
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The plain black butt cap with a HEAD Logo sticker is what HEAD used to use on the consumer racquets for decades. Over the years HEAD has had various designs on the Sticker for the butt cap .



Here is what the sticker on the HEAD butt cap looked like in 1982.
AMFHEAD_EdgeWood.jpg
 
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rosen88

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I have played with Berdych's racket. It is a soft and flexy racket. Kind of like the PT630 but softer. Weight: around 355 unstrung. Balance: almost even, little headlight. Head shape: a little bit more like a HEAD than an Aerogel. Length: Could be a little bit longer.
I play future tournaments and one guys I met had Berdych's racket that is why I have tried it and seen the sticker on the racket with the weight, balance and more. And ofcourse it says on the frame NO AEROGEL.
 
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ART ART

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rosen88 said:
I have played with Berdych's racket. It is a soft and flexy racket. Kind of like the PT630 but softer. Weight: around 355 unstrung. Balance: almost even, little headlight. Head shape: a little bit more like a HEAD than an Aerogel. Length: Could be a little bit longer.
I play future tournaments and one guys I met had Berdych's racket that is why I have tried it and seen the sticker on the racket with the weight, balance and more. And ofcourse it says on the frame NO AEROGEL.
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Can you post what info was on the sticker? (weight, balance and more..)

Thank's
 
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ccjta

Rookie
rosen88 said:
I have played with Berdych's racket. It is a soft and flexy racket. Kind of like the PT630 but softer. Weight: around 355 unstrung. Balance: almost even, little headlight. Head shape: a little bit more like a HEAD than an Aerogel. Length: Could be a little bit longer.
I play future tournaments and one guys I met had Berdych's racket that is why I have tried it and seen the sticker on the racket with the weight, balance and more. And ofcourse it says on the frame NO AEROGEL.
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Why would Dunlop paint a racquet to look like an Aerogel and then print "NO AEROGEL" on the frame? Doesn't make sense, does it? Why would they pay Berdych money to use an Aerogel frame and then print "NO AEROGEL" on it????
 
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rosen88

Rookie
ART ART said:
Can you post what info was on the sticker? (weight, balance and more..)

Thank's
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I played with the racket in june so I don't remember exactly but I think the sticker said around 355 grams, almost even balanced, 27" or 27,25" but not longer and the head shape is not the same as the aerogels its more HEAD-like. That is all I know.
 
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rosen88

Rookie
ccjta said:
Why would Dunlop paint a racquet to look like an Aerogel and then print "NO AEROGEL" on the frame? Doesn't make sense, does it? Why would they pay Berdych money to use an Aerogel frame and then print "NO AEROGEL" on it????
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Sorry I did not make it clear to you before. It was the sticker that said NO AEROGEL not the painting on the racket.
 
Azzurri

Azzurri

Legend
ccjta said:
The butt caps don't suck! The butt caps on all companies racquet come loose because they use staples into the pallet. The staples come loose, it's not a faulty butt cap!
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try not to hurt yourself. I was being sarcastic. you missed that.

By the way..never, ever had a problem with a butt cap.
 
Fedace

Fedace

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OK So Which Aerogel is Berdych really Using ??????? Did he switch to 4D aerogel or not ?????????????
 
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NickC

Professional
Fedace said:
OK So Which Aerogel is Berdych really Using ??????? Did he switch to 4D aerogel or not ?????????????
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You revived a dead thread that's almost a year old just to ask that? Read the damn thread, you twit. A person here has hit with his frame, and says it's a custom frame. There are pictures confirming his claims. You're just too stupid to see that.
 
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mrmo1115

Hall of Fame
Bogie said:
custom version of the dunlop revelation pro with a head grip. blake and haas also use very similar frames. the closest thing that you'll get to what they're actually using is the tecnifibre 320/335 which is the same mold (i believe tecnifibre bought that mold from dunlop)
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Which 320/325? The new ones right now w/ the VO2? Or the older ones? Really wanted to switch to the 320 older version... stupid Tec switching up specs on the new 320 :twisted:
 
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AKB

Guest
mrmo1115 said:
Which 320/325? The new ones right now w/ the VO2? Or the older ones? Really wanted to switch to the 320 older version... stupid Tec switching up specs on the new 320 :twisted:
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If you want to use the same mold as those guys or the old 320, you're holding it with your AG 4D 300 Tour.
 
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mrmo1115

Hall of Fame
AKB said:
If you want to use the same mold as those guys or the old 320, you're holding it with your AG 4D 300 Tour.
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Wow thats great to hear. Never heard that before, but I knew that the 300 tour is a racquet that seems to fit me.

AKB, do you use the old or new 320
 
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