NetMaster70
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If you were "USTA league commissioner" what would you change about league administration?
How about this: I think Senior 50s should play 1 singles and 2 doubles lines _ not 3 doubles lines.
Advantages:
a) A lot of age 50 players still enjoy singles more than doubles. This makes league more attactive for those guys
b) Fewer players would be needed so maybe it would be easier to form teams
c) 80% of all senior players would still be playing doubles
d) This would make for more interesting line-up strategy
What do you think?
Changing gears . . .what about a new rule: League players must play a full season before they are eligible to play in the post season. League players must play TWO full seasons before they are eligible to play at Nats.
This approach would encourage people to play at a level where they could enjoy their local league. Rahter than some guys self-rating way below level in order to make Nationals.
What do you think?
Changing gears . . .what about a new rule: League players must play a full season before they are eligible to play in the post season. League players must play TWO full seasons before they are eligible to play at Nats.
This approach would encourage people to play at a level where they could enjoy their local league. Rahter than some guys self-rating way below level in order to make Nationals.
What do you think?
I think that is a little drastic just because there are some cheaters out there who improperly self rate themselves.
The league just needs to continue to improve the self rating process, and they need to enforce there own rules when transgressions are found rather than look the other way.
Changing gears . . .what about a new rule: League players must play a full season before they are eligible to play in the post season. League players must play TWO full seasons before they are eligible to play at Nats.
cak,
I certainly think the USTA is trying to get more people to play tennis _ because that puts money in their pockets. Maybe I'm cynical but I think it is MOSTLY about $ with the USTA.
I think it would be unfair to all of a sudden run a DNTRP and effect teams for the playoffs. Plus a team could then put its weaker players up against certain people and just tank a match to alter it up as well..
Javier,
What specifically are you referring to when you say the USTA "needs to enforce its own rules"?
It's difficult for some to believe this but, speaking STRICTLY of the USTA, it's NOT about the money. As far as I'm aware, USTA Sections are (501{c}3) CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS! Sure, USTA memberships and (after expenses), league fees generate revenue - BUT those monies tend to be plowed back into earnest attempts to genuinely grow the game. What also must be understood though, is that the Tennis Industry Association (TIA), which obviously has a big stake in the growth of tennis, is a big supporter of the USTA. But the USTA - which, in great part is a volunteer driven organization (with employees, of course) - is, to a large extent, all about people who love the game and want to see it prosper. Yes, folks who own/manage clubs are involved in the USTA as volunteers; think about it though . . . if you were in a similar position, you'd probably tend to get involved too. My observation is AT LEAST 50 percent - probably more - of the USTA volunteer base is made up of people who simply love the game and enjoy giving back.
well if you did it right before the playoffs, all of a sudden the team that used the players no longer has them at their disposal so why even have them represent the league?
It also then punishes someone who has improved during the course of the year
It also then punishes someone who has improved during the course of the year
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<I don't know why my brain likes figuring out this sort of stuff??>
I guess its not just the cheaters or those who play down who can improve though. I self-rated based on the recommendation of the pros I was taking lessons with and my results against other 3.0C rated players.
Typically I'm about 50/50 with the people who finish between the quarters and finals of local events. What I find wrong is that while some of them had year end ratings in both 3.0 and 3.5 (and were kept in 3.0) I may be the one who gets bumped if I do well early on in league and tournament play. I've tried playing a solid 3.5 and I lose 80% of the time if not more, it takes a bad day on their side for me to win or take a set...I turn into a pusher..
So I want to play a lot this year, leagues, tournaments, mixed, you name it,
however the way the system is construed it suits me better to only make a couple league matches play 2/3 doubles to keep the rating down and then jump out and say surprise if we make the playoffs, of which we stand a good chance, and then hop into singles where I can be a better help to the team
Further, I'd likely finish with a year-end of 3.0C or 3.0B and be able to play 2010 as well where I could then improve as much as I wanted without fear of a bump.
I'm all for moving up, but I dislike that I'm more of a risk to my team of being moved then some of them just because I was unable to get anything other than a self-rate prior to registering with the USTA. I hope to be rated higher next year, however it would be easy for me not to do so and I can see how people easily manipulate the system for years on end at certain levels, especially 3.0-ish..
I was about to go out and work on my footwork, but probably better not to...haha :???:
One thing I would change if I were commissioner for a day: I play all matches out _ three full tiebreak sets. No "match tiebreak".
My view is that a match tiebreak is not much better than flipping a coin.
What a load!! Sorry to rain on your parade, but the USTA is not a non profit organization. When I complained about policies, how money was spent, etc. Bruce Hunt, the NorCal director at that time basically told me that it was too bad I disagreed, but that as an indivdual member my opinion didn't really mean all that much.
As for all of the "volunteers", a large percentage of the board of directors of the NorCal section are people that have a vested, financial interest in the decisions that are made. How this isn't a conflict of interest is beyond me.
As for volunteering, I would run for the board, but I would have to kowtow to teaching pros and club owners to be elected. You see, voting is done by proxy. The only people that really vote are the club owners and teaching pros that control the blocks of votes.
So, in conclusion, I just find it hard to believe that more people aren't royally peeved about the way things are run within the USTA. However, people like 10sguy remind me of the great P.T Barnum's saying that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
Go back and read/UNDERSTAND; my post had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with USTA policies. It was about monies collected for due/league fees and how they're spent AND the fact that the USTA is primarily a volunteer-driven organization. Get you head out of your . . . oh, never mind.
I still say that USTA could be improved a ton if they would simply get rid of the team win concept and award playoff berths by total lines taken over the season. THis would give teams strong incentive to take all 5 lines during the regular season and not reserve their best players (or even worse have them lose a meaningless match on purpose) during the season. Taking 3 over a team would give you the tiebreak over them if you ended up tied so there would still be strong incentive to take at least 3 points against a team. If you give teams more incentive to take 5 points then so much of the sandbagging has to go away.
It makes sandbagging harder. Don't you realize how much harder it is to have 8 ringers rather than 4? Seriously- you posted this as a reason why having every line matter is a bad thing... All you can do is make sandbagging as hard as possible- having only 3 points matter every week makes it EASY. I can hide my best players all season long if I only have to worry about taking 3 points every week- Its trivial. If you have to worry about taking 5 points every week then all of those players are getting wins every week- the computer will sort them out if they don't belong. Just stacking a team with a lot of very good players top to bottom is not a problem that you can fix... letting a team "hide" their best players until the playoffs is
Javier- I play in Atlanta in a league where total points matter- this is the system I captain under. And I can say that I don't have the ability to sit my best players 5 out of 7 weeks just to save them for the playoffs- I need those points in the regular season and if I sit my best player it makes all 5 lines worse. If my team is so overwhelmingly good that I can sit my best players and still make the playoffs then there is no rating system at all that can stop that from happening. Thats not sandbagging- thats putting together a really great team.
To me the current system is just an open license to cheat. Say you are at 3.5. You take your best ringer and put him with your worst 3.5 rated player and put them at #3 doubles. If your team takes 3 points and their line doesn't matter- that ringer can lower his score as much as he wants to with no downside at at all. Its FREE to do- no cost. Dump a set- dump the match- it doesn't matter- you can decide your own rating. This is actually a ton smarter than only playing the guy once in the regular season then trotting them out for playoffs because it would give their rating more "weight". As long as there are meaningless matches that affect your ratings the system is completely and totally worthless.
I still say that USTA could be improved a ton if they would simply get rid of the team win concept and award playoff berths by total lines taken over the season. THis would give teams strong incentive to take all 5 lines during the regular season and not reserve their best players (or even worse have them lose a meaningless match on purpose) during the season. Taking 3 over a team would give you the tiebreak over them if you ended up tied so there would still be strong incentive to take at least 3 points against a team. If you give teams more incentive to take 5 points then so much of the sandbagging has to go away.
I've felt that way a few times in the past too - but then came to realize the incentive would result in the best players/teams on a roster playing even more than they do now . . . to the detriment of lessor players on the roster.
I still say that USTA could be improved a ton if they would simply get rid of the team win concept and award playoff berths by total lines taken over the season. THis would give teams strong incentive to take all 5 lines during the regular season and not reserve their best players (or even worse have them lose a meaningless match on purpose) during the season. Taking 3 over a team would give you the tiebreak over them if you ended up tied so there would still be strong incentive to take at least 3 points against a team. If you give teams more incentive to take 5 points then so much of the sandbagging has to go away.
One of the USTA leagues I participate in also does this (while another does not)...so again, maybe something to take up on a local level? I think it makes sense!