Roger is playing Montreal?

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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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Spider said:
I look forward to Murray spanking Federer. :)
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Keep on looking forward, for a long time. Murray is a clown who hasnt won ****! When he has his first 1-2 slams then we can start talking.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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Roger pretty much only has to make the SF of Cincy and Montreal then the no1 position is pretty much locked for the rest of the year!
 
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FedFan_2009 said:
You're really a tool. You know that Murray is the 3-setter King.
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Im not a tool, im the real deal:twisted:
He might be, thats why Roger is gonna spank him at Us Open this year as well. Lets just hope he wont be humiliated like he was last year.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision said:
Im not a tool, im the real deal:twisted:
He might be, thats why Roger is gonna spank him at Us Open this year as well. Lets just hope he wont be humiliated like he was last year.
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You talk like Federer is guarenteed to be in the final. It could very well be that Murray is on the other half and Federer has to play Nadal before Murray, and that would be a very tough challenge for Federer. Obviously Nadal is not guarenteed either and perhaps won't even make it to the second week. Then Fed will be there in the final and then let the better player win (which I hope is Murray).
 
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You talk like Federer is guarenteed to be in the final. It could very well be that Murray is on the other half and Federer has to play Nadal before Murray, and that would be a very tough challenge for Federer. Obviously Nadal is not guarenteed either and perhaps won't even make it to the second week. Then Fed will be there in the final and then let the better player win (which I hope is Murray).
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Yeah, i can agree with that, i dont think Nadal will make it very far though, but ppl around here are talking like Murray easily is gonna beat Fed in both the MS coming up and Uso. Thats not gonna happen.
 
tacou

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I think this is an odd decision. After pretty much cementing himself as most accomplished tennis player ever, he can't take another week off to spend with his 2week old daughters? I know Montreal is a masters event but it's not a HUGE tournament...
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision said:
Yeah, i can agree with that, i dont think Nadal will make it very far though, but ppl around here are talking like Murray easily is gonna beat Fed in both the MS coming up and Uso. Thats not gonna happen.
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Masters series Murray is clearly the favorite in their match up and at the slams its the opposite at the moment. No one easily beats Fed at a slam (and if Murray wins the US open, it will be a 5 setter final).

Fed is one of the greatest ever and Murray is the future. Can't wait for this match. :)
 
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VivalaVida said:
Alright, Federer better not lose to Murray in another 3 set match. :evil:
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I agree, and its always the same pattern , Federer chokes the 3rd set away in 15 minutes, MS tournaments are not GS, but still big enough.
 
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dragonfire said:
murray might win 3 setters, but his grand slam record for a #3 isn't amazing, he needs a grand slam for rep.
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Federer won his first slam at around the same age as Murray (if Murray wins the US open).

These guys are exceptional talents and are late bloomers, so they should be judged once their careers are over and not when their peaks has not even started.
 
TMCW140

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tacou said:
I think this is an odd decision. After pretty much cementing himself as most accomplished tennis player ever, he can't take another week off to spend with his 2week old daughters? I know Montreal is a masters event but it's not a HUGE tournament...
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outside of all the bickering, fair point, but i suppose he can cement the number 1 spot, which could allow him to miss some later events, or maybe the relentless crying is forcing him out the house...
 
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Spider said:
Federer won his first slam at around the same age as Murray (if Murray wins the US open).

These guys are exceptional talents and are late bloomers, so they should be judged once their careers are over and not when their peaks has not even started.
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I'm not judging, i am just stating facts, andy murray could very well be number 1 at the end of the year - regardless of whether he wins a grandslam
 
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dragonfire said:
I'm not judging, i am just stating facts, andy murray could very well be number 1 at the end of the year - regardless of whether he wins a grandslam
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That would be a SAD DAY for tennis...
 
GameSampras

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I dont expect roger to come out of Montrael..

I think Roger is getting the sampras disease of 97-02. Focusing on the "big'ins" now.

Its funny Fed didnt win a tournament all year until Madrid and then winning Wimby and RG. It seems all of Fed's focus is primarily on slams now. Of course if he loses at Montrael, that may put a damper on his demolition of the tour since Nadal has been out and he wont have the confidence going into the USO
 
grafselesfan

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maximo said:
It was a very sad day when Federer won the FO with the absence of Nadal. :(
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I agree totally. One of the saddest days in tennis history. :( Oh well atleast the last two slams have proven something. Federer cant win slams anymore with Rafa around or even playing any of his main rivals. He wins through default when his main rival is injured and he doesnt even play his main challengers in the draw. That is not a true champion. Graf and Seles won slams facing each other, Agassi and Sampras won slams facing each other, the Williams and Henin won slams facing each other, Nadal wins slams by beating Federer. Federer on the other hand has to wait for Nadal to be injured or upset, as well as Murray on non clay surfaces and Djokovic on non grass surfaces losing before he faces them, and wins by beating up on the B challengers.
 
GameSampras

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It wasnt even the point Fed got to sidestep Nadal..

Fed got to sidestep the TWO BIGGEST threats of the tournament, Djoker and Nadal..

I mean goshh.. How lucky.. And Fed would have had to play these two b2b
 
grafselesfan

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dragonfire said:
agree, federer won the lottery and won that slam through everyone's pity
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and now we have to hear all the GOAT talk of some player who is vastly inferior to Sampras in atleast half the aspects of the game (and no more than slightly superior in any), who would get owned by Borg in his prime, and who is owned by his biggest rival in his own era and even has recent losing head to heads with his 3 biggest rivals (owned by Murray of late, trailing Djokovic of late).
 
grafselesfan

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GameSampras said:
It wasnt even the point Fed got to sidestep Nadal..

Fed got to sidestep the TWO BIGGEST threats of the tournament, Djoker and Nadal..

I mean goshh.. How lucky
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It depends which slam you are talking about. I would say his two biggest threats at the French were Nadal and Djokovic. His two biggest threats at Wimbledon were Nadal and Murray. Either way he sidestepped both at both.
 
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grafselesfan said:
and now we have to hear all the GOAT talk of some player who is vastly inferior to Sampras in atleast half the aspects of the game (and no more than slightly superior in any), who would get owned by Borg in his prime, and who is owned by his biggest rival in his own era and even has recent losing head to heads with his 3 biggest rivals (owned by Murray of late, trailing Djokovic of late).
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when both players were in there prime, fed had the better backhand, that's it
 
GameSampras

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Sidestepping your two biggest threats of the slam who you would have had to deal with back to back..

These just pure luck.. Extremely fortunate Fed is..


Thus why Im not crowning him GOAT, UNLESS, he proves he can accomplish this type of feat.

Not grab slams when your main rival is out who has demolished you on a consistent basis on every surface at the slams..
 
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GameSampras said:
Sidestepping your two biggest threats of the slam who you would have had to deal with back to back..

These just pure luck.. Extremely fortunate Fed is..


Thus why Im not crowning him GOAT, UNLESS, he proves he can accomplish this type of feat.

Not grab slams when your main rival is out who has demolished you on a consistent basis on every surface at the slams..
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He WON>>>15......Bottomline........while the losers can sit at home and fantasize:twisted:
 
GameSampras

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grafselesfan said:
It depends which slam you are talking about. I would say his two biggest threats at the French were Nadal and Djokovic. His two biggest threats at Wimbledon were Nadal and Murray. Either way he sidestepped both at both.
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Yea thats true..

Sidesteps Djoker and Nadal at the French.. Sidesteps Nadal and Murray..All of which who have had Roger's number of the course of the season and proven they have the games to beat Roger and are the top players in the world along with him.


Thats why Im not understanding why the GOAT label is being thrown around.. Fed didnt really overcome anything.. He did stay in the slams, but great situations evolved for him.


And if Nadal beats Fed at the USO, people will be recanting the GOAT'ness of Fed. No doubt
 
maximo

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Just watch when Federer loses his 5 time winning streak at the USO to Murray or Nadal. Fed fans will literally have a heart attack.
 
drwood

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grafselesfan said:
I agree totally. One of the saddest days in tennis history. :( Oh well atleast the last two slams have proven something. Federer cant win slams anymore with Rafa around or even playing any of his main rivals. He wins through default when his main rival is injured and he doesnt even play his main challengers in the draw. That is not a true champion. Graf and Seles won slams facing each other, Agassi and Sampras won slams facing each other, the Williams and Henin won slams facing each other, Nadal wins slams by beating Federer. Federer on the other hand has to wait for Nadal to be injured or upset, as well as Murray on non clay surfaces and Djokovic on non grass surfaces losing before he faces them, and wins by beating up on the B challengers.
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Shame on you...you're better than trolling posts like this. And, BTW, Graf won half of her slams after Seles was stabbed -- by your logic she's not a true champion either.
 
GameSampras

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maximo said:
Just watch when Federer loses his 5 time winning streak at the USO to Murray or Nadal. Fed fans will literally have a heart attack.
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Oh if Nadal beats Fed, the domination over Fed by Nadal will be complete. I dont care if Fed has 15 slams..

You cant deny what Nadal has done to Fed and what would have been at every slam there is.


And you can only use "matchup" excuse for so long.. That matchup problem has now extended to every surface and you either WIN OR YOU DONT!!
 
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maximo said:
Just watch when Federer loses his 5 time winning streak at the USO to Murray or Nadal. Fed fans will literally have a heart attack.
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Well the only loser I can see is poor whining Murray and his loser ****s....Let him win atleast 1 slam to keep his ****s happy:(
 
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GameSampras said:
Thats why Im not understanding why the GOAT label is being thrown around.. Fed didnt really overcome anything.. He did stay in the slams, but great situations evolved for him.
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That's what happens when you don't lose to nobodies in slams...if Sampras had learned this, he'd have won at least 17 Slams.
 
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maximo said:
It was a very sad day when Federer won the FO with the absence of Nadal. :(
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No,that my friend was a historical day, you cant say that he didnt deserve to win it! And Nadal got bulldozed 1 week earlier, that is not Rogers fault.
 
GameSampras

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drwood said:
That's what happens when you don't lose to nobodies in slams...if Sampras had learned this, he'd have won at least 17 Slams.
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Sampras would have won 17 anyways.. Are u forgetting injuries sidelined Sampras over the course of his long career as well? Herniated Discs, Torn Hip Flexors. THALASSEMIA MINOR!!!!!


Fed has been more fortunate in this regard. He never gets a serious injury which sidelines him nor does he have to deal with an iron deficiency.. Not a good physical problem to have in the tennis field which affects your stamina
 
maximo

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GameSampras said:
Fed has been more fortunate in this regard. He never gets a serious injury which sidelines him.
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Precisely.

Some Federer fans would use the Mono card for his rather embarrasing straight sets white wash at last years AO!

Not to forget the back injury too!
 
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looks like the "i-cant-stand-Fed" troll wagon is in full steam. Must have been a horrible last two months for the troll wagoners :twisted:. Expect more of the same to come in future. Please whine harder - I can't hear you well enough :)
 
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GameSampras said:
Sampras would have won 17 anyways.. Are u forgetting injuries sidelined Sampras over the course of his long career as well? Herniated Discs, Torn Hip Flexors. THALASSEMIA MINOR!!!!!


Fed has been more fortunate in this regard. He never gets a serious injury which sidelines him nor does he have to deal with an iron deficiency.. Not a good physical problem to have in the tennis field which affects your stamina
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He practices smart, he is schedueling smart, he plays smart, very "economic" style of play.
 
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GameSampras said:
Sampras would have won 17 anyways.. Are u forgetting injuries sidelined Sampras over the course of his long career as well? Herniated Discs, Torn Hip Flexors. THALASSEMIA MINOR!!!!!


Fed has been more fortunate in this regard. He never gets a serious injury which sidelines him nor does he have to deal with an iron deficiency.. Not a good physical problem to have in the tennis field which affects your stamina
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who the F cares? His playing style led to injuries; no one hired henchmen to injure his discs or hip flexors. And Thalassemia minor - it's a disadvantage just like height; Agassi won only 8 with his 5'11 height. Imagine if he was 6'1; his h2h with Sampras would've been 34-0, and he'd be sitting with 10+ slams


And the TM even comes into picture only in long matches.
 
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