TennisNinja
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I'd lose 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 with each set being like 10 minutes. I'd be happy to win a point a game.
a club level guy can win a few points against fed:
1) Fed double faults
2) netcord winners.. I would aim for the netcord.. lol
3) moonball to his backhand and hope he shanks it
4) run around the backhand and crack his second serves.. maybe 1/20 will land in for a winner!
5) our low bouncing, slow paced serves will be something he has rarely seen since his junior years.. maybe he will miss a few returns.
6) underarm sidespin serve & volley will win 1 point against him :twisted:
I saw a vid of Federer playing with a young 14 yr old kid with solid and developed groundstrokes during a public event. This kid was really going for his grounstrokes and Roger was being a nice guy and tapping every single ground stroke right back. I am only a 4.0 tennis player and I would go for a winner on every shot in hopes that I land it or Fed misses.
what is up with that ? D1 guys can only serve around 105-115 mph at best...
Put in any handicaps you want for Federer: 40-love, or love-40 deficit in every game, one serve only, you get the doubles alleys. Even with all these combined, any player below 5.0 level will get bageled quite easily.
Sorry . I disagree. On paper , it may look like an over matched opponent when a club player plays against Federer. However a match has to played and won.
In the end one may end up being bageled. As long as this club player puts up a good fight, tries everything in his capacity and gives a good account of himself on the court, who knows--anything might happen and we are talking about a few points here (in most cases, 4 points in a row to avoid a bagel)
If it were me, regardless of who i am playing againt, i will go into match believing i can win it (even if it is against Nadal) and try my best. I got bageled by couple of players before and (i am sure i will occassionally in future). But one thing is certain, i will fight it out win or lose.
So in playing Federer, i would try a few things. Especially the surprise factor. I have a hard time knowing where my serve or shots lands most of time--- fat chance federer can figure it out.
Btw, I have emailed and challenged Federer and Nadal to play me. So far they havent replied (only logical conclusion-- they are scared of losing)
If he was playing his best? You would be lucky to get three balls back if he was hitting it right at you at 80% power. If he was actually going for corner, he could end every point in 1 or 2 shots. These guys hit with a level of precision and power you have never even come close to experiencing. You might as well talk about how many home runs you could hit against a major league pitcher.
Are you kidding me? I didn't happen to have a radar gun, but my fastest first serve is around 100. The ones i was seeing were at least 120, and they weren't even his hardest serves; he was practicing placement.
You try returning serves into play when they are away from you and spinning higher than you've ever hit.
If Federer played like the way he did in the US Open final against Del Potro, I might even get a game off of him. :shock:
(All on his double-faults, of course. )
The only guy that would win a few games of Federer (1 or two perhaps) on this forum is Scoville Jenkins, if it's actually the real him.
There are so many reasons why the whole "I'll attack his backhand" claim is absolutely insane. Nadal is pretty much the only guy that can do it consistently and he's got the most spin heavy forehand in history, and he can only really do it on clay. So the best clay courter of all time can do it, why not somebody who isn't even the best player in their neighborhood? Yeah, I saw Manny Pacquiao use speed to overwhelm Oscar De La Hoya, so that's what I would do, use lightning fast combinations against Oscar. Man, there are so many nuts on this board the moderators should install an anti-squirrel filter.Let's face it. It would be an absolute rampage. For those guy that say they'd lob his backhand, it would just run around it and smack an inside-out winner that hit the fence before you knew what was going.
There are so many reasons why the whole "I'll attack his backhand" claim is absolutely insane. Nadal is pretty much the only guy that can do it consistently and he's got the most spin heavy forehand in history, and he can only really do it on clay. So the best clay courter of all time can do it, why not somebody who isn't even the best player in their neighborhood? Yeah, I saw Manny Pacquiao use speed to overwhelm Oscar De La Hoya, so that's what I would do, use lightning fast combinations against Oscar. Man, there are so many nuts on this board the moderators should install an anti-squirrel filter.
No offense, but unless you've noticed a bullet proof correlation between muscles and being able to hit hard in tennis, it kind of is a stupid question. Do you even consider Federer to be muscular?I know this may seem like a stupid question, but that difference in pace, where does that come from? Are pros like Federer, Nadal, etc. that much stronger (as in muscles, etc.) than a good club player?
Yes. In warm ups, you can't necessarily tell. And by "you," I mean a person. You may be somebody who isn't experienced enough to see the difference. Likewise, I don't think I would be able to tell the difference between a BJJ brown belt and a BJJ black belt, or a good polo player and a great one. Anyway, in a warm up, they will look roughly similar, but once they start playing, you'll see a difference. The top guys hit harder more consistently, generally don't miss unless the other person really pressures them, have big weapons, and execute their patterns better.Also, comparing betweens pros, what is the difference between a guy stuck in Futures and Challengers, pros who make it to the Top 100, Top 20, Top 5 (wins a major)? For example, if you didn't know how pro players were ranked and somebody stuck you on Ashe Stadium watching a match between Federer and Nadal or two players ranked 50 and 55 and two players ranked 200 and 210, could you tell the difference? And how?
This is true when two people are roughly equal in physical skill. It doesn't apply when comparing Federer to one of us.the thing is tennis is a game, it is not a collection of strokes. What is formidable about Fed is not his strokes.
Fed's forehand and serves are arguably the best in tennis. His forehand is arguably the best in history. And sorry, but against you, he won't need his brain.it his game. the way he reads it and the way he quickly figures out a guy. there are blokes probably with better strokes but very very few with the tennis brain he has. that is why i think he will double or triple bagle me.
Michael Jordan in his prime wasn't superman either. But all the positive thinking in the world doesn't mean he wouldn't completely toy with you in a game of one on one in his prime. And you would have a better chance of hitting baskets against MJ, even if you aren't good at basketball, than winning a game against Fed.You guys are exaggerating like there's no tomorrow. He's human, not bloody Superman.
Doesn't matter. None of us play top 10 level ATP tennis either.I've had a hit with Alex Bogdanovic, and obviously there's a major difference between him and Roger, but I think winning 2-3 points is very realistic.
And as for hitting a home run against a major league pitcher, I agree, because none of us play Baseball. :evil:
Yeah, but I'm glad they post their nutty thoughts. This thread's been a lot of fun.+1000
i agree, what kind of 3.5 idiot thinks that they could take a point off Federer? If they played 10000 sets... the chance is 1/10000. the only chance would be if they would get a mishit that hits the netcord at the same time as Federer gets dust in his eye and slips.
Oh, Federer would definitely double-bagel me. But I think I can still win a few points here or there.Federer could probably patty cake serves in and still beat you without dropping a game.
actually, i think a 3.5 can take a point or two from federer. it's not because a 3.5 is that good but it's because federer doesn't care and doesn't make the effort to win every single point. it's not like he's playing for a grand slam title or something.
Oh, Federer would definitely double-bagel me. But I think I can still win a few points here or there.
Here's how I would do it:
1. Kamikaze serving and volleying - I would go for my biggest serve on every serve, 1st or 2nd, and if it goes in, I would rush the net and just guess to one side or the other. Sooner or later, I'll guess right a few times and either smack a volley into the open court or hit a drop volley.
Doubt you could get a racquet on a passing shot, let alone control one. Guessing wouldn't work he would have all the time in the world.
2. Go for broke on every return - assuming that he has to hit a 2nd serve now and then, I would just go for a crushing winner into the corner on every return I can get my racquet on. I concede that I would never get my racquet on any of his first serves.
Hah I don't think you would even have the time to take a full swing.
3. Aim for the netcord - if I get into a baseline rally with him, I'd aim for the netcord on every shot hoping that one ball would clip the netcord and dribble over for a free point.
Baseline rallies wouldn't happen.
4. Lots of drop shots - if I get the opportunity, I'll go for tons of drop shots. One will likely work sooner or later.
Off what? His serve? That's the only shot you will get to hit.
5. Try to shank the ball on purpose off my frame - one may just drop in for a winner and surprise Federer.
Lol maybe maybe.
6. Hope for double-faults - yes, even Federer will double-fault now and then, especially if he's bored and loses concentration.
7. The "Michael Chang serve" - Yes, after blasting every one of my serves for several games, I'll surprise him with a puny underhand drop shot serve. It just might catch him off-guard and get me a free point.
I don't think it would be hard to win a few points off of him. I mean, honestly, if you've got a good first serve, he's going to miss some returns. If you can hit it 110 or so, if you put one right up the T he's not going to be able to do anything with it, and if you're at the net waiting for that weak return....that's a point for you. Obviously, if you try to get into some kind of baseline rally with him, you don't stand a chance in hell....even a guy like Karlovic hardly ever wins points off of him doing that.
I don't think it would be hard to win a few points off of him. I mean, honestly, if you've got a good first serve, he's going to miss some returns. If you can hit it 110 or so, if you put one right up the T he's not going to be able to do anything with it, and if you're at the net waiting for that weak return....that's a point for you. Obviously, if you try to get into some kind of baseline rally with him, you don't stand a chance in hell....even a guy like Karlovic hardly ever wins points off of him doing that.
Karlovic doesn't play tennis for a living. He serves for a living. The rest of his game is laughable.
He still has better groundstrokes than anybody here...which is actually sort of depressing.
Karlovic doesn't play tennis for a living. He serves for a living. The rest of his game is laughable.
How is that depressing? A consistent top 50 pro has better groundstrokes than us?
you need to get some medication for that depression
Fed would have made you a rööe pölse even sitting in a wheelchair...
I think aiming for the net cord on every shot might actually be your best option. For winning a point.
wow....this board is more clueless than i thought, what are you all????a bunch of weekend warriors it sounds like. there are so many ridiculously absurd posts in this thread it is almost laughable. people talking about strategy against fed????? drop shot him??? lob to his bh??? wow, just wow. im sorry, but you'd be lucky to get maybe 1 or 2 chances per set to even hit a ball you feel 'in control' of...let alone drop shot him or hit to his bh.....you wouldn't get it near his bh....ever....and you just can't 'lob' to his bh either....hed have run around it in a second and either hit it inside out or inside in for a winner before you knew what hit you....seriously, fed is just so many times out of your leagues that it is just absurd to even think you could employ any sort of 'strategy' against him.