Who'd make a better coach, Andy Roddick or Lleyton Hewitt
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Karlovic's Sunglasses
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Roddick would probably be more clear.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Hewitt to me. I've seen him talk about the game in interviews and stuff, and he seems very knowledgeable about the game. He's been able to adapt his game, even while being at a lower level physically, to still be effective out on tour. Adapting and changing of game is not something that is Roddick's strong suit.
Same what I was thinking.
flyinghippos101
Legend
Lleyton, for how to **** off your opponents and get spat at in the face. He's the guy to go to for future agitators of the tour.
Hewitt definitely.
What would Roddick teach you? "Smash a 130mph serve DTL, then go for the winner when the floater comes back"
Then you'd be like - wait, how do I hit the 130mph serve?
Lol ok, maybe his game isn't that one dimensional, but Hewitt has a much better all-round game than Roddick imo, and for someone who doesn't have a natural athletic kink such as flexibility or height like Roddick, Hewitt could definitely teach you how to win.
What would Roddick teach you? "Smash a 130mph serve DTL, then go for the winner when the floater comes back"
Then you'd be like - wait, how do I hit the 130mph serve?
Lol ok, maybe his game isn't that one dimensional, but Hewitt has a much better all-round game than Roddick imo, and for someone who doesn't have a natural athletic kink such as flexibility or height like Roddick, Hewitt could definitely teach you how to win.
norbac
Legend
Yup........
Jason Vorhees
Banned
So that's why roddick has been able to stay top 10 for 8 years and hasn't faded away like hewitt.
It's a tough one, hewitt would be better for someone who doesn't have any weapons, because he got sucessful with exactly that, whilst roddick would suit someone with power - he could harness that.
PCXL-Fan
Hall of Fame
Hewitt went away because of injury and diminishing speed as he got older.
35ft6
Legend
As ugly as I think his game is in many ways, based on interviews, it seems like he has a great understanding of tennis. He can't always execute against guy like Federer but he seems very tennis savvy. He appears to be wayyyy more articulate than Hewitt and is much more easy going so I voted for Roddick.
I think he knows what he needs to do, but doesn't always do it (or do it right). So yes, I think Roddick in fact would make a pretty good coach.
Leelord337
Hall of Fame
Roddicks game revolves around his massive serve and has(d) lots of power to bring him to #1.
Hewitt on the other hand doesn't have overwhelming power but is very consistent and a real fighter (Well they're both great fighters on the court)
I think Lleyton would be a more "in depth" coach when it comes to tennis tactics but it would be more fun to be coached by Andy and also might increase morale in his student because of his funny laid back attitude mixed w/professionalism.
Hewitt on the other hand doesn't have overwhelming power but is very consistent and a real fighter (Well they're both great fighters on the court)
I think Lleyton would be a more "in depth" coach when it comes to tennis tactics but it would be more fun to be coached by Andy and also might increase morale in his student because of his funny laid back attitude mixed w/professionalism.
rosenstar
Professional
I feel like Roddick has a very high tennis IQ. He uses his strengths pretty well, which after all, should be every tennis player's goal.
He has a fiery attitude, more so than Hewitt even. I feel like Roddick's real attitude comes out in davis cup, where he is statistically one of the best davis cup players of all time. While I doubt we'll ever see him coaching someone (I could be wrong) I think it's not unlikely that he'll coach davis cup later in his career, or be connected in some other way.
Finally, I feel he is a very wise and experienced. He has played in the top ten for the past eight years or so, and has experienced everything. He's changed his playing style multiple times throughout his career, and while he doesn't have the most variety in his game, he can grind out matches, and has been for years.
He has a fiery attitude, more so than Hewitt even. I feel like Roddick's real attitude comes out in davis cup, where he is statistically one of the best davis cup players of all time. While I doubt we'll ever see him coaching someone (I could be wrong) I think it's not unlikely that he'll coach davis cup later in his career, or be connected in some other way.
Finally, I feel he is a very wise and experienced. He has played in the top ten for the past eight years or so, and has experienced everything. He's changed his playing style multiple times throughout his career, and while he doesn't have the most variety in his game, he can grind out matches, and has been for years.
Jason Vorhees
Banned
Except hewitt was more successful than roddick due to the fact that he won majors when noone was around. Not complaining but in the last 5 years roddick has been the better player, regardless on the H2H.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Didn't Hewitt beat Roddick en route to one of his majors? And Hewitt beat Sampras in his 1st major final, definitely more impressive than Roddick's GS victory. Don't say 'no one' was around.
Dude, Roddick just came onto the tour in 2001, and Sampras had statistically his worst year since he became a slam contender.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Agreed. I don't get the 'great tactics' people are seeing in Roddick's game, I kinda giggle when I hear people extolling the tactical virtues of Roddick's game.
Jason Vorhees
Banned
A bit like james blake with 3 slam QTF's.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Jason Vorhees
Banned
And that's relevant to this thread how...
Because your trashing a guy's tactics when he has been quite a successful player. Yes, roddick isn't the most tactical guy out on the circuit, but his game doesn't involve..............
Smack forehand
Smack backhand
Hit 10 unforced errors a game
Spray some more shots into the crowd
Wonder what you are doing wrong.
At least roddick doesn't beat himself like James Blake 3 slam QTR's does.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Read the thread title. This isn't a discussion on who would be a better coach Blake or Roddick. It's Hewitt or Roddick, so your cheap shot about Blake is quite irrelevant to the discussion.
Jason Vorhees
Banned
My 'cheap shot' at blake wasn't cheap, it was expensive and it was a fact.
JeMar
Legend
Wow, this guy didn't last long.
my_forehand
Professional
Reading the other thread about Roddick and Nadal complaining has led me to believe he may be mentally ill.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Of course he didn't...it was hatemachine/galatico/mannypacquiaop4pking/etc returned once again.
35ft6
Legend
Roddick gets a lot more free points, but I actually think Hewitt is the more talented player, he has better technique, and is a much better athlete. Once people realized if you get Roddick's serve back and batter his backhand, you have a chance, he had to really work hard to remain near the top. For better or worse, he plays different now than he used to. He's going back to more of a smash mouth style, but 2 years ago, he looked very different from the player he was when he was number 1. He developed new shots, tried to play a more all court game, attack more... he did give a lot of thought to tactics.
In general, I think less talented players have to work harder and think more and make for better coaches. And in this case, I think the dude who won his first pro tournament he ever played at the age of 16 is more talented. He was more of a natural. I watch Roddick and I don't necessarily see a lot of talent. I see a guy with a huge serve, big forehand, and lots of desire and heart. He's moving pretty good these days, but he never looked like a great athlete to me.
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Hewitt when he was world #1 was a superior tennis player than Andy Roddick when he was at the world #1 position. In fact, alot of people tend to forget that Hewitt when he was at his best actually hit ALOT of winners because of how well he moved and how he could just outmaneuver his opponent into a bad position.
JeMar
Legend
What I'm saying is that Hewitt's strengths are much more transferable than Roddick's. You can't just teach a kid to serve 150 miles an hour; however, you can teach a kid to anticipate well and you can help someone improve their foot speed by fixing their technique. I remember that, toward the end of his career, Agassi watched a lot of tape of Hewitt moving to try to emulate his technique.
Roddick could (pun coming!) "serve" (nyuk, nyuk) a youngster well if kid has certain talents, but I believe that Hewitt could benefit a greater number of players.
Roddick could (pun coming!) "serve" (nyuk, nyuk) a youngster well if kid has certain talents, but I believe that Hewitt could benefit a greater number of players.
Actually Hewitt would probably be the better coach. Here is a guy that never had a lot of weapons except speed and GUTS. And he's been around a long time and has been competitive the whole way. Roddick has had a lot of improvement though. Maybe in his last years he'll show even to be more of a complete player than he is now. Making him a better coach. But as of now... Hewitt.
zagor
Bionic Poster
I agree-one of the best return of serve and passing shots I've ever seen,great defense,great at absorbing pace,very good first serve,very good volleys etc.
Not just that he just used to hit the ball way harder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhKMzpdVcnE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1-uFBMmFo
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Leelord337
Hall of Fame
^^^i like the singles only lined courts
You know, you got a point and it was shown when Isner vs Hewitt and Hewitt won the toss and I figured he would serve, he choose to receive. And went on to beat Isner who has had a very good year, even including beating Roddick! So yeah his return of serve is excellent. In fact he beat teh crap out of Isner. I thought it would be a lot closer.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Man those videos bring back some memories,where'd Ferrero go? I know he had chicken pox and whatever but he dropped so low,was a shadow of himself last 5 years.Yeah,Hewitt's pretty agressive there,putting away short balls with his FH easily.
I also forgot to add that Hewitt has a sick topspin lob,also one of the best I've seen.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Yeah,Hewitt's return of serve is a killer,he usually eats serve and volleyers and big servers for breakfast.Although he always seem to have so much trouble against Ivo,I never understood why Karlovic is such a tough match-up for Hewitt,he's the type of player Hewitt usually thrives on playing against.
Wow i love those lines on the courts!
I am suprise so many ppl are picking Hewitt. First of all Roddick is a much better communicator which is very important as even all the wisdom in the world is not use if you can't convey it to your student. Second, Roddick seem (from stuff I've read) have more respect for coach and coaching. That aside, I also get the sense that he is has a high tennis IQ than he lets on. The reason he plays so one dimensional I think is because he knows (or thinks he knows) his limits. He don't have the same gifts as Rafa or Roger so he use his weapons as best as he can. For someone who a lot of ppl call "no game cept for a serve" he has certainly achieve more than you've expected.
Isn't it obvious? Karlovic has a much better serve than anyone else Hewitt has ever played. Hewitt destroyed Sampras 6-0 in a set before, yet he can't even dream about doing the same to the FAR superior Karlovic.
cigrmaster
Semi-Pro
Andy Roddick is too stupid to ever be a coach. In my 40 plus years of playing and watching tennis, I have never seen a bigger waste of talent.
He should have won 10 majors by now but he doesn't understand how to construct a point and how to use one of the most devastating weapons in the history of the game to his advantage.
I wouldn't let him coach juniors.
He should have won 10 majors by now but he doesn't understand how to construct a point and how to use one of the most devastating weapons in the history of the game to his advantage.
I wouldn't let him coach juniors.
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