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Specifically, I'm looking for some specific advice regarding switching and fetching lobs over my partner at the net. I noticed that your clip comes from the USPTA and was wondering whether they've filmed or produced some written instruction material on this matter.
Is this what the coaching manuals currently suggest, or do they advise differently?
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I was taught that at the lower levels players would often "switch" to cover behind each other. At the upper levels players were more skilled and more mobile, and should cover their own lobs.
I was taught that at the lower levels players would often "switch" to cover behind each other. At the upper levels players were more skilled and more mobile, and should cover their own lobs.
Tough one.... A good net player ... is going to recognize when they are screwed and getting lobbed. Typically if you are serving and I am at the net as your partner... If the lob is deep enough I should recognize that immediately and call yours... you ... cut over and take it out of the air ... Or if its good enough you have to track it down and I move back with you to keep both of us in a D position with no gap...
Specifically, I'm looking for some specific advice regarding switching and fetching lobs over my partner at the net. I noticed that your clip comes from the USPTA and was wondering whether they've filmed or produced some written instruction material on this matter.
I play mostly doubles, to a good standard (4.5). I can both place serves well and have a decent volley off both sides, so I generally come to the net on both 1st and 2nd serves. In that situation, I was taught that when the returner throws up a return lob, then it's up to each person to fetch it on their own sides.
This is particularly so on lobs over my partner at the net - because it's his job to specifically watch the returner opposite, so should see him preparing to execute a lob, and therefore has the time to adjust his own position to cover behind himself. Certainly, he has more time than me, because it'll only be when I split-step at the service line that I'll have the opportunity to check my own movement and then start moving diagonally and backwards to cover behind him.
It makes sense, in terms of distance to travel. At most, he only has to retreat back from the middle of the service box to the baseline on his side, and I from the service line to my side of the baseline. Also, his moving back to cover gives me time to assess the depth of the lob and the likely quality of his play - if it's deep and he can only play defensively, then I go back and we defend two-back; but if I can see he can play a smash and return back up to the net, then I can easily adjust my own positioning so we both get back to the net as one unit.
By comparison, the automatic switch doesn't seem as effective. If the netperson simply switches sides at the net, then that leaves us 1-up-1-behind and creates a gap in the diagonal between us. If the lob is not deep and I can make an attacking play, then by the same token (if he'd gone back) he could have done the same and I could have continued my motion to the net keeping the players on the other side of the court in view and covering the gaps. But if the lob is deep, then either he stays stranded up front or after moving across he now has to retreat to cover my side of the baseline. In simple terms, keeping the cover movements as backwards and forwards is less distance and much more efficient than having to cover "backwards and diagonally across".
I was taught that the only time I should cover behind my partner against a lob return is when - because of the frequency of this type of return, to a good depth - we as a team had agreed that I would serve and stay back (rather than S&V). If so, then it would be my job to cover the lob, and my partner's job would be to assess its depth and decide whether a simple switch across was enough or whether he needed to retreat diagonally back to the baseline - essentially, get himself in the right place for our next play (stay up if I could move in after playing the lob, or come back all the way if we had to defend from the baseline).
Is this what the coaching manuals currently suggest, or do they advise differently?
I was taught that at the lower levels players would often "switch" to cover behind each other. At the upper levels players were more skilled and more mobile, and should cover their own lobs.
Specifically, I'm looking for some specific advice regarding switching and fetching lobs over my partner at the net. I noticed that your clip comes from the USPTA and was wondering whether they've filmed or produced some written instruction material on this matter.
I play mostly doubles, to a good standard (4.5). I can both place serves well and have a decent volley off both sides, so I generally come to the net on both 1st and 2nd serves. In that situation, I was taught that when the returner throws up a return lob, then it's up to each person to fetch it on their own sides.
This is particularly so on lobs over my partner at the net - because it's his job to specifically watch the returner opposite, so should see him preparing to execute a lob, and therefore has the time to adjust his own position to cover behind himself. Certainly, he has more time than me, because it'll only be when I split-step at the service line that I'll have the opportunity to check my own movement and then start moving diagonally and backwards to cover behind him.
It makes sense, in terms of distance to travel. At most, he only has to retreat back from the middle of the service box to the baseline on his side, and I from the service line to my side of the baseline. Also, his moving back to cover gives me time to assess the depth of the lob and the likely quality of his play - if it's deep and he can only play defensively, then I go back and we defend two-back; but if I can see he can play a smash and return back up to the net, then I can easily adjust my own positioning so we both get back to the net as one unit.
By comparison, the automatic switch doesn't seem as effective. If the netperson simply switches sides at the net, then that leaves us 1-up-1-behind and creates a gap in the diagonal between us. If the lob is not deep and I can make an attacking play, then by the same token (if he'd gone back) he could have done the same and I could have continued my motion to the net keeping the players on the other side of the court in view and covering the gaps. But if the lob is deep, then either he stays stranded up front or after moving across he now has to retreat to cover my side of the baseline. In simple terms, keeping the cover movements as backwards and forwards is less distance and much more efficient than having to cover "backwards and diagonally across".
I was taught that the only time I should cover behind my partner against a lob return is when - because of the frequency of this type of return, to a good depth - we as a team had agreed that I would serve and stay back (rather than S&V). If so, then it would be my job to cover the lob, and my partner's job would be to assess its depth and decide whether a simple switch across was enough or whether he needed to retreat diagonally back to the baseline - essentially, get himself in the right place for our next play (stay up if I could move in after playing the lob, or come back all the way if we had to defend from the baseline).
Is this what the coaching manuals currently suggest, or do they advise differently?
I like to place blame on the guy on our team who hit the short approach or weak groundie ...... :shock::evil::evil::evil:
Generally, the team lobbed can tell whether the lob must be bounced. If so, both players go back. Then it depends on who recognizes it first and gets the better jump.
Frequently, the server sees the lob coming and aborts his approach in case the lob gets over his partner's overhead. Sometimes, the net player thinks he has an overhead until the last second and, instead, bounces it. Then he'll return the lob.