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Yep, my favorite joke is about a poll on here as to who looks better in a skirt--Jennifer Anniston or Federer.
Federer wins.
There can only be one winner here.
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Yep, my favorite joke is about a poll on here as to who looks better in a skirt--Jennifer Anniston or Federer.
Federer wins.
Is this the latest list? Is Lendl that close to Fed?
Is this the latest list? Is Lendl that close to Fed?
Why is Borg even in that list? Passing shots? Consistency? Was his FH a dominator in the 1970's?
There can only be one winner here.
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Just one example off the top of my head is Arthur Ashe who mentioned in '76 that Borg was regarded as having the world's best forehand.Borg's forehand was considered by many to be the best of the 1970's and in his day perhaps the best of all time. There have been videos comparing Federer's and Borg's forehand showing the similarities.
Doesn't Jennifer have a better forehand than Federer? I like her overall form when she hits a forehand much better than Federer. lol.
Clearly Jennifer Anniston has the greatest forehand form of all time. Laver, Borg, Federer all pale in comparison to the awesome Anniston forehand form.
Hahaha, I laughed out loud; funny.
It is definitely fair to say that had Jennifer Aniston not taken up acting that she would have become by far the greatest tennis player of all time, of this there can be no doubt.
Aniston wins.
The thread can now end.
Just one example off the top of my head is Arthur Ashe who mentioned in '76 that Borg was regarded as having the world's best forehand.
There's not enough data on the Aniston forehand to say one way or another. I personally have never seen it, so I'm withholding judgment.I'm glad we are all in agreement here. This is proof positive. Some uninformed people may disagree but they would be wrong.
Doesn't Jennifer have a better forehand than Federer? I like her overall form when she hits a forehand much better than Federer. lol.
Clearly Jennifer Anniston has the greatest forehand form of all time. Laver, Borg, Federer all pale in comparison to the awesome Anniston forehand form.
What was that thread (subsequently removed by the mods) about that Florida hacker who once "beat Vilas." Everyone jumped on it to prove he was the GOAT. (It was hilarious.)Hahaha, I laughed out loud; funny.
It is definitely fair to say that had Jennifer Aniston not taken up acting that she would have become by far the greatest tennis player of all time, of this there can be no doubt.
I'm glad we are all resisting the urge to take this thread in a erotically suggestive direction.Agreed! sweetest stroke of all time haha
People, when you bring up quotes from ex-players, please state what the date was being published. If the quote was dated back in the 50’s, then it doesn’t have much weigh since its way out of date. People don’t hold the same point of view forever because new generation added to discussion, which can change their mind.
Where's this video?One last thing, after watching that excellent video of Lendl and the Fed, do you notice how Fed follows thru completely around his body while Lendl stopped his follow thru much sooner to prepare for ready position. Just interesting. Both great ones but different FH's for sure.
verdasco's forehand is bigger than nadals, He, Fed and Monfils probably have the biggest forehands on tour today.
Roddick has that extreme forehand grip, which is risky for players with around 130 mph serves. It takes him longer for his strokes, while players like James Blake and Federer have a shorter swing to counter hard serves.
Lleyton Hewitt, Blake, and Federer have the best forehands currently, not so sure about all time
cool video on Blake's forehand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kluhYnSlGZU
Lleyton Hewitt has nowhere near one of the best forehands on tour right now. There are at least 15 guys with much better forehands. Blake's is much too erratic to be one of the best. Zero net clearance, he just goes for broke as flat as possible.
Roddick has that extreme forehand grip, which is risky for players with around 130 mph serves. It takes him longer for his strokes, while players like James Blake and Federer have a shorter swing to counter hard serves.
Lleyton Hewitt, Blake, and Federer have the best forehands currently, not so sure about all time
cool video on Blake's forehand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kluhYnSlGZU
Hoodjem,
Great that you have Tom Okker there on the list. His forehand was very unique and a great weapon. Arthur Ashe used to write that for a period of time every year, Tom Okker would become the best player in the world. A great talent and it's a shame he never won a major. He won a lot of tournaments and he's better than many that won majors.
Where's this video?
On average, yes.I feel modern players are a little bit underrated on this list. I have noticed many people here have lamented the decline in netplay in the current game. When there is a discussion for greatest volleys in this forum, no modern players are even considered, which is probably reasonable. But shouldn't the decline in net play have lead to an increase in baseline prowess? After all, players are hitting more groundstrokes than ever before. I think it is reasonable to assume that players on average have better groundstrokes now, just as players in the past were better volleyers.
1. Federer
2. Segura
3. Lendl
4. Sampras
5. Borg
6. Nadal
7. Laver
8. Agassi
9. Courier
10. Cochet
11. Tilden
12. Perry
13. Budge
14. Santana
15. Okker
16. Johnston
17. Nastase
18. Vines
19. Gonzales
20. Kramer
21. Becker
22. Safin
23. del Potro
24. Blake
25. Moya
I feel modern players are a little bit underrated on this list. I have noticed many people here have lamented the decline in netplay in the current game. When there is a discussion for greatest volleys in this forum, no modern players are even considered, which is probably reasonable. But shouldn't the decline in net play have lead to an increase in baseline prowess? After all, players are hitting more groundstrokes than ever before. I think it is reasonable to assume that players on average have better groundstrokes now, just as players in the past were better volleyers.
Excellent points President. However in looking at the list I'm not sure if the modern player (from what year would we called modern, I'm not sure) is underrepresented. Hoodjem has Federer number one and he's clearly modern, Sampras and Lendl are there plus Nadal, Agassi and Courier in the top ten. So six of the top ten can be called modern in my mind. If we talk about just the players playing today we have Federer and Nadal. That's two out the top ten for one era. Considering that tennis has been around a long time, two out of ten is pretty good. And Agassi and Sampras have only retired within the last seven plus years. Agassi less than that. Moya is even at number twenty five and he's definitely modern and played some this year with bad results in general. However Moya is a former number one on the computer. And the list includes Safin at twenty-two, del Potro at twenty-three, Blake at number 24 and Becker at twenty-one. I think eleven out of twenty-five can be considered modern. That's not too bad.
I agree that the list contains many modern players, but I feel that there should be even more (and they should be higher ranked). The level of groundstrokes has really gone way up (just as volleying skill has gone way down in singles). To use a more modern example, I don't think one can justify putting Jim Courier above JMDP. Courier has obviously had a more succesful career, but I found it hard for anyone who has watched both of them (particularly after Del Potro has come into his own) to say Courier has the better forehand. I think there is some bias here towards Courier's (for now) greater achievements and status as a great of the game.
^^^Was Courier thus the first one-dimensional player, with little more than a forehand?
Wait, is that Pancho Gonzales or Fernando Gonzalez?
Federer has a pretty good one.
Funny. Good one.no berdych?
and to be fair...you should go
1. Federer
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2. Segura
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Lots of talk about volleys, backhands, groundstrokes in general, etc. On another post, 35ft6 was saying that Fed definitely had one of the five best forehands of all time, I agreed with him.
So here we go--
1. Federer
2. Segura
3. Lendl
4. Sampras
5. Borg
6. Nadal
7. Laver
8. Agassi
9. Courier
10. Cochet
11. Tilden
12. Perry
13. Budge
14. Santana
15. Okker
16. Johnston
17. Nastase
18. Vines
19. Gonzales
20. Kramer
21. Becker
22. Safin
23. del Potro
24. Blake
25. Moya
Both Jimmy Arias and Alberto Berasategui have to be top 10 on ANY list..
Where is Connors backhand on the GOAT BH list? Isn't it second or third?
There's a good indicator of how good was Segura's forehand.
Neither do I. I do believe that Fed has more variety in his forehand. That's why I place it at no. 1.I don't think there is a huge gap between the Federer forehand and some in the top ten of the list as some have indicated.