Hawaii Five-O

r2473

G.O.A.T.
^^Maybe you're right. Still, I don't think we need to get excited because somebody opened another "McDonalds".
 

Dilettante

Hall of Fame
Anyone else catch the new version/re-make of Hawaii Five-O on CBS on Monday night?

I thought it was AWESOME and maybe even better than the original series. It was like watching a big budget action movie.

You can see what made this series so popular in the 70's (ran for 12 seasons): Beautiful scenery, big waves, sunny beaches, babes in bikinis, cool cops, etc. And, of course, the iconic line that became part of the American lexicon - "Book 'em, Dano!" Also the best opening theme music/song in TV history! :)

AWSUM!!!

Now you wait for the next Perry Como LP and life will be even more AWSUM!!!
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Wow, given your surname, I am surprised by your post. In the original version, McGarrett ordered around "Chin," as if Chin were his butler. "Chin, check out his record, or Chin, call the coroner." I wouldn't have been surprised if McGarrett ordered Chin to pick up his laundry.
Or even DO his laundry. :shock:

Man, can't you see the difference with the current "5-0" show? Daniel Dae Kim's character is definitely more empowered and masculine than the original guy. (apologies to the original actor, I know you had to work within certain constraints)
That would be Kam Fong.

Remember the opening credits? They always had a shot of him with- "Kam Fong as Chin Ho". My brother used to wonder why they didn't just let him use his real name in the show, since most Americans probably wouldn't know the difference anyway. :)
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
AWSUM!!!

Now you wait for the next Perry Como LP and life will be even more AWSUM!!!
Um...Perry Como is dead so how could he possibly make another LP? :???:

I'd bet if John Lennon and George Harrison came back to life and got together with Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr and made another brand new Beatles album, you'd find that just as passe, right? :oops: :???:
 

Dilettante

Hall of Fame
Um...Perry Como is dead so how could he possibly make another LP? :???:

Oh man, you're sharp.

I'd bet if John Lennon and George Harrison came back to life and got together with Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr and made another brand new Beatles album, you'd find that just as passe, right? :oops: :???:

Who knows, it could happen to be an album with 12 "Ob-la-di ob-la-da"'s style songs.
 
I'm sure I heard Dr. Kenneth Dickerson speak at a University once on some facet of ancient lore
He started by explaining in his introduction how appropriate the setting was for his lecture- an "Auditorium" because of his own loose Latin translation

"To speak"- Audio and Torium (or Taurus) "The bull"

Brilliant man....that Wo Fat

2nd only to Victor Buono as the heaviest heavy.
 
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HiroProtagonist

Professional
Oh that's so clever of you to point this out. In case you haven't been aware of network TV for the last 20 years, risky doesn't work for the popular taste. Out-of-the-mainstream stuff on TV usually goes onto independent film channels and other avenues.

Jeez, I thought tennis players were more sophisticated than this.

Ya, gosh thinking is discouraged in the mainstream, so why try?:roll:
 

mtommer

Hall of Fame
I just got done watching the first two episodes. I'm not sure how it will fare with today's TV viewing audience. Personally, I think the acting is pretty decent, the budget pretty nice and overall good and mindless but entertaining viewing, just like the original. The two lead stars are already doing a decent job with the comedic bantering back and forth. All in all it's pretty faithful to the original and the nice thing is that it isn't trying to "be" anything trendy. It's just overall good fun.
 

HiroProtagonist

Professional
I just got done watching the first two episodes. I'm not sure how it will fare with today's TV viewing audience. Personally, I think the acting is pretty decent, the budget pretty nice and overall good and mindless but entertaining viewing, just like the original. The two lead stars are already doing a decent job with the comedic bantering back and forth. All in all it's pretty faithful to the original and the nice thing is that it isn't trying to "be" anything trendy. It's just overall good fun.

It's actually kinda trying to be Burn Notice, good show incidentally.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
I'm sure I heard Dr. Kenneth Dickerson speak at a University once on some facet of ancient lore
He started by explaining in his introduction how appropriate the setting was for his lecture- an "Auditorium" because of his own loose Latin translation

"To speak"- Audio and Torium (or Taurus) "The bull"

Brilliant man....that Wo Fat
2nd only to Victor Buono as the heaviest heavy.

Are we forgetting Fat B@stard and Jabba the Hutt?


It's actually kinda trying to be Burn Notice, good show incidentally.

Hmmm, hadn't really noticed the resemblance. I'll have to watch more BN.

Trivia: Any one know which of the new 5-0 task force played a starring role in a series that was somewhat reminiscent of "Forever Knight"? (Possible cookie awarded for the 1st correct answer).
 

SVP

Semi-Pro
That would be Kam Fong.

Remember the opening credits? They always had a shot of him with- "Kam Fong as Chin Ho". My brother used to wonder why they didn't just let him use his real name in the show, since most Americans probably wouldn't know the difference anyway. :)
I had to laugh at your observation, in spite of my sensitivities. That was a good one. Can you imagine when Mr. Fong reported for work on 5-0 the first day, the director said to him "Kam Fong, you are playing Chin Ho." What was the look on Mr. Fong's face when he was told this?
 

SVP

Semi-Pro
They would if that new McDonald's served Hawaiian BBQ and had babes in bikinis working behind the counters. :)
McDonald's in Hawaii serves saimen noodles, fried spam and eggs for breakfast with rice (if you so desire). Guaranteed to shut down your arteries prematurely but it goes down good.
 

SVP

Semi-Pro
I'm sure I heard Dr. Kenneth Dickerson speak at a University once on some facet of ancient lore
He started by explaining in his introduction how appropriate the setting was for his lecture- an "Auditorium" because of his own loose Latin translation

"To speak"- Audio and Torium (or Taurus) "The bull"

Brilliant man....that Wo Fat

2nd only to Victor Buono as the heaviest heavy.

Mr. Manfred, it would help if you would have tied Dr. Dickerson to his role as Wo Fat in Hawaii 5-0. They were one and the same, as I've just learned.

Anyone else note Dr. Dickerson (aka Khigh Dhiegh) as the villain in the original "The Manchurian Candidate?" When I first saw that movie in grade school, I wondered why this Asian actor didn't have a sing-song Chinaman accent.
 

mtommer

Hall of Fame
McDonald's in Hawaii serves saimen noodles, fried spam and eggs for breakfast with rice (if you so desire). Guaranteed to shut down your arteries prematurely but it goes down good.

I've seen some of the Pizza Hut commercials during SopCast feeds of the Slams. If it wasn't for the "roof" symbol of Pizza Hut, you'd never know it was that. The same thing held true for KFC.
 

SVP

Semi-Pro
I've seen some of the Pizza Hut commercials during SopCast feeds of the Slams. If it wasn't for the "roof" symbol of Pizza Hut, you'd never know it was that. The same thing held true for KFC.
By referencing the Hawaiian delicacies (e.g., fried spam and eggs) which can even be found at McDonald's in Hawaii, I was merely commenting on foods which can be found in Hawaii. C'mon people from Hawaii, I'm just a katonk.
 

CCNM

Hall of Fame
I decided to give the new H5o a chance yesterday, and I have softened a bit. It's not that bad. I'm sure Mr. Lord, Mr. Fong, and the guy who played Kono are smiling down from Heaven. I, too, don't understand why this Danny is such a whiner. I think the original Dan-o is still alive-they should have him do a guest spot. Also, at the end of the show, as in the original, they describe the next episode and then say "be there. aloha". They should use Jack Lord's old voiceover for that.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
I decided to give the new H5o a chance yesterday, and I have softened a bit. It's not that bad. I'm sure Mr. Lord, Mr. Fong, and the guy who played Kono are smiling down from Heaven. I, too, don't understand why this Danny is such a whiner. I think the original Dan-o is still alive-they should have him do a guest spot. Also, at the end of the show, as in the original, they describe the next episode and then say "be there. aloha". They should use Jack Lord's old voiceover for that.
Wow, I don't know how I missed that. :(

The CBS promos have been advertising Hawaii Five-0 as "THE #1 NEW SHOW ON TV". I assume it's true. BTW, in last night's episode, they explained where the "Five-0" name came from and hinted they may use that name for their team in the future. ;-)

Did you see the first episode? I still think it was the best one so far, especially the opening sequence which was just like a big budget action movie. I also wonder why Dano switched from driving the Mustang with the perfect "5.0" emblems on the sides to driving a generic Camaro? Bad trade-in. :)
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
... I, too, don't understand why this Danny is such a whiner...

What is this whinning you refer to? I don't see it. It appears that the character has strong opinions & convictions. Ppl on these forums tend to characterize someone as whinning when they happen to express a POV that differs from their own (or someone elses).
 

jorel

Hall of Fame
i dont like that Dano guy..

tennis hater.

and why would u want to get your daughter into football anyway????

so she can get her Clavicle broken???
 

CCNM

Hall of Fame
What is this whinning you refer to? I don't see it. It appears that the character has strong opinions & convictions. Ppl on these forums tend to characterize someone as whinning when they happen to express a POV that differs from their own (or someone elses).

I guess he talks too much-I don't know.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
I guess he talks too much-I don't know.

I actually like that about this Dnano. He strongly disagrees with the way that McGarret chooses to do some things. It would be boring or, at least, less interesting if Danno went along with everything that Steve had to say or do. It adds to the tension and interactions of the characters. We've got something of a bro-mance in the making here.
 

Xisbum

Semi-Pro
The first Hawaii 5-0 was pretty boring. I don't know how anybody could say it was better.
Uh, something happened between Hawaii 5.0 1.0 and Hawaii 5.0 2.0 - like the 80s, 90s and the aughts :)

I personally think any comparisons between what happened back then and modern products should be prefaced by "in its day." Keeps things on the proper context.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
3rd show was good. Less whining from midget Caan.

That's cool that they say "be there, aloha." I don't watch the previews because I don't trust them not to give too much away.
 

mtommer

Hall of Fame
I also wonder why Dano switched from driving the Mustang with the perfect "5.0" emblems on the sides to driving a generic Camaro? Bad trade-in. :)

I think Ford didn't want to pony :)D) up for the exclusivity contract? No idea really but I too noticed that the 5.0 is now absent and I don't think I saw any FORD cars in Ep 3.
 
Uh, something happened between Hawaii 5.0 1.0 and Hawaii 5.0 2.0 - like the 80s, 90s and the aughts :)

I personally think any comparisons between what happened back then and modern products should be prefaced by "in its day." Keeps things on the proper context.

Uh, there's shows in the same time period that weren't boring :).
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
^ The show lasted for 12 full seasons and garnered a very respectable 7.6 overall rating from over 1000 IMDb users. Not too shabby for a boring show. It must have had some redeeming entertainment value.


i dont like that Dano guy..

tennis hater...

I actually found the exchange rather amusing. I've heard tennis players and other say much worse things about badminton. Ya' just gotta keep a sense of humor about these things.

I loved the way that Danno covered Gracie's ears as he badmouthed her step-dad, the country club and tennis...

Steve: What's wrong with tennis, Danny?
Danny: I'll tell you what's wrong with tennis. It can be played on a table, which makes it an activity, and not a sport...
Gracie: Da-a-ad, I can still hear you.
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^ The show lasted for 12 full seasons and garnered a very respectable 7.6 overall rating from over 1000 IMDb users. Not too shabby for a boring show. It must have had some redeeming entertainment value.

I respect your opinion more if you didn't use imdb.com, and just said you liked it :lol:. Don't force me to pull up crap that's high rated on there and good stuff that's rated crap. But then again your username is SystemicAnomaly so you get a free pass.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
^ I seriously doubt that you would have respected my opinion if I had merely said that I like the old series (but prefer the newer one). Even if IMDb has no weight with you, you cannot argue with the show running for 12 yrs -- it must have had something for that much staying power.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
The original Hawaii Five-O was a VERY popular show throughout the 70's. Many people watched it all the time.
 

SVP

Semi-Pro
Boring?

Uh, there's shows in the same time period that weren't boring :).
Yes, the original Hawaii 5-0 was so boring that current Hollywood powers saw fit to bring it back as a new series. And since it lasted for 12 years, I guess the TV viewing audience during that time boringly watched this show for 12 years week night after week night.

It's tough for me to take Scott Caan as Dano. I know the producers are counting on Caan as a foil to McGarrett, but I can't get Cann's character in Entourage out of my head. Total degenerate without any redeeming qualities. If he hooks up with Grace Park's character on the show, I will bail on this show.
 

MAXXply

Hall of Fame
The original Hawaii Five-O was a VERY popular show throughout the 70's. Many people watched it all the time.

+1
I was unaware of the remake but it's unsurprising after Starsky and Hutch, Miami Vice et.al. I loved the original Five-O and bought the DVDs to reminisce:

-the photography of Honolulu seemed to capture the place at a real funky time (ok, anything filmed in the 70s was funky) and it was an eye opener to the island's diversity. Some of the outdoor scenes featuring luxury estates were really cool, like the pad/estate owned by Ricardo Montalban's badguy character and you got a great idea of the urban sprawl encroaching on the island when they showed shoot-outs on some new development site overlooking the sea. Magnum P.I for me didn't really have that visual effect as Five-O did.

-The cute 70s babes were great viewing for this pubescent viewer at the time.

-I don't have the latter seasons so I don't recall what wheels McGarret drove at series end but I think my fave was the massive black Ford Whatever sedan (seen in s.1 and 2) or whatever it was that looked like a black Lincoln Continental with those "handclap doors"

-McGarret sure seemed to spend a lot of time in his office (or errr, the Burbank studio set) when he wasn't out on the street.
 
^ I seriously doubt that you would have respected my opinion
Thanks for calling me a liar because I didn't like a TV show you liked :neutral:.

Yes, the original Hawaii 5-0 was so boring that current Hollywood powers saw fit to bring it back as a new series. And since it lasted for 12 years, I guess the TV viewing audience during that time boringly watched this show for 12 years week night after week night.

I know my comment would incur the wrath of all the old-timers. Your first statement is a logical fallacy, because you are implying that only good shows are reincarnated. Your second statement is a logical fallacy also, as you are implying that length of air time automatically makes something good. But look, if it makes you that defensive for someone to call a TV show you liked "boring," maybe you have bigger problems. :)
 
Alright, before any more of you golden oldies jump on me, I loved the original Mission Impossible series.

See, I'm not all bad. :mrgreen:
 

SVP

Semi-Pro
I know(sic) my comment would incur the wrath of all the old-timers. Your first statement is a logical fallacy, because you are implying that only good shows are reincarnated. Your second statement is a logical fallacy also, as you are implying that length of air time automatically makes something good. But look, if it makes you that defensive for someone to call a TV show you liked "boring," maybe you have bigger problems. :)
My Savior, I note that from your birth date, which is 7+ years older than mine, don't you fall within the age zone of "old-timers?"
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
-I don't have the latter seasons so I don't recall what wheels McGarret drove at series end but I think my fave was the massive black Ford Whatever sedan (seen in s.1 and 2) or whatever it was that looked like a black Lincoln Continental with those "handclap doors"
McGarrett drove a black Mercury Marquis for most of the series. My mom actually drove a yellow one in the late 70's. :)
 

Xisbum

Semi-Pro
I know my comment would incur the wrath of all the old-timers. :)

No wrath, man, just a healthy difference of opinion. :)

And I, too, loved the original Mission Impossible and the original Star Trek. The Tommie Cruise movie made absolutely no sense to me since Jim Phelps would never, ever betray his IM team. :)
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
...

I know my comment would incur the wrath of all the old-timers. Your first statement is a logical fallacy, because you are implying that only good shows are reincarnated. Your second statement is a logical fallacy also, as you are implying that length of air time automatically makes something good. But look, if it makes you that defensive for someone to call a TV show you liked "boring," maybe you have bigger problems. :)

Popular shows are re-incarnated. Why are they popular? Certainly not cuz they are boring. Good is relative. Good or not (in your opinion), it lasted cuz it had entertainment value. The Nielsen rating system would have killed off the show if no one was watching.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Re-incarnation usually entails modification to suit the times. Guys who are all good battling guys who are all bad is no longer acceptable. We now require our heros to be complex. Batman becomes the Dark (brooding) Knight. The next Superman film will reportedly give us a more complex Superman with some connection to Zod. Bond becomes Bourne, The Wizard of Oz shows up on Broadway as Wicked, the witch's tale. Dexter gave us a serial killer we root for. Five-0 will need to to continue this trend to hold our interest.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Wow! Opening last night's 4th episode with The Rolling Stones' "Gimmie Shelter". It doesn't get any better than this. :)

The rest of the show was very exciting and riveting as well with some great scenery of the mountains, wilderness, and waterfalls of Hawaii.

Oh, and now I know why I've been missing the "Be there! Aloha!" at the end of the previews for next week. It's because my local CBS station cuts off the very end of those previews so all I heard tonight was "Be......" :(
 

MAXXply

Hall of Fame
Wow! Opening last night's 4th episode with The Rolling Stones' "Gimmie Shelter". It doesn't get any better than this. :)

Sorry if I missed it but is it the same kickin' Morton Stevens' theme arrangement but re-worked? Or is the theme music entirely new?
Is McGarrett still introduced from the penthouse balcony of a highrise hotel? And are the "automobiles" still "furnished by Ford"?:)
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Sorry if I missed it but is it the same kickin' Morton Stevens' theme arrangement but re-worked? Or is the theme music entirely new?
Is McGarrett still introduced from the penthouse balcony of a highrise hotel? And are the "automobiles" still "furnished by Ford"?:)
The theme song is still the same one as the original. But in the latest episode, they begun the 1st scene with the Stones' Gimmie Shelter (the original song and not a cover) as the background music. After the initial scene, then they cut to the opening credits with the original Hawaii Five-0 theme song. Yes, Steve McGarrett is still shown turning around on a high-rise balcony. :)

In the first episode, Dano drove a Ford Mustang with the "5.0" emblem (for 5.0 liter V-8 engine) on the sides. Perfect car for this show I must say. :) But later episodes had him and McGarrett both driving new Chevy Camaros. :(

BTW, check this out: http://promotions.mardenkane.com/cbs/marchingbandmania/index.cfm
It's college marching bands all over the U.S. playing the Hawaii Five-0 theme song.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
A bit of insight about the theme music:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Five-0#Music

It appears that the new series is doing quite well in the Nielsen and DVR ratings:

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings



Re-incarnation usually entails modification to suit the times. Guys who are all good battling guys who are all bad is no longer acceptable. We now require our heros to be complex. Batman becomes the Dark (brooding) Knight. The next Superman film will reportedly give us a more complex Superman with some connection to Zod. Bond becomes Bourne, The Wizard of Oz shows up on Broadway as Wicked, the witch's tale. Dexter gave us a serial killer we root for. Five-0 will need to to continue this trend to hold our interest.
Love the insight here. I guess that TV viewing is maturing... somewhat.
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