Newcombe: "Djokovic is really going to struggle the first six months of next year"
vernonbc
Legend
The hypocrisy on this board is too funny for words. "An almost win does not count"???? Have you seen the gazillion posts that have talked about all of Fed's hypothetical 'almost wins'?
Bobby Jr
G.O.A.T.
It's basically only four weeks until these guys need to be playing at 100% - so that will be barely six weeks since Djokovic was seriously struggling with a shoulder niggle. It is entirely feasible, if that was related to the amount of playing he did that it will not be at 100% until October as it was this year - especially since the first few months of the year are gruelling in terms of court conditions. It would only take the slightest niggle - costing him a few % on his serve - for Djokovic to be struggling to defend many thousands of points over the course of the first half of the year.
If that happened then just who is primed to pick up those points or whether they will get split amongst a group is yet to be seen.
If that happened then just who is primed to pick up those points or whether they will get split amongst a group is yet to be seen.
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Hall of Fame
Peter Bodo:
"Although Djokovic's level of mid-2011 may be impossible to sustain, his decline in the fall has not only given him plenty of time for rest and rehab, it's also apt to make him hungry and more eager to get rolling in 2012. And that has to make the other members of tennis' big four somewhat uneasy, especially when you factor in the degree in which those hard courts in Melbourne love Djokovic's game."
http://espn.go.com/tennis/blog/_/name/bodo_peter/id/7335155/tennis-novak-djokovic-doldrums-best
"Although Djokovic's level of mid-2011 may be impossible to sustain, his decline in the fall has not only given him plenty of time for rest and rehab, it's also apt to make him hungry and more eager to get rolling in 2012. And that has to make the other members of tennis' big four somewhat uneasy, especially when you factor in the degree in which those hard courts in Melbourne love Djokovic's game."
http://espn.go.com/tennis/blog/_/name/bodo_peter/id/7335155/tennis-novak-djokovic-doldrums-best
Bobby Jr
G.O.A.T.
Bobo is a muppet.
Djokovic was last playing, with an injured shoulder, only a few days before Federer, Tsonga, Berdych etc's last competitive matches. His rest/recovery time is basically no different to any of those guys.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
I'll elaborate then. It means that Roger can have a chance to sniff the fingers of Nadal, with his nose, after they've been used on his arse crack/bum **** thing. By extension, that Federer might not be so far away from the top spot again, but currently his nose isn't close at all to Nadal's well used digits.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
I hope paramedics are deployed when said event occurs. That will not be a Lindt 90% Excellence aroma.
nadalwon2012
Banned
When Bobo is on board, you know something bad is about to happen. Just ask Andy Murray...
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
anyone who doesnt have their head up their azz with ****ism can clearly see that 2012 will be a wide open season.
all of the big 4 have questions about them, not to mention guys like tsonga, berdych and delpo who could step up and if not snag a major, at least overturn the apple cart with upsets.
I dont believe at all that djoker 'tanked' everything post the US open( although I admit its possible). I think he does have legit physical concerns. I think rafa's game is questionable at the moment and who knows where his body is going physically. Who knows if Fed has enough to last at majors anymore, who knows where Murray will be mentally.
Lots of legit questions for 2012.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
6-4 6-0.
Or was that 6-3 6-0 ? Why can't I recall.
p.s. Rafa fans talk about a different kind of "chocolate factory". That's another difference between the two.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
I heard the Fed chocolate factory also makes Lindt chocolate covered bagels as well.
Senti already mentioned this, I think.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Nadal's game sure wasn't lacking vs Del Potro Davis Cup.
Clarky21
Banned
Yes it was in every single aspect. He did not play that well,and was fortunate that Delpo was tired from playing a long match against Ferrer,otherwise he probably would have been straight setted.
nadalwon2012
Banned
There goes your 'credibility'.
Crisstti
Legend
Rafa played a fantastic match in sets 2 and 3.
DjokovicForTheWin
Banned
If Nadal doesn't hit 30 winners and 0 UE then Clarky thinks he played badly. So one can kind of understands her perspective no matter how stupid it may be.
CDestroyer
Professional
He is going to be vulnerable to many players in 2012. I would enjoy seeing Fed kick his ass on a grass, clay and any other surface.
Djokovic has exposed how to easily beat Nadal.
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celoft
Guest
Grinders like Nadal/Djokovic don't have longevity in the sport.
Crisstti
Legend
They don't need to have it to do well next year. They're still only 24/25.
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celoft
Guest
Grinders are usually done and dusted once they hit 27.
I don't see either of these players winning slams at 27+....
Crisstti
Legend
I'm not so sure we can call them grinders (though admittedly I was unaware of the term until I read it in these forums). Is that supposed to mean simply that they're mainly defensive players?. Because it's not like they don't play aggressively too.
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celoft
Guest
Djokovic used to play much more aggressively in 2007/2008.
CDestroyer
Professional
Newcombe is really going to struggle with his depends under garments next year. Crapping himself at the drop of a hat.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Interesting isn't it, how Nadal will end up dominating Roland Garros (the most physically demanding slam of all) longer than Federer dominated any of the 4 slams....
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
speaking of butthurt...
so much hateful posts in this thread. is this guy not allowed to give his opinions? *******s certainly talk about pro-Nadal opinions as if theyre revelations from God..
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
Dude, it's no different from pro-Fed talk and a sub-set of which are Rafa hate talk, so stop playing a holier than thou attitude. Bygones.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
30 winners in each point, boy !! Clark's standards sure are high !!!
hoodjem
G.O.A.T.
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
She doesn't play the actual tennis, Senti. Maybe Wii.
DjokovicForTheWin
Banned
Dream Match Pro is the best I think.
Clarky21
Banned
Not really. He was still hitting short and defending as if his life depended on it. Not to mention how crappy his backhand was. The fourth set(and obviously the first set)was a disaster,and he was lucky to win it.
tusharlovesrafa
Hall of Fame
you seem to be obsessed with rafa(i must admit every chick dreams of him so nothing new here)..hence such high rate of posting..u r his secret admirer..c'mon u gotta admit this publicly.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
If Federer had any guts, Nadal would not have won Wimbledon in 2008 either. :lol:
Clarky21
Banned
Lol,you are really starting to fall off the deep end,dude. You better catch yourself before tumble completely off.
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
I guess you failed to catch yourself off or nobody bothered with you, huh mama, lol.
Clarky21
Banned
While you may not like what I post,at least they don't look as if I have had one too many meetings with Jose Cuervo. Lol. Plus he has been replying to my posts all day with strange,barely decipherable stuff. What do expect me to say,"papa"? :lol:
nadalwon2012
Banned
There are subtler ways to imply that Nadal is doping, you know...
I'm implying that Federer has a bigger longevity problem than Nadal, considering Nadal is dominating RG for longer than Federer dominated any of the slams.
DjokovicForTheWin
Banned
Doesn't Fed have 6 slams on grass and Nadal 6 on clay?
OddJack
G.O.A.T.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, and they are stupid too for the most part. At the end of the day it is the win that matters.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
I agree Bodo is a muppet but I think he is correct that the Djokovic injury post USO has been blown out of proportion and Djokovic has had plenty of rest time. Djokovic will be the favorite at the AO and I for one do not doubt that he will be in good form for the AO. If he is not, Nadal and Federer will obviously benefit.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
You must be blind then. In any case, Nadal's form on clay at the DC means nothing for the 2012 season starting at the AO.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Yes but do you seriously think Nadal is finished? 8-10 RGs is a given, and that shoots dead anyone's theory that Federer had greater longevity than Nadal.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Nadal is the only man in history to win slams on clay, grass, hard in the same calendar year (2010). He also won 3 consecutive masters shields that year...
And Djokovic's stats are inflated because 2 of the 4 slams are on hard. Can you imagine how many slams Nadal would have now if 2 of the 4 slams were on clay? :lol:
Don't forget the Career Grand Slam and duel Wimbledon titles :lol:
How about Djokovic, unwilling to complete matches he's about to lose :lol:
The irony...
^
All this and I only had to look at 2 pages of her post history :lol:
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
He will be lucky to win 1 more.
RAFA2005RG
Banned
Newcombe is right, Djokovic will struggle to keep his number one ranking. It could be Rafa and Federer at 1 and 2 by the US Open. I thought it would only be Rafa. But now Federer is racking up the points hardcore, so he must be in the picture. A Federer vs Rafa Wimbledon final would help this.
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celoft
Guest
Nice bump.
I'm bumping some of my favorite threads now.
I'm bumping some of my favorite threads now.
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
And that could mean we start getting Djokodal semifinals.
RAFA2005RG
Banned
Rafa will benefit from that. He's seemed nervous in the finals vs Djokovic. Semis has a less tense atmosphere. And I hear the US Open is going to have a break between semis and finals now as a regular schedule.
