Poly - Longevity, Comfort, Spin...in that order

athiker · Aug 29, 2012

I've tried to ween myself off poly b/c I string myself and its a bit of a pain vs multis and goes dead relatively fast so I have to do it more often. I just can't seem to give up the spin. Pretty much any poly will give me enough spin vs other string types so my priorities are:

Longevity (not wear but deadness), comfort and spin in that order.

Suggestions?

keithfival · Aug 31, 2012

BHBR 16 is doing that for me at the moment, crossed with syn gut.

athiker · Sep 3, 2012

Thank you for the suggestion. I guess too many threads asking for suggestions to get many responses.

tlm · Sep 3, 2012

athiker said:
I've tried to ween myself off poly b/c I string myself and its a bit of a pain vs multis and goes dead relatively fast so I have to do it more often. I just can't seem to give up the spin. Pretty much any poly will give me enough spin vs other string types so my priorities are:

Longevity (not wear but deadness), comfort and spin in that order.

Suggestions?

Buy by the spool and string more often, most poly users leave their strings in way to long. Its that or give up the spin it is up to you.

Chotobaka · Sep 3, 2012

You are not going to get the answer here, with all of the ill-informed, knee jerk opinions. You need to work this out for yourself to get a definitive answer. Since you string for yourself, this should be a simple (albeit time consuming) process. There is no instant Karma.

tlm · Sep 3, 2012

Chotobaka said:
You are not going to get the answer here, with all of the ill-informed, knee jerk opinions. You need to work this out for yourself to get a definitive answer. Since you string for yourself, this should be a simple (albeit time consuming) process. There is no instant Karma.

Really what is ill-informed about changing poly more often? This is what I call real life experience and common sense!

Chotobaka · Sep 3, 2012

tlm said:
Really what is ill-informed about changing poly more often? This is what I call real life experience and common sense!

Gee, I should apologize. Sorry I suggested the OP should trust his own personal experience, since he can string for himself and judge the results first hand, rather than rely on the infinite, collective second-hand wisdom that permeates this site. You must be the center of your own universe -- did I quote your post? Did I direct my post towards you? It was a general comment. Get over yourself, ****-ant.

bugeyed · Sep 4, 2012

Chotobaka said:
You are not going to get the answer here, with all of the ill-informed, knee jerk opinions. You need to work this out for yourself to get a definitive answer. Since you string for yourself, this should be a simple (albeit time consuming) process. There is no instant Karma.

Of course, the above response can't be excluded from it's description of the responses you will get here! I have only "well-informed" opinions, so I had better not speak up.

But I will contribute this. There are quite a few good strings available, so don't get caught up trying them all. Just pick a few that you can afford & try them & don't get hung up obsessing about the string making or breaking your game. Get on with playing tennis.

Cheers,
kev

NineMileSkid · Sep 4, 2012

tlm said:
Buy by the spool and string more often, most poly users leave their strings in way to long. Its that or give up the spin it is up to you.

I read somewhere that if you aren't breaking your polyesters within a week, you probably shouldn't be playing them, as most people are loathe to cut out strings every 10 days.

bugeyed · Sep 4, 2012

Chotobaka said:
Gee, I should apologize. Sorry I suggested the OP should trust his own personal experience, since he can string for himself and judge the results first hand, rather than rely on the infinite, collective second-hand wisdom that permeates this site. You must be the center of your own universe -- did I quote your post? Did I direct my post towards you? It was a general comment. Get over yourself, ****-ant.

Just more proof that there are a few people who are not here to help! Fortunately they are easily identified & it's probably best to ignore their advice.

Cheers,
kev

tlm · Sep 4, 2012

Chotobaka said:
Gee, I should apologize. Sorry I suggested the OP should trust his own personal experience, since he can string for himself and judge the results first hand, rather than rely on the infinite, collective second-hand wisdom that permeates this site. You must be the center of your own universe -- did I quote your post? Did I direct my post towards you? It was a general comment. Get over yourself, ****-ant.

Go screw yourself you little wimp, I know that the only time you can talk like this is from behind your keyboard because otherwise you would get your a&& kicked.

tlm · Sep 4, 2012

NineMileSkid said:
I read somewhere that if you aren't breaking your polyesters within a week, you probably shouldn't be playing them, as most people are loathe to cut out strings every 10 days.

I have found that poly gets a lot worse from steady hitting rather than just sitting in my bag. I know that it still loses tension from sitting but it does not lose the playability as much as from banging with it steady.

I never heard that if you don't break poly in a week that you should not be using them. All I do know is that they play great when fresh and after a few times out they go down quickly.

That must be why the pro players only use a string job for a little more than a half hour.

TennisCJC · Sep 6, 2012

Try these:

1. SigPro Tornado (textured) or Hyperion (smooth)
2. Tecnifibre Blackcode (textured) or Redcode (smooth)

I play SigPro - really seem like good quality and you can get the price in the $8-$10 range if you buy a reel and are careful about lengths.

I also hybrid which seems to add a bit to poly life span. Currently, syn gut or multi mains with poly crosses but have also used poly mains with syn gut or multi crosses.

realplayer · Sep 7, 2012

TennisCJC said:
Try these:

1. SigPro Tornado (textured) or Hyperion (smooth)
2. Tecnifibre Blackcode (textured) or Redcode (smooth)

I play SigPro - really seem like good quality and you can get the price in the $8-$10 range if you buy a reel and are careful about lengths.

I also hybrid which seems to add a bit to poly life span. Currently, syn gut or multi mains with poly crosses but have also used poly mains with syn gut or multi crosses.

Can you tell me what is the difference between hybrid poly in the mains and multi crosses and the other way around??
Does it also influence the lifespan of your strings and tension??

fortun8son · Sep 8, 2012

For tension maintenance, the Signum Pro line is hard to beat.
I'm not sure if OP is looking for other polys or an alternative.

realplayer; Poly in the mains will have less power and more longevity.
Multi in the mains will have more power, comfort, and spin for a shorter time.

My rule of thumb is: If you can break syngut in 4-6 weeks, you MAY be ready for poly.

...and you other guys need to either cool it or take it outside.

lynnbart · Sep 8, 2012

fortun8son,,,

What would be your timeline for switching from a hybrid to full poly?

My son was breaking syn gut every week in the 8th grade. He is now a junior and can go through a hybrid job in around 6 to 8 hours hours of playing. Is that ready for full poly ?

fortun8son · Sep 8, 2012

lynnbart said:
fortun8son,,,

What would be your timeline for switching from a hybrid to full poly?

My son was breaking syn gut every week in the 8th grade. He is now a junior and can go through a hybrid job in around 6 to 8 hours hours of playing. Is that ready for full poly ?

I don't think there really is a timeline.
Going to full poly from a hybrid is a change in performance (and maybe cost). A step sideways, not up.
Assuming it's still the mains that are breaking and that he's comfortable playing with the hybrid, just stick with what you've got.

lynnbart · Sep 8, 2012

He is comfortable with the Black Iontec Mains crossed with PSGO and has found his range with them.

It's the syn gut crosses that usually break first, but the mains are just about gone also. I'm just looking ahead to when the crossed start coming apart much faster...

Up&comer · Sep 8, 2012

^^ I would try crossing the poly with the thickest nylon you can find. It has proved as durable if not more durable than full poly for me.

lynnbart · Sep 8, 2012

Will do.

Thanks !

Up&comer · Sep 8, 2012

Let me know how it goes. If you can find a 15 or 15l, that would be best.

athiker · Sep 10, 2012

Well, this thread certainly came alive! Just placed an order for some Signum Pro Hyperion and Tecnifibre Pro Red Code. I'm going to try them straight up as well as crossed with some Multi-Feel. Thanks.

Kevo · Sep 10, 2012

I've pretty much settled on Kirschbaum Competition. I can play with it until it breaks, and it's reasonably comfortable if you don't string it up too tight. I like it around 50-52lbs. in my PSLs(18x20). I still try other things every now and then, but haven't found anything truly better all around. I have been using Spiky Shark quite a bit, but it really is not noticeably better than Competition and it's a bit more expensive.

Hi I'm Ray · Sep 16, 2012

athiker said:
I've tried to ween myself off poly b/c I string myself and its a bit of a pain vs multis and goes dead relatively fast so I have to do it more often. I just can't seem to give up the spin. Pretty much any poly will give me enough spin vs other string types so my priorities are:

Longevity (not wear but deadness), comfort and spin in that order.

Suggestions?

Unlike most poly users, I play about 40% of my shots relatively flat and the rest with mid to heavy spin to jam up my opponents - I usually don't break poly this way so I play them til they're dead & then cut them out.

Focus Hex was previously the longest lasting poly for me at 8-10hrs followed by Scorpion at 8-9hrs. But I've just gone 13-14hrs with WC Silver String - so far that is the longest of any poly I've tried. Usually most poly goes dead around 5-8hrs for me. It has tightened a lot, has lost power, and is about to get cut out, but its still playable and surprisingly still has good spin. Comfort is pretty decent for poly and spin is good for a non-shaped string. I mostly use poly/syn gut hybrids which IMO has no effect on how long it takes for a poly to go dead, but I suspect the WeissCannon strings might have felt too harsh (from tightening up) a bit sooner if it were in a full bed. Next up are my first Signum strings.

ductrung3993 · Sep 16, 2012

Signumpro Poly Plasma?

athiker · Oct 10, 2012

Ended up with a couple packages each of Tecnifibre Pro Red Code, Signum Pro Hyperion, Kirschbaum Competition, Tecnifibre Multi-Feel and Prince Premier Attack to mix and match. All in size 16. I need to get busy stringing as I'm down to one racquet with strings that aren't broken and the poly in it would probably be considered dead.

I know at least one half of the current string job is Scorpion and the other half might very well be Silver string! It was whatever 2 half sets I had left over from my previous string stock purchase. I don't have that info with me at the moment. Its been in the racquet a while now though and my serve seems to have lost some mphs the last couple matches.

Thanks for all the suggestions...the new stock should hold me for a good while.

fortun8son · Oct 10, 2012

Broken syngut cross is a good indicator that the main has been in there too long.
I usually do ItB as fullbed and use other polys for hybrid purposes.
The mains almost always break first for my poly/syn clients.

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