Why the hell is Nadal promoting gambling

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Danny_G13

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While he's maybe not Mr Squeaky Clean, he certainly commands respect in the tennis world as a man of honour, integrity, and grace. He's a warrior on the court and one of the greatest players ever.

Yet he cheapens himself to advertise gambling? It's not like he needs the cash.

Why, Rafa, why?
 
PrinceMoron

PrinceMoron

Legend
Strange choice for someone who plays with all that low risk big clearance over the net stuff.

On the other hand Goran would probably enjoy Russian roulette.
 
Bartelby

Bartelby

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... because we live in a world where its a perfectly ordinary activity promoted by the State for its revenue benefits.
 
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jmverdugo

jmverdugo

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... it is the same world where we blame other for our loses and rather not have control of our lives than be responsible for our actions, he is not pointing a gun at you to make you play, if you want to go ahead and lose your money is your problem not his...
 
batz

batz

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Danny_G13 said:
While he's maybe not Mr Squeaky Clean, he certainly commands respect in the tennis world as a man of honour, integrity, and grace. He's a warrior on the court and one of the greatest players ever.

Yet he cheapens himself to advertise gambling? It's not like he needs the cash.

Why, Rafa, why?
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Why not? Gambling is a perfectly acceptable recreational activity.
 
Sartorius

Sartorius

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PrinceMoron said:
Strange choice for someone who plays with all that low risk big clearance over the net stuff.
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This made me giggle.


On one hand it looks cheesy on Nadal for obvious reasons, but on the other hand it's not big deal at all. He very probably likes playing it and he can do what he wants. And as the poster above me says it's an acknowledged activity.

For what it's worth, I think the Shakira thing was much worse, but that's just me.
 
tennisMVP

tennisMVP

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Danny_G13 said:
While he's maybe not Mr Squeaky Clean, he certainly commands respect in the tennis world as a man of honour, integrity, and grace. He's a warrior on the court and one of the greatest players ever.

Yet he cheapens himself to advertise gambling? It's not like he needs the cash.

Why, Rafa, why?
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Do you really think being squeaky clean is a good thing? Respect, honor, integrity, grace? What are you a square?
 
Sartorius

Sartorius

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tennisMVP said:
Do you really think being squeaky clean is a good thing? Respect, honor, integrity, grace? What are you a girl/gay? (he changed it to "a square" :D)
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Yup, hear from NSK boys and you poor girls: disrespect, disgrace, dishonesty, and unkindness... It's the multi-account user's way. It's the NSK way.
 
DeShaun

DeShaun

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maybe he's moving away from tennis and testing his skills as a general pitchman? if tennis is wrecking his physique so that he will look forward to considerable discomfort in old age, he is wise to stop the hemorrhaging so to speak.
 
Bartelby

Bartelby

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Isn't part of gambling revenue siphoned off for socially beneficial activities in sporting and cultural areas in the uk. This is a kind of taxation which of course just doesn't end up in general revenue.




batz said:
Bartelby said:
... because we live in a world is a perfectly ordinary activity promoted by the State for its revenue benefits.[/QUOTE]

Not in the UK they don't - there is no tax on gambling.
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mistik

Hall of Fame
This deal is going to make his bank accounts larger and thats the most important thing for him.Good image only needed in the beginning of your career not in the end.No ones cares what kind of an image you have after the retirement and he is pretty much at the end of his career.Make most of it before it is too late.
 
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batz

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Bartelby said:
Isn't part of gambling revenue siphoned off for socially beneficial activities in sporting and cultural areas in the uk. This is a kind of taxation which of course just doesn't end up in general revenue.






Only the National Lottery (which funded much of Team GB and Paralypic GB success plus lots of charity work) - but there is no gambling tax anymore. It used to be 10% of your stake or winnings.
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Russeljones

Russeljones

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Danny_G13 said:
While he's maybe not Mr Squeaky Clean, he certainly commands respect in the tennis world as a man of honour, integrity, and grace. He's a warrior on the court and one of the greatest players ever.

Yet he cheapens himself to advertise gambling? It's not like he needs the cash.

Why, Rafa, why?
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Might as well ask ROnnie O'Sullivan that. It pays so they do it, it's not rocket science. The more money he has the more he can give away. I know that's a troubling thought for some, charity that is.
 
Bartelby

Bartelby

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Local governments take big cuts from racing, casino and poker machine revenue where I live, but they don't tax the gambler directly.
 
The_Order

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
The same reason Federer promoted women's hand bags

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batz

batz

G.O.A.T.
Bartelby said:
Local governments take big cuts from racing, casino and poker machine revenue where I live, but they don't tax the gambler directly.
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Local government doesn't tax anything other than property in the UK. That's the only tax revenue they can raise.

Scottish Parliament has a theoretical ability to raise/lower income tax by up to 3% but it has never used this power and is unlikely to use it in the future.
 
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Danny_G13

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Some amusing replies. Some reasonable ones. Gambling is an addiction which can ruin lives and he's a role model.

No better than him promoting cigarettes.

Just surprised he's happy to put his name to such an activity.
 
Clarky21

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Because he needs a yacht,and wanted a new Ferrari. Nadal has done just about anything for money for a while now. He doesn't care what he slaps his name to as long as he gets paid for it no matter how detrimental to his health or career it might be. Class is something truly foreign to him and always will be.
 
Bartelby

Bartelby

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I meant regional or state government here as they have sovereign taxing powers here.



batz said:
Local government doesn't tax anything other than property in the UK. That's the only tax revenue they can raise.

Scottish Parliament has a theoretical ability to raise/lower income tax by up to 3% but it has never used this power and is unlikely to use it in the future.
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tennisMVP

tennisMVP

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Clarky21 said:
Because he needs a yacht,and wanted a new Ferrari. Nadal has done just about anything for money for a while now. He doesn't care what he slaps his name to as long as he gets paid for it no matter how detrimental to his health or career it might be. Class is something truly foreign to him and always will be.
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"Class" is just a complimentary way of describing a square/sissy. You can't disguise it.
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Clarky21

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tennisMVP said:
"Class" is just a complimentary way of describing a square/sissy. You can't disguise it.
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Nope. You would never see Fed promoting something as low brow as gambling. Nadal,otoh,will next be endorsing Viagra,Valtrex,and Trojans,as those kinds of things fit with exactly who he is. Lol.
 
Sentinel

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Clarky21 said:
Because he needs a yacht,and wanted a new Ferrari. Nadal has done just about anything for money for a while now. He doesn't care what he slaps his name to as long as he gets paid for it no matter how detrimental to his health or career it might be. Class is something truly foreign to him and always will be.
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Poast of the week. You have me laughing so hard, Clarky. You need to go easy on the kid. What he does off court is his business, poor chap doesn't need to be audited and examined by the entire sports community.

I am sure Nads has enough to buy a fleet of yachts and Ferraris and anything else he could care for. I don't know what Poker is, but he must find it fun. Maybe there's a lot of "high society" there and he wants to get into it.
 
tennisMVP

tennisMVP

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Clarky21 said:
Nope. You would never see Fed promoting something as low brow as gambling. Nadal,otoh,will next be endorsing Viagra,Valtrex,and Trojans,as those kinds of things fit with exactly who he is. Lol.
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Are you saying protection is bad? Are you saying prescription drugs are bad? Do you even know the difference between good and bad?
 
Clarky21

Clarky21

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Sentinel said:
Poast of the week. You have me laughing so hard, Clarky. You need to go easy on the kid. What he does off court is his business, poor chap doesn't need to be audited and examined by the entire sports community.

I am sure Nads has enough to buy a fleet of yachts and Ferraris and anything else he could care for. I don't know what Poker is, but he must find it fun. Maybe there's a lot of "high society" there and he wants to get into it.
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Nadal does not even play poker. Pokerstar$ is trying to teach him how to play it because he has no idea how. Hopefully,he will fail and won't learn squat. It's an embarrassing endorsement,even though I know you will insist it isn't.
 
tennisMVP

tennisMVP

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Sentinel said:
Poast of the week. You have me laughing so hard, Clarky. You need to go easy on the kid. What he does off court is his business, poor chap doesn't need to be audited and examined by the entire sports community.

I am sure Nads has enough to buy a fleet of yachts and Ferraris and anything else he could care for. I don't know what Poker is, but he must find it fun. Maybe there's a lot of "high society" there and he wants to get into it.
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Clarky21 has described himself as a Nadal fan. Yet he is the biggest Nadal hater on the internet. I just put him on my ignore list a minute ago. He reminds me of the loon that stabbed Seles. Should be behind bars, as I know he's capable of doing the same harm to Nadal.
 
Russeljones

Russeljones

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Danny_G13 said:
Some amusing replies. Some reasonable ones. Gambling is an addiction which can ruin lives and he's a role model.

No better than him promoting cigarettes.

Just surprised he's happy to put his name to such an activity.
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Gambling is a way to pass time and entertain one self. If you read books you will find people can be addicted to practically everything.

Not surprised this is being used to bash Nadal though.
 
Clarky21

Clarky21

Banned
tennisMVP said:
Are you saying protection is bad? Are you saying prescription drugs are bad? Do you even know the difference between good and bad?
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You don't get it. I meant that he will slap his name to anything if it pays him enough. It does't matter what light it puts him in,or how embarrassing it might be.

For example: Endorsing Viagra is admitting you can't get it up,and is therefore embarrassing. Endorsing Valtrex is admitting you have probably gotten around quite a bit,and have an incurable,highly contagious std and is therefore embarrassing. Trojans wouldn't be as bad,but still low brow and embarrassing. Do you get what I'm saying now or do you need a visual aid?

And does Nadal really have to slap his name to anything that comes along? Is he broke? Does he have no other options? The answer to all of those questions is no,so why does he do it?
 
Clarky21

Clarky21

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tennisMVP said:
Clarky21 has described himself as a Nadal fan. Yet he is the biggest Nadal hater on the internet. I just put him on my ignore list a minute ago. He reminds me of the loon that stabbed Seles. Should be behind bars, as I know he's capable of doing the same harm to Nadal.
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I am not a he,Bullzilla,and you crossed the line with your silly Seles attacker comparisons. Hopefully,this latest incarnation gets banned just like your other 500 incarnations.
 
Tennis_Maestro

Tennis_Maestro

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lol

OP, do you only associate gambling with bankruptcy and torn families? Nadal's mind is quite evidently much more expansive than yours.
 
Sentinel

Sentinel

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Clarky21 said:
You don't get it. I meant that he will slap his name to anything if it pays him enough. It does't matter what light it puts him in,or how embarrassing it might be.

For example: Endorsing Viagra is admitting you can't get it up,and is therefore embarrassing. Endorsing Valtrex is admitting you have probably gotten around quite a bit,and have an incurable,highly contagious std and is therefore embarrassing. Trojans wouldn't be as bad,but still low brow and embarrassing. Do you get what I'm saying now or do you need a visual aid?

And does Nadal really have to slap his name to anything that comes along? Is he broke? Does he have no other options? The answer to all of those questions is no,so why does he do it?
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Maybe Rafa needs a wife like Mirka who can tell him what to do. (Although, there will be the odd case when she gets him to wear some feminine handbag or something silly, for which I am sure you will barbecue him :) ).
 
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Danny_G13

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Russeljones said:
Gambling is a way to pass time and entertain one self. If you read books you will find people can be addicted to practically everything.

Not surprised this is being used to bash Nadal though.
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And yet I like him. It's just a valid criticism. He's not impeachable.
 
Tennis_Maestro

Tennis_Maestro

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Danny_G13 said:
Some amusing replies. Some reasonable ones. Gambling is an addiction which can ruin lives and he's a role model.

No better than him promoting cigarettes.

Just surprised he's happy to put his name to such an activity.
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They're amusing because they aren't narrow minded and instead are open to the possibility that "light gambling" can be actually a very fun and mentally stimulating exercise.

You're way too caught up in this World of let's not break any rules and be Mr Perfect. Although it seems the case, Nadal isn't as boring as you initially thought.
 
Tennis_Maestro

Tennis_Maestro

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Danny_G13 said:
And yet I like him. It's just a valid criticism. He's not impeachable.
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No. Everything and anything can be addictive. Let's criticise Djokovic for promoting cap wearing. As after-all obsessive cap wearing can have a detrimental affect on one's scalp and in the long term cause hair loss.
 
tennisMVP

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Danny_G13 said:
And yet I like him. It's just a valid criticism. He's not impeachable.
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It's not even a criticism. The most prolific gambler in sport is Michael Jordan. He spends most nights gambling his brains out. Yet nobody minds at all. It only speaks to his reputation as a legendary competitor. Who else competes as hard as Jordan? Rafael Nadal.
 
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Danny_G13

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Tennis_Maestro said:
They're amusing because they aren't narrow minded and instead are open to the possibility that "light gambling" can be actually a very fun and mentally stimulating exercise.

You're way too caught up in this World of let's not break any rules and be Mr Perfect. Although it seems the case, Nadal isn't as boring as you initially thought.
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Mr Perfect? I just don't like losing my money. That's not perfection, it's common sense.
 
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Danny_G13

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tennisMVP said:
It's not even a criticism. The most prolific gambler in sport is Michael Jordan. He spends most nights gambling his brains out. Yet nobody minds at all. It only speaks to his reputation as a legendary competitor. Who else competes as hard as Jordan? Rafael Nadal.
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Well if Jordan starts promoting it as healthy activity then he's in the same boat as Nadal.
 
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Danny_G13

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Tennis_Maestro said:
No. Everything and anything can be addictive. Let's criticise Djokovic for promoting cap wearing. As after-all obsessive cap wearing can have a detrimental affect on one's scalp and in the long term cause hair loss.
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Addiction is a problem when it is destructive. Your reply is completely ridiculous.

I think a lot of people on this forum are defending this because they like gambling. If they don't, and are defending it regardless, my best guess is they like Nadal and can't stomach the idea of criticism.
 
Tennis_Maestro

Tennis_Maestro

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Danny_G13 said:
Mr Perfect? I just don't like losing my money. That's not perfection, it's common sense.
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...but you see, that's the problem, you are only thinking about yourself, how you would feel. Has it ever occurred to you that may be some people are ready to lose a small amount in the aid of fun? To you, going to the cinema and watching a movie is fun and you are paying for it. To them, going to a poker tournament and playing a card game with the possibility to win back their money + more is fun and they are paying for that.
 
Tennis_Maestro

Tennis_Maestro

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Danny_G13 said:
Addiction is a problem when it is destructive. Your reply is completely ridiculous.

I think a lot of people on this forum are defending this because they like gambling. If they don't, and are defending it regardless, my best guess is they like Nadal and can't stomach the idea of criticism.
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Losing hair is not destructive? Men lose confidence, self esteem and then find it hard approaching women. Sorry, this destructive stuff is completely subjective and you are suggesting all people who gamble lack an ability to do so moderately. You are also suggesting all people who gamble, gamble to make money, not true. If you are not gambling to make money, how could it ever lead to destructiveness?

Stop thinking, clearly not your forte. People are defending it because they are open minded and they can relate to people who like to live a little.
 
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mistik

Hall of Fame
To promote gambling is low class.You can gamble in your life.My family does.My mum and dad even go to vacations for gambling since it forbidden in my country the last 10 years.İs gambling can be fun ? Believe me No,in the long run.
There are some great card games like Brigade.Poker isnt one of them.You need some skills in poker but mostly it is iuck.The funny thing that poker community trying to promote it like a mind sport like Brigade.
 
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smash hit

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Tennis_Maestro said:
No. Everything and anything can be addictive. Let's criticise Djokovic for promoting cap wearing. As after-all obsessive cap wearing can have a detrimental affect on one's scalp and in the long term cause hair loss.
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Or Federer for promoting chocolate amidst an epidemic of obesity.
 
Clarky21

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Tennis_Maestro said:
Losing hair is not destructive? Men lose confidence, self esteem and then find it hard approaching women. Sorry, this destructive stuff is completely subjective and you are suggesting all people who gamble lack an ability to do so moderately. You are also suggesting all people who gamble, gamble to make money, not true. If you are not gambling to make money, how could it ever lead to destructiveness?

Stop thinking, clearly not your forte. People are defending it because they are open minded and they can relate to people who like to live a little.
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I cannot believe you are comparing going bald to the devastation that gambling addiction can cause. Does losing one's hair cause them to lose their house? Their job? Their family? Their car? Does losing hair cause someone to steal,lie,and cheat to get their gambling fix? They are at total opposite ends of the destruction spectrum,and comparing the two is just plain ridiculous.
 
batz

batz

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Danny_G13 said:
Some amusing replies. Some reasonable ones. Gambling is an addiction which can ruin lives and he's a role model.

No better than him promoting cigarettes.

Just surprised he's happy to put his name to such an activity.
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No - gambling can lead to addiction that can ruin lives. It can also bring pleasure to millions and cause no harm whatsoever. Your analogy with smoking is just silly - smoking is always harmful, gambling is not.
 
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