Give me Fedal any day!!
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lendledbergfan
Rookie
Oh God yes!
Cosmic_Colin
Professional
Yeah, we either need Fed and Nadal to have a second wind, or some new players to make a breakthrough in the next year.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
You sound surprised! Why???
federer_fan90
New User
I can't believe how much the media hype up Djokovic-Murray as this great rivalry. Their matches are usually boring as anything, with little or no variety whatsoever. Their game styles are too similar to expect anything else I suppose.
My personal interest in watching tennis will diminish greatly when the likes of Fed/Tsonga retire. I hope the likes of Dimitrov step up and become a real threat at the top of the game.
My personal interest in watching tennis will diminish greatly when the likes of Fed/Tsonga retire. I hope the likes of Dimitrov step up and become a real threat at the top of the game.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
I hope people realize how good Federer and Nadal are for the game.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
RajFederer
Semi-Pro
Federer n nadal ain't fighting any more.. Federer would retire.. Don't know how nadal holds after an injury..
I'm sure another 10 years.. We gotta deal with these pushers
I'm sure another 10 years.. We gotta deal with these pushers
djokovic2008
Hall of Fame
Djoker and Murray have taken the sport the a higher level never seen before.
yes ultimate levels of pushing ,they simply do not match up well lot of boring 20+ rallies stan/djok and fed/tsonga were much better
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Fixed, 10 snoozes!
or faster courts
Cosmic_Colin
Professional
How is rally rally rally UFE a higher level?
Federer (and to a lesser extent Nadal) had natural talent. Djokovic, with his endurance-based game will never be able to produce the same level of tennis. Better athleticism, but not Tennis.
Cosmic_Colin
Professional
Yeah, that would do nicely.
RajFederer
Semi-Pro
Djokovic better athlete .. Federer GOAT .. Nadal great player ... Murray pusher
End of discussion..
End of discussion..
zagor
Bionic Poster
Novak is a terrific ballstriker, endurance alone would get him nowhere.
Novak-Murray just don't match-up all that well.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
I don't know what people are complaining about. Nadal at his best did the same thing Djokovic and Murray did. Did people forget that Nadal involved Djokovic in the biggest slugfest in the history of mankind last year? Why criticize Djokovic and Murray hitting back and forth, when Nadal fits beautifully in that group.
Fedal matches were not consistent when it came to quality either. A lot of them were bovine excrement... Federer shanking everything, Nadal hitting forehands to Federer's backhand over and over ...
Beryl
Hall of Fame
Huh? Djokovic relies less on his athleticism than Nadal does. Novak's ground-strokes off both wings are catalysts for superb tennis when he is playing well.
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
Exactly this. You can also mention the classic Federer choke after going up a set.
Telepatic
Legend
I don't want to sound like ******** or Fed hater but if in these old Fed days even Muzza beats him in slam, imagine what Rafito would be doing.
Fedal matches were always in favor of Nadal, even more so with each passing day due to Fed's age.
What tennis really needs are new faces.
Fedal matches were always in favor of Nadal, even more so with each passing day due to Fed's age.
What tennis really needs are new faces.
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
All the young guys suck.....not gonna happen for a long time. The only hope is for 25+ players other than Fedalovicray to be in a slam final.
President
Legend
It's hard to put into words but Nadal just has a charisma that these two do not even come close to matching. That plus he has a pretty unique style of play that stands out, Djokovic and Murray are fairly generic players. His defensive style is a lot more entertaining than these two . And Federer is obviously a much better player to watch than Murrokovic.
Djokodal Fan
Hall of Fame
Old man cannot play 2 back t back 5 setters....what sore losers Fed fans are.
Why do you want Fedal when you know the result.
Schooling after schooling in every grandslam isn't anything interesting. You know the result before the ball is served...Fedal...LOL :lol:
Why do you want Fedal when you know the result.
Schooling after schooling in every grandslam isn't anything interesting. You know the result before the ball is served...Fedal...LOL :lol:
FedererDropShot
Hall of Fame
Your boy's time will come soon too.
In fact, Fedal isn't even exactly dead despite 'Fed' being 31.5 years old.
Nadal's tennis is boring, I'd rather watch Djokovic. Nadal needs an agressive opponent, so that he can use his passing shots.
Or else he'll use his forehand to the opponent's backhand, until he opponent makes an unforced error.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
I disagree. Djokovic has a very signature style. He has the huge windup western forehand, the massive 2 handed backhand with extreme torso rotation, and nobody else moves like him or incorporates flexibility in their game like Djokovic does.
Nadal has been out for a while and Djokovic has been number 1 for like 2 years now, so I expect people to be sympathetic towards Nadal, but I still remember in 2011 when people on this forum thought Djokovic was a breath of fresh air and Nadal was a plague upon tennis.
Djokodal Fan
Hall of Fame
This . Period.
I still rate US open 2001 semis way way better than any match! It was a blockbuster written all over! offensive tennis at its best!!
Cosmic_Colin
Professional
Nadal had a more unique style, with his heavy topspin. He's got good volleys too, if he gets forced to come forward!
To be honest I like Nadal and Djokovic about the same, but watching Djokovic playing someone who is basically a lesser version of himself has just pissed me off.
Djokodal Fan
Hall of Fame
what can Djoker do. IF only Federer not managed to choke!
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic came to net 41 times today and walked away the winner 35 times! Even when he plays Nadal, Djokovic almost always approaches the net more frequently and with more success.
President
Legend
I would not call either Djokovic's forehand or backhand "massive" by any means, they are not particularly pacey or skinny compared to other top 10 players, actually he is probably on the less powerful side. Not that they aren't great shots.. He moves great on hard court and is very flexible but its not the same as watching Federer play a beautiful classic style (mixed modern technique) or Nadal's relentless energy and great shotmaking.
And you can't only use Nadal being out and people being tired of Djoker as an explanation, even in 2008/2009 when Nadal had a similar number of slams to Djokovic now he still had way more fans than Djoker does now. Overall to MOST tennis fans I think Nadal is a more charismatic, exciting, and likable player than Djokovic.
OverratedIvanovic
Semi-Pro
Yes Fedal matches are not consistent quality wise but every once in a while they will produce some fireworks which will make the crowd go crazy. Heck leave Fedal matches, I would have preferred Djokovic triple breadsticking Nadal or Federer today than this Djokoray yawnfest which I had to endure today. These 2 keep hitting straight back and forth at each other in the middle of the court :-?
These 2 bring the worst out of each other. The only good matches I can remember between these 2 is Rome 2011, Shanghai 2012 and some parts of AO 2012 and they have played like 18 times now? Compare that to the number of classics either of Fedal, Djokodal and Federer-Djokovic have produced.
These 2 bring the worst out of each other. The only good matches I can remember between these 2 is Rome 2011, Shanghai 2012 and some parts of AO 2012 and they have played like 18 times now? Compare that to the number of classics either of Fedal, Djokodal and Federer-Djokovic have produced.
martini1
Hall of Fame
Even Djoker Rafa on hc is better than this game. Djoker was asleep until the last 2 games of the 2nd set. That was like 1.5 hrs??
And the poor bp conversion makes the match kind of dull...
I agree that their styles are similar and not as interesting as Fed vs Nadal but they're also both in great shape. Their speed, fitness, and reach means that shots that might have been winners against other players means the ball's coming back again.
For example, both had great DTL shots that would have been winners or extreme pressure shots against most players but in light of their fitness/speed/reach they were able to return the shots with reasonable pace, depth, and accuracy to keep the point competitive. It's that old saying, "What do you have to do to hit a winner against these guys?"
A key problem is the TV presentation. On TV it looks like boring, safe, slow paced, ping pong. In person it's extremely fast and fierce.
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
The Fedal rivalry has much more history and consists of two players who are more charismatic and whose opposing styles create a much more interesting matchup.
Djokovic and Murray have about the same style and they don't exhale the same passion as drips off from Nadal and Federer.
Djokovic and Murray have about the same style and they don't exhale the same passion as drips off from Nadal and Federer.
natalia
Hall of Fame
The only people who miss Fedal matches at slams are Nadal fans. The script never changes with how that one ends, does it ?
On the other hand, Djokodal or Fedjoker matches are more exciting because there is an element of unpredictability and anyone can win on a given day.
Perfectly true.
justinw501
New User
I would say this is it. When watching live its great, on the TV not so much.
Clarky21
Banned
What a total load of crap.
Clarky21
Banned
Yeah if you like watching a stick insect flail about for 5+ hours. Lance is not unique and is an academy bot.
