Cesc Fabregas
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Federer with Nadal 2nd. Sampras, Agassi, Bruguera, Courier, Gonzalez, Blake, Delpo, Soderling, Verdasco having great forehands as well.
The Single Most Destructive Forehand In Tennis In The Last 20 Years
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Death Master
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TheCanadian
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Close call between Lendl and Federer.
Death Master
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lendl lost 11 slam finals. he did not change the course of history with his forehand.
Polaris
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+1. I've gone to Odds and Ends, and have stopped regular posting. Out here, it is either TDK's stream-of-consciousness dreck, or Death Master's dire need for attention, or Thundervolley's hate-filled, rationality-challenged vitriol.
Better to stay away and use time wisely than to participate in this dumb parade.
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Chico
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It has been more that 20 years since Lendl's time. Time flies, sadly.
sunof tennis
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I agree. On clay, I would take Nadal's; on any other surface, I would take prime Fed. Not only great insid-out forehand, but love his inside-in forehand andhis variety.
Although for pure fury, got to go with Gonzo
Too bad Federer couldn't always keep his level up this high on clay, or it would be an easy decision to go with his forehand on that surface as well:
Nadal vs Federer - Hamburg (2007)
Insane winners from anywhere on the court those last two sets. Nadal was playing very well but was still helpless.
10is
Professional
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBYFnwUJP_8
I just love this little clip. BTW - Blake had quite a devestating forehand in his prime as well - check out the one he hits at 0:55s.
EDIT:
Here's a clip dedicated to the ferocity of Blake's forehand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5hwE3oUU7I
I just love this little clip. BTW - Blake had quite a devestating forehand in his prime as well - check out the one he hits at 0:55s.
EDIT:
Here's a clip dedicated to the ferocity of Blake's forehand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5hwE3oUU7I
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"Federer, today, unfortunately came out with no balls... you don't find too many champions in any sport in the world without heart or balls. He might have them, but against Nadal they shrink to a very small size and it's not once, it's every time."
Death Master
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nadal can hit 3-4 different forehands.
he can craft points with his forehand.
he can also produce insane angles with his forehand.
he can craft points with his forehand.
he can also produce insane angles with his forehand.
ForLoveOfTheGame
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I would probably say Federer, up until very recently, the power, consistency and angles from everywhere was a sight to behold. Other notable forehands, Nadal for that whippy spin, punishing opponent's backhands. Would have to also argue Gonzo and Soderling for the power and consistency.
bahamasboy32
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Between Nadal and Federer Nadal's forehand is way better on clay, a bit better on grass (when both are their best), and about equal on hard courts (when both are their best) so I would go with Nadal overall. However there are others it is hard to know how would compare if they played today like Lendl, Sampras, Laver, so it still hard to say whose is the best or even most destructive ever.
henryshli
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It is so sad. The OP started this thread hoping people will say you know who but hardly anyone has....and those who has he hung onto their words like a puppy sucking on a teat
TahoeTennis
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As far as all out destruction, Fed easy. And I'm a Nadal fan.
1. Fed
2. Agassi
3. Blake
4. Nadal
5. Roddick
1. Fed
2. Agassi
3. Blake
4. Nadal
5. Roddick
Death Master
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blake and Roddick?
you have got to be kidding me.
you have got to be kidding me.
Graf1stClass
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...it's pretty obvious who I'd pick. I should just talk trash about this oblivious thread, for even asking such a bunk question insults Steffi.
Advantage Roddick
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Sampras of course. Flat consistent rocket from anywhere on the court
Graf1stClass
Professional
...ugh...:-x
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Nadal has the GOAThand©.
Graf1stClass
Professional
nadal wasn't named after his forehand.
Death Master
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they don't even call his forehand a forehand anymore:
the world calls it "The Fearhand".
I will have to come up with a nickname for his forehand too.
or I can just call it the "forehand of death".
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
Well, most top pros (who aren't one-dimensional ball bashing machines) can.
llodra_fan
Professional
thanks for the videos. WTF was that last shot in the first video ? :O
Death Master
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Death Master
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nadal`s forehand is not a forehand anymore.
the world calls it "the FEARhand".
the world calls it "the FEARhand".
You aren't taking into account the myriad of factors that influence this.
Nadal sure has the best topspin forehand of all time, but Federer's is more versatile across all surfaces, and all speeds.
I say that because Fed can take the ball VERY early, redirect pace much better than Nadal can, flatten it out arguably better, forehand volley slightly better, on the run forehand slice better, and still get within 80% of Nadal's topspin when he wants to loop it.
I am by no means demeaning Nadal's, quite the opposite. I think these two are above everyone else by a considerable margin.
As good as Nadal's forehand has been, he moves well and has great drive. I think if Federer's forehand was a little lower, he wouldn't have been even close to the player he was. His style of play that made him who he is, is his versatility. Nadal could still grind out victories with a slightly less lethal forehand.
It is even further proven by Federer's backhand, which is his weakness; Nadal's is much stronger.
Nadal sure has the best topspin forehand of all time, but Federer's is more versatile across all surfaces, and all speeds.
I say that because Fed can take the ball VERY early, redirect pace much better than Nadal can, flatten it out arguably better, forehand volley slightly better, on the run forehand slice better, and still get within 80% of Nadal's topspin when he wants to loop it.
I am by no means demeaning Nadal's, quite the opposite. I think these two are above everyone else by a considerable margin.
As good as Nadal's forehand has been, he moves well and has great drive. I think if Federer's forehand was a little lower, he wouldn't have been even close to the player he was. His style of play that made him who he is, is his versatility. Nadal could still grind out victories with a slightly less lethal forehand.
It is even further proven by Federer's backhand, which is his weakness; Nadal's is much stronger.
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Every player's forehand is a topspin forehand.
Top 3 in no particular order....
Sampras's running cross court forehand was the best ever seen. The way he would bait Agassi and others to try to go down the line was a thing of beauty to watch. He would have loved to play Djoker because Djokers proclivity to hit the BH DTL.
Federer's forehand after serve was the best ever seen. His putaways after an opponents service return is unequaled.
Nadal's heavy topspin was the best heavy topspin forehand ever seen. The high kicker to the righties BH changed the direction of tennis. However, if he was a righty it would not have been near as effective.
All three are lethal in their own way.
Sampras's running cross court forehand was the best ever seen. The way he would bait Agassi and others to try to go down the line was a thing of beauty to watch. He would have loved to play Djoker because Djokers proclivity to hit the BH DTL.
Federer's forehand after serve was the best ever seen. His putaways after an opponents service return is unequaled.
Nadal's heavy topspin was the best heavy topspin forehand ever seen. The high kicker to the righties BH changed the direction of tennis. However, if he was a righty it would not have been near as effective.
All three are lethal in their own way.
Players can and do hit forehands with slice (slice forehand on the run (as you said), drop shots, deep passing shot slice a la Fed), but their forehand at least 99% of the time is a topspin forehand.
10is
Professional
With the "VERY" qualifier, if this were the Federer of 2003-2007 you were alluding to I would agree.
Wilander Fan
Hall of Fame
Are you kidding? Modern power tennis is based on Lendl's game. I am not a huge Lendl fan but he won 11 slams in a highly diverse specialized era. His only weakness was he could not develop a decent S&V game which was a must back then to win Wimbledon. I have little doubt he could have won 15 or more with homogenous slow gritty courts like today.
His FH was the original killer forehand.
G
Golden
Guest
I think he only won 8 majors. He made at least 1 final for 11 consecutive years... that might be what you're thinking of.
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
No, I was quoting the poster before. I'm intrigued about the slice FH on the run because it's not a shot I'm familiar with. I've seen players hit slice FHs while sliding, but not on the run (Sampras, Fed and Nadal tend to hit a reverse/buggy whip FH on the run). Maybe I haven't been paying much attention?
He won 8 majors and made the US Open Final 8 straight years.
He lost 11 grand slam finals. (Borg, McEnroe, Connors 2x, Wilander 3x, Cash, Becker 3x)
http://youtu.be/StUvrjIfGd8
The shot roger hits here on the run is what I meant. The point also demonstrates a great redirect down the line, and the best inside out fh ever.
That point also epitomizes the best tennis we have ever seen from two people IMO.
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Rock Strongo
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NEW_BORN
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Death Master
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Show me the proof
you look for it.
I am a busy man.
also isn't the proof pretty much too damned evident?
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Death Master
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In other words, there's no proof
in other words, you are just too damn lazy.
find the stuff and then post it here.
that is your assignment for the night.
cant you see that I am busy doing stuff?
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