Federer vs Del Potro WTF 2013 RR

What's your prediction?


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tennisenthusiast

Hall of Fame
This is a very interesting match. I'll open the floor for discussions!

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It's surely not very fair to either of them that they will have to win three important matches in three days to win the tournament. Group B is majorly disadvantaged by the scheduling. Why can't have a day off in between the end of group matches and the semi-finals? They're already finishing on Monday. Why not finish on Tuesday instead?
 

Warmaster

Hall of Fame
They'll have to play eachother, Nadal and Djokovic in 3 days to win the tournament. Good luck with that.
 

edberg volleys

Hall of Fame
Fed in 2, just because of that lost match today. He is big man after all and despite Fed's erratic play during this year, he is fresh for the 'challenge'. Might be wrong but lets see.
 

Fedinkum

Legend
If Fed beats Delpo in 2, and Gasquet beats Djoke miraculously, Fed actually grabs the top spot in this group...my very wishful thinking...
 
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Topslice

Guest
Surely a 3 setter. I want to see Nadal vs Delpo so hoping he can get over his loss to Nole and finish off grandfather.
 

raphMODE

Professional
If Fed beats Delpo in 2, and Gasquet beats Djoke miraculously, Fed actually grabs the top spot in this group...my very wishful thinking...

I may be wrong - sorry if it's the case - but I think that Fed would also take the top spot by beating delPo in 3 :

Currently, in the SET win/loss, Federer has 3-2. Djoko has 4-2.
- If Fed win in 2, and Gasquet win in 2 : it will make 5-2 for Fed, 4-4 for Djoko.
- If Fed win in 2, and Gasquet win in 3 : it will make 5-2 for Fed, 5-4 for Djoko.
- If Fed win in 3, and Gasquet win in 2 : it will make 5-3 for Fed, 4-4 for Djoko.
- If Fed win in 3, and Gasquet win in 3 : it will make 5-3 for Fed, 5-4 for Djoko.
In All situation, if Fed and Gasquet win, Fed take the top spot.

Anyway, it won't happens as delPo and Djoko will win...
 
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WhiskeyEE

G.O.A.T.
actually the tie breaker if 2 players are tied is determined by the h2h. In this case, it's 1-0 for Djokovic regardless of whether Fed or Del Potro wins. He has already clinched top spot.

Sets/games won only matters if 3 players are tied.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
This is so complicated, every year it gives me a headache. I just hope the organizers know what they're doing because this stupid system is completely incomprehensible for the layperson.
 

raphMODE

Professional
By the way, Nadal still can finish at spot 2 if berdych win in 2 sets against him, right ?
A Nadal/Djoko semi could happen then !
 

WhiskeyEE

G.O.A.T.
Group B is more complicated.

If Berdych beats Nadal (2 or 3 sets) and Wawrinka loses, the rankings are 1. Berdych 2. Nadal

If Berdych beats Nadal in 2 sets and Wawrinka wins, the rankings are 1. Berdych and 2. Nadal

If Berdych beats Nadal in 3 sets and Wawrinka wins, the rankings are 1. Nadal and 2. Berdych

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If Berdych loses and Wawrinka wins, the rankings are 1. Nadal and 2. Wawrinka

If Berdych loses and Wawrinka loses, the rankings are 1. Nadal and 2. Berdych
 
Group B is more complicated.

If Berdych beats Nadal (2 or 3 sets) and Wawrinka loses, the rankings are 1. Berdych 2. Nadal

If Berdych beats Nadal in 2 sets and Wawrinka wins, the rankings are 1. Berdych and 2. Nadal

If Berdych beats Nadal in 3 sets and Wawrinka wins, the rankings are 1. Nadal and 2. Berdych

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If Berdych loses and Wawrinka wins, the rankings are 1. Nadal and 2. Wawrinka

If Berdych loses and Wawrinka loses, the rankings are 1. Nadal and 2. Berdych

It isn't that complicated. Only the two scenarios that Berdych loses are viable. Does anyone seriously think Berdych is going to beat Nadal ever again anywhere.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Fed can beat Delpo. He's just done it in Paris and imo he looks a bit better than Delpo again this week.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
This is so complicated, every year it gives me a headache. I just hope the organizers know what they're doing because this stupid system is completely incomprehensible for the layperson.

Yea it's very complicated - the winner of the Federer-Del Potro match goes through and the loser doesn't.

I don't even
 

coloskier

Legend
Delpo is coming off a tough match against Djoker while Fed is coming off an easy 2 set win against Gasquet. Fed will have more in the tank, and Delpo looks like his tank is almost empty. Fed in straights, unless Delpo comes out in early God Mode.
 

Chico

Banned
actually the tie breaker if 2 players are tied is determined by the h2h. In this case, it's 1-0 for Djokovic regardless of whether Fed or Del Potro wins. He has already clinched top spot.

Sets/games won only matters if 3 players are tied.

This Novak clinched the top spot in the group already. He don't have to win a single point vs Gasquet.
 

FreeBird

Legend
Wrist knew that he did not need to put effort against ankle since Back can easily be defeated nowadays. Wrist in 2. He is rather happy to play knee in semis.
 
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014

Guest
It's surely not very fair to either of them that they will have to win three important matches in three days to win the tournament. Group B is majorly disadvantaged by the scheduling. Why can't have a day off in between the end of group matches and the semi-finals? They're already finishing on Monday. Why not finish on Tuesday instead?

That is why this year is Rafa's year.
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
So the SFs will be:
Ankle - Brain
Knee - Wrist

I am afraid the Back will break the Wrist bad today. Irrespective of whether it is the Back or Wrist facing it tomorrow, the Knee will pulverize it.

Funnier still will be if the Brain somehow takes out the Ankle in the other semi before undergoing another lobotomy at the hands of the Knee in the final.
 
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Why is this match at 2 ?, the gasquet djokovic match is meaningless , I have a gaelic football match at 3 so I am going to miss it.Why not have it on primetime tv at 8?
 

underground

G.O.A.T.
Fed CANNOT top Group B after Djokovic beat Delpo.

If Djokovic defeats Gasquet, he goes 3-0 and qualifies 1st.

If Djokovic loses to Gasquet, both him and Federer will end up 2-1. When there are two player ties, the head-to-head is used to determine 1st and 2nd places. (Note head-to-head means whoever won their RR match earlier on, NOT 16-15 to Federer). So Djokovic will still end up 1st since he beat Federer.
 

firepanda

Professional
SFs:

Waka vs Djok
Nadal vs Potro/Federer

Those are very balanced semifinals. Wawrinka is the worst guy to face Djokovic from group A (aside from Nadal) and could be some trouble. Nadal will struggle with Del Potro, as we saw in Shanghai. I Federer wins, this will very much be Fed's Last Stand so he won't be a pushover.
 

firepanda

Professional
And I really hope Federer wins. Del Potro is one of the players I cannot tolerate whereas Federer is the GOAT and deserves a spot. Also, I want to see a Djokodal final, since these two have been by far the best players of the year and I think Nadal will prefer to face Federer.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
I really don't care what happens in the semis as long as we get the Djokodal showdown in the end. More than 48 hours to wait seems like an eternity, I'm so pumped about it
 
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