Giorgi Questioned On Alleged Shady Business Dealings

ttbrowne

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Seems to me the reporter gave her all the room to honestly give her take on the situation but she just wanted to talk about "tennis". I agree with the reporter. Money IS part of the game and if there is a major story out thee about Daddy & her ripping off investors, it's news. Tennis news.
The Moderator was way out of line trying to cover for her. Let her answer. She is an adult.
http://tennis.si.com/2014/03/11/camila-giorgi-indian-wells/
 
tacou

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I think the question was definitely acceptable, though the questioner did seem to take some pleasure in it

The Giorgigs, based off of that article, clearly have something going on. But there are a lot of holes still...for instance, if you are one of the ricer benefactors, can't you just look up Camila's schedule and show up (with law enforcement?) to demand payment? Hard to sympathize with people who give away tens of thousands of dollars without contracts
 
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tenniscasey

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tacou said:
I think the question was definitely acceptable, though the questioner did seem to take some

The Giorgigs, based off of that article, clearly have something going on. But there are a lot of holes still...for instance, if you are one of the ricer benefactors, can't you just look up Camila's schedule and show up (with law enforcement?) to demand payment? Hard to sympathize with people who give away tens of thousands of dollars without contracts
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Camila and her dad refused to discuss these issues for the initial SI article, then Camila's dad responded to the article by saying there's no proof and this circus is being driven by the vendetta of a 40-something hat salesman who lives with his parents. Boom roasted.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/truth-not-always-black-and-white-20140116-30xqp.html
 
heninfan99

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Most 22 yr olds don't know much about money or handling it and much of the debt was accumulated when she was younger.

I've read the story and I think most of the blame falls on the Dad however she did co-sign on some of the loans and she has to pay that back as she makes some bigger wins.

It's the right thing to do and congrats to the reporter with some guts.
 
jones101

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I didn't realise debt issues are necessary questions in a post match press conference, which should be about the match/event only.

I thought the reporter was inappropriate and pushy.

Regardless of the situation she should not have to talk about it to press, if anything its a legal matter, if there are contracts, and she does owe.

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tacou

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tenniscasey said:
Camila and her dad refused to discuss these issues for the initial SI article, then Camila's dad responded to the article by saying there's no proof and this circus is being driven by the vendetta of a 40-something hat salesman who lives with his parents. Boom roasted.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/truth-not-always-black-and-white-20140116-30xqp.html
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Me, roasted? How so; maybe you misunderstood me....certainly not defending the Giorgis, nor do I believe these "private backers" are telling the whole story. It's certainly interesting I just don't know what to make of it all yet.
 
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tenniscasey

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tacou said:
Me, roasted? How so; maybe you misunderstood me....certainly not defending the Giorgis, nor do I believe these "private backers" are telling the whole story. It's certainly interesting I just don't know what to make of it all yet.
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Sorry man, that wasn't aimed at you. It was aimed at the mysterious person Sergio Giorgi fingered as the brains behind this diabolical plan to bring her daughter down.
 
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Egoista

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sorry no place for that in a tennis interview.

they could have asked her this after the tournament somewhere else
 
heninfan99

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Why exactly? Pro tennis is based on sponsorships and the flow of money. Reporters should report on the news readers want. Most of us are intrigued by this. She has a right not to answer too.

Egoista said:
sorry no place for that in a tennis interview.

they could have asked her this after the tournament somewhere else
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PHA

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Egoista said:
sorry no place for that in a tennis interview.

they could have asked her this after the tournament somewhere else
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Huh? Help me understand why a reporter was out of line to follow up on a detailed piece from one of the top writers in the sport?

What else is interesting or different about her? Any reporters who didn't ask weren't doing their job.
 
ollinger

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^^ Athletes in many sports are expected to meet with the press after a competition. It's generally considered out of bounds to ask questions that are not related to the competition itself and it's very common practice for athletes, be they football or basketball or whatever, to refuse to answer questions they consider unduly personal or unrelated to competing on the court/field. A question about her finances in this sense would generally be considered out of line. I doubt many athletes would even entertain answering a question about their personal financial dealings.
 
Devil_dog

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It's a press conference. With reporters. The question is legit since she gets prize money and she/her father has jilted investors to help her get where she is. She/her father dug that hole.
 
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El Diablo

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"Mr. President, when was the last time you and Michelle had carnal relations?" It's a press conference. With reporters. The question is personal and won't get an answer, and the reporter will not be able to ask more questions for a LONG time. Likewise how a tennis player supported herself in becoming a pro; it's none of the press's business, nor is what she does with any money she wins.
 
Devil_dog

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El Diablo said:
"Mr. President, when was the last time you and Michelle had carnal relations?" It's a press conference. With reporters. The question is personal and won't get an answer, and the reporter will not be able to ask more questions for a LONG time. Likewise how a tennis player supported herself in becoming a pro; it's none of the press's business, nor is what she does with any money she wins.
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You've obviously forgot when another president who had an affair with an intern was questioned. During White House press conferences. With reporters. And cameras. But that was because it was relevant because he was caught in a lie.

Likewise, when investors have come out and have even filed lawsuits to get their money back and she/her father won't come clean about it even though she's obviously earning money at tournaments, then it's someone's business to find out why. And that's a reporters job. To ask questions. Sometimes they throw up lobs like what color they like to wear on court. And sometimes they ask why are they jilting investors who've helped them get to play the sport which rewards them with prize money. She doesn't have to answer to reporters. But she/her father surely has to answer to the people they've ripped off.
 
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loci

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it's a private matter between two parties. litigation between the two parties can resolve the issue. she certainly doesn't have to, and has the right not to, discuss it in a press conference.
 
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El Diablo

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The press has devolved in this sense. Reporters knew about the secret door in FDR's library at Hyde Park used to get his girlfriend in and out but never wrote about it. They believed it was not appropriate to report on what he did privately. Reporters have no such standards today. As for the Clinton issue you mention, I think the press paid too much attention to that as well. The perjury issue warranted some attention as it involved the President, but that's about it. As for Giorgi, I see it more as the courts' job to deal with her father and the investors, not the press, and she should not answer their questions.
 
heninfan99

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Which court is going to resolve this? They move from country to country.

If she's prancing around these tourneys on stolen monies then the question is legit.

Back in the day we had real investigative journalism often collecting information the authorities could not. See Greg Palast's work as a modern example.

But it is just a girl playing tennis and I like her aggressive game yet it doesn't hurt to ask. In some countries they ask athletes tough questions often. She can pass on answering but it speaks volumes.

What about asking athletes directly about steroid use? Or is that private matter?


loci said:
it's a private matter between two parties. litigation between the two parties can resolve the issue. she certainly doesn't have to, and has the right not to, discuss it in a press conference.
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Devil_dog

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El Diablo said:
As for Giorgi, I see it more as the courts' job to deal with her father and the investors, not the press, and she should not answer their questions.
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I never said it was the job of the press was to deal with the lawsuit. Their job is to ask questions and attempt to get both sides of the story. They can ask questions and Giorgi and her father can choose to answer or not in a press conference. The bilked investors/sponsors chose to speak about the issue in the original article so the ball is in Giorgi's side of the court so to speak. But, yes, she has the right not to answer any questions. But, again, the reporters can ask them - that's their job.
 
SLD76

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The question seemed kind of sensationalist and petty by the reporter but then again, she is doing her job.

Camila has every right to refuse to answer as well.
 
ttbrowne

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You have given me new hope...maybe the reporters were way out of line about asking Alex Rodriguez about steroid use...."Let's talk about the game. That's not the game."
 
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Tcbtennis

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A reporter has the right to ask the question and she has a right to refuse to answer. His persistence in trying to get her to answer seems like bullying. It is a legal matter and she should absolutely not say anything about it or it could possibly be used against her in court.
 
SLD76

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ttbrowne said:
You have given me new hope...maybe the reporters were way out of line about asking Alex Rodriguez about steroid use...."Let's talk about the game. That's not the game."
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BS non sequiter. Steroid use is related to baseball is it is expressly banned by the sport. Reporters have a right to ask about it, especially when ones name is mentioned with an illicit PED clinic.

So far as I know, Camila's murky finances have no bearing on the game of tennis, those are her personal affairs.

Now if you wanted your analogy to make sense, you could have had a reporter , at that time, ask Arod about his ex wife and their divorce proceedings. That would have made sense as an equal analogy.
 
SLD76

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Tcbtennis said:
A reporter has the right to ask the question and she has a right to refuse to answer. His persistence in trying to get her to answer seems like bullying. It is a legal matter and she should absolutely not say anything about it or it could possibly be used against her in court.
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Tmano

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Why asking her or keep blaming her for what her dad has done? her dad was watching all the matches....he was there, he is always there with her, so I believe if someone like a reporter or even you would approach him not her for this kind of questions.
 
Bartelby

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it's not their job to ask such questions in the context that they did, which is strictly confined to in competition matters.

If they want to trail her and ask questions then that's a different story, but I still don't think journalism exists to collect debts.

That's what the courts are for and they have had some sort of litigation and more was threatened the next time she arrived in america.

This does not seem to have happened.


Devil_dog said:
I never said it was the job of the press was to deal with the lawsuit. Their job is to ask questions and attempt to get both sides of the story. They can ask questions and Giorgi and her father can choose to answer or not in a press conference. The bilked investors/sponsors chose to speak about the issue in the original article so the ball is in Giorgi's side of the court so to speak. But, yes, she has the right not to answer any questions. But, again, the reporters can ask them - that's their job.
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heninfan99

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Yes and no. She signed the last few contracts. There was a big piece on this.
Now it's a Catch Me If You Can-type thing. Plus it's the elephant in the room (or on the court).

Tmano said:
Why asking her or keep blaming her for what her dad has done? her dad was watching all the matches....he was there, he is always there with her, so I believe if someone like a reporter or even you would approach him not her for this kind of questions.
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tacou

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Tmano said:
Why asking her or keep blaming her for what her dad has done? her dad was watching all the matches....he was there, he is always there with her, so I believe if someone like a reporter or even you would approach him not her for this kind of questions.
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This is one of the most confusing parts of it all to me..it's not like the Giorgis are globe-trotting spies. Their current and future whereabouts can easily be found online; why the investors chose to waste time on the SI article and not just serve them a court order at one of the tourneys she plays, I do not know.


Giorgis need to handle this one way or another. I don't think it's a coincidence that this little incident occurs and then she gets absolutely routed next day
 
Beacon Hill

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tacou said:
This is one of the most confusing parts of it all to me..it's not like the Giorgis are globe-trotting spies. Their current and future whereabouts can easily be found online; why the investors chose to waste time on the SI article and not just serve them a court order at one of the tourneys she plays, I do not know.


Giorgis need to handle this one way or another. I don't think it's a coincidence that this little incident occurs and then she gets absolutely routed next day
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Maybe the investors are hoping public embarrassment will encourage debt repayment, rather than having to go through onerous court proceedings. You're right, this will follow them until they deal with it, so the sooner they do, the better.
 
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tenniscasey

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tacou said:
Giorgis need to handle this one way or another. I don't think it's a coincidence that this little incident occurs and then she gets absolutely routed next day
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Giorgi lost a three-setter in the first round of Miami qualifying Monday. Doesn't look like she's playing doubles, so I imagine she's already left town.
 
spystud

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Never a dull moment around her...

Camila Giorgi risks being left off Italy's Olympic tennis squad for this year's Rio de Janeiro Games after severing ties with her national federation.

"The ITF rules say that players must be 'in good standing' with their federation to qualify for the Games. For me right now Giorgi is not in good standing," Italian Tennis Federation president Angelo Binaghi said Tuesday.

Last month, Giorgi announced in a brief statement that she was cutting relations with the federation and would not play on Italy's Fed Cup team for this weekend's World Group playoff against Spain. She will compete in qualifying for the Porsche Tennis Grand Prix in Stuttgart, Germany, instead.

Binaghi also said that on Monday he sent a letter to Giorgi's father and coach, Sergio, seeking $180,000 for broken contracts.

On Sunday, the 49th-ranked Giorgi lost in the final of Katowice Open for the third consecutive year. She lost 6-4, 6-0 to eighth-seeded Dominika Cibulkova of Slovakia.

The federation is likely to open disciplinary proceedings against Giorgi, who trains at a federation facility in Tirrenia.

"We're waiting for them to pay up and they certainly won't, so at that point it's difficult to be in good standing with the people who you asked for help," Binaghi said. "We've cared for her over the years and then when they win two matches they forget about us."

Sergio Giorgi did not immediately respond to a call for comment.

Karin Knapp, ranked 74th, took Giorgi's place on the Fed Cup team, which also includes Roberta Vinci, Sara Errani and Francesca Schiavone.

Giorgi, 24, has played in five Fed Cup ties for Italy, with a record of three wins and five losses.

Giorgi is in position to qualify for Rio, with the top 56 in the rankings getting direct acceptances for the Olympic tournament.
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