Stringer lockout vs spring loaded?

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
OK ... I need some stringer education. I know there are constant pull stringers and lockout. I guess those are both electronic ... and have to be plugged in. I thought just constant pull machines were electronic so I assumed my stringer had a lockout. I asked him ... and he says he has a spring loaded stringer. What is that? Is that a version of lockout?
 

Muppet

Legend
OK ... I need some stringer education. I know there are constant pull stringers and lockout. I guess those are both electronic ... and have to be plugged in. I thought just constant pull machines were electronic so I assumed my stringer had a lockout. I asked him ... and he says he has a spring loaded stringer. What is that? Is that a version of lockout?
That's what my ex-stringer said. I think they're trying to confuse us. Spring loaded = lockout. Lockout depends on a spring and crank and requires periodic calibration. Drop weight depends on gravity and doesn't ever need to be calibrated. Electronic and electric need electricity. Of the two, electronic is more accurate and precise. Both require periodic calibration.

For about $500, you can get a heavy-duty drop weight with fixed clamps. It's a simple machine, but it's slower to operate. There are less expensive dropweights with lesser features and worse build quality. Lockouts start at about the $500 price point. I like a drop weight because you can add stretch to a string by letting the tensioner pull for longer before clamping off and hopefully being consistent on all pulls. With Lockouts it is more difficult to intentionally pre-stretch the string during tensioning. But when you don't want extra stretch, as with a multi, a lockout stops pulling when the mechanism clicks. Dawdling with the string under tension with a dropweight elongates the string, where dawdling after the mechanism clicks on a lockout will allow the string to relax.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
That's what my ex-stringer said. I think they're trying to confuse us. Spring loaded = lockout. Lockout depends on a spring and crank and requires periodic calibration. Drop weight depends on gravity and doesn't ever need to be calibrated. Electronic and electric need electricity. Of the two, electronic is more accurate and precise. Both require periodic calibration.

For about $500, you can get a heavy-duty drop weight with fixed clamps. It's a simple machine, but it's slower to operate. There are less expensive dropweights with lesser features and worse build quality. Lockouts start at about the $500 price point. I like a drop weight because you can add stretch to a string by letting the tensioner pull for longer before clamping off and hopefully being consistent on all pulls. With Lockouts it is more difficult to intentionally pre-stretch the string during tensioning. But when you don't want extra stretch, as with a multi, a lockout stops pulling when the mechanism clicks. Dawdling with the string under tension with a dropweight elongates the string, where dawdling after the mechanism clicks on a lockout will allow the string to relax.

Thx Muppet. Now I have this question going in two posts. Jeeze.

I'm not buying a machine. I gave my alpha table top away years ago ... probably should have kept it. This came up today when I dropped off cream to be strung ... and was asking him what kind of stringer he had. I had posted a question about fullbed cream tension, and it occurred to me it would be helpful to know what type of machine he has. In a way, regarding reference tensions of what I like ... doesn't matter because my racquets have been strung with his stringer for over 10 years.

Thx for the info ... that was very clear and helpful.
 

Muppet

Legend
Thx Muppet. Now I have this question going in two posts. Jeeze.

I'm not buying a machine. I gave my alpha table top away years ago ... probably should have kept it. This came up today when I dropped off cream to be strung ... and was asking him what kind of stringer he had. I had posted a question about fullbed cream tension, and it occurred to me it would be helpful to know what type of machine he has. In a way, regarding reference tensions of what I like ... doesn't matter because my racquets have been strung with his stringer for over 10 years.

Thx for the info ... that was very clear and helpful.
My pleasure.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Get an electronic constant pull. Its the only way to string kevlar at 80+ lbs. yeah you say you wont ever go that high but a stringing machine is a gate way drug. Come on, just one more lb tighter...
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Get an electronic constant pull. Its the only way to string kevlar at 80+ lbs. yeah you say you wont ever go that high but a stringing machine is a gate way drug. Come on, just one more lb tighter...

I think you should donate your elbow to science.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I think you should donate your elbow to science.
Dont think for one minute i dont put my arm in the stringing machine too! Got to keep it loose

Sadly they wont take it without the rest of me. But studies would find something like this

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The constant pull aspect of an electronic machine seems to tension the crosses better than a lock out, presumably as it takes that little bit of extra time to stretch the interwoven strings, which isn't a problem with the constant pull; mains usually not so much difference. The electronic has more consistency as it always pulls the strings at the same speed, compared with the potential to rush or dawdle with the winder on a lock out. This is, of course, assuming you are also good at leaving all strings under tension for approximately the same time during stringing etc. etc. I'd say ceteris paribus a racquet strung on a constant pull will feel the same as a racquet strung two pounds tighter on a lock out. My 2c as they say around these parts...
 
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