Imago
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Hopefully, they will change it now that the secret is out...big secrets lol...new PJ
T Fight 315?
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Irvin
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Just an idea, but that wider section of the grommet adds a little weight and gives you a little higher TW putting a little more mass behind the ball.
JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
The biggest mistake one can make, is to think that the Tfight DC or Dynacore are even remotely on the same level as the LTD's One are high RA tweeners (that are good frames, but have less dwell time and more free power) the other are the LTD's (lower RA, pallet system instead of foam handle, great feeling, ridiculous control having, beautiful paintjob rocking, thin beamed, players sticks, that are more classic type of frames!!!
I actually picked up both (well, I went insane on LTD's, and just got one of the Dynacore (old line) Tfight 300's. In stock form, they are vastly different. After I customized the Dynacore, it is actually a nice racquet. I thought the feel was going to be horrid, but it wasn't bad after I added silicone, lead, and leather.
As far as other brands frames, I would compare the LTD's toward a blend of a Head Prestige and a Radical Mp. The Dynacore's I would compare to a more comfortable Pure Drive.
One are high RA tweeners (that are good frames, but have less dwell time and more free power) the other are the LTD's (lower RA, pallet system instead of foam handle, great feeling, ridiculous control having, beautiful paintjob rocking, thin beamed, players sticks, that are more classic type of frames!!! I actually picked up both (well, I went insane on LTD's, and just got one of the Dynacore (old line) Tfight 300's. In stock form, they are vastly different. After I customized the Dynacore, it is actually a nice racquet. I thought the feel was going to be horrid, but it wasn't bad after I added silicone, lead, and leather.
As far as other brands frames, I would compare the LTD's toward a blend of a Head Prestige and a Radical Mp. The Dynacore's I would compare to a more comfortable Pure Drive.
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Irvin
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That being the case why doesn't any pro play with one? Will be nice to see if any pros play with the new versions.
As far as the pallet is concerned the Limiteds still have foam pallets they are just two piece instead of one piece and you could put a TK82 or TK82S pallet on your 300 if you wanted to. The big difference between the Limiteds and the other frames is the frame stiffness. To each his own but I prefer the DC over the Dynacore and the Ltd would be my third choice. But I'm sure you and many others would not agree.
EDIT: I agree that all three are a little different but I doubt you'll get everyone to agree any one is better than the other two.
Crisp
Professional
I actually believe that JANKO AND VERDASCO at one point played with this mold. I have a janko personal model and it has all the same characteristics as the 16m ltd. I don't think he plays with it anymore tho I actually think he did make a change to a newer frame and as we know verdasco has changed more than most racquetaholics here. Haha.
Irvin
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You're correct but no one plays with it now.
Crisp
Professional
I know I thought for a while bedene was too but maybe not. All I know is the RA lets me play longer than other frames.
zalive
Hall of Fame
When you mention this...stock specs are not as light as a true pro stock should be, which limits customization space. And at the same time weight distribution inclines to depolarized (least mass in the upper hoop - at least it's so according to TW specs), which goes in opposite direction to modern custom pro setups which tend to polarization. Combination of the two really makes it harder to customize, so I'm actually surprised any pro ever used it.
I wonder really whether Tec will change something in this regard with the next Ltd.
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Irvin
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I think you will see a higher SW in the newer Limited frames, but I've been wrong before.
Irvin
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Many people like a more flexible frame, nothing wrong with that. I bet all manufacturers would like to find 1 frame everyone loved.
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AllCourtHeathen
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So that's it.....
Intredasting....
Hopefully Tecnifibre make it available in Australia this time and don't go full '**** like last time
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AllCourtHeathen
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Tried out my 16m tonight, and feel pretty happy with it. May put a tiny bit of lead on the hoop, but may not even bother with that.
No problems with directional control at all. Felt I could hit it wherever I wanted it. And shots that would have sailed long with the 18m *just* seemed to drop in with the 16m. I'll wait til I have strung my 18mains racquets exactly the same as the 16's before I make a true comparison though.
Very happy with the tk82 4 1/2 grip shape too.
Strung it with klip gut mains and flex infinity crosses, and it felt sublime.
Pretty stoked.
No problems with directional control at all. Felt I could hit it wherever I wanted it. And shots that would have sailed long with the 18m *just* seemed to drop in with the 16m. I'll wait til I have strung my 18mains racquets exactly the same as the 16's before I make a true comparison though.
Very happy with the tk82 4 1/2 grip shape too.
Strung it with klip gut mains and flex infinity crosses, and it felt sublime.
Pretty stoked.
zalive
Hall of Fame
Makes sense.
For what I know @Subaruvich measured higher SW on his 315 Ltd, however I'd swear I saw similar quote from some other player somewhere...it would not surprise me if either TW measurement was accidentally on a low side of a manufacturing variance, or Tecnifibre silently pumped the SW up a bit in between to improve power.
...while at the same time the production cost for that one was low as well. Cos' it seems a relatively higher production cost is a no-go for them, no matter how good or loved the racquet is.
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
You have a broken string. I can fix that for you. LOL I'm just curious, your signature says 315 Ltd 18x20 but all your rackets have 16 mains. How do you like the racket that looks like a 315 DC compared to the Limited frames? Judging from the pattern and the grip that is not a 315 DC frame is it? Can you tell me more?
EDIT: I'm amazed some other Limited aficionados (@JohnBPittsburgh) did not notice that frame in the center is a prototype.
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Irvin
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Judging from the floor, rug, and the tie off knot at 6T, that racket looks very much like the pictures of the prototype posted back on page 56.
So that's it.....
Intredasting....
Hopefully Tecnifibre make it available in Australia this time and don't go full '**** like last time
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Crisp
Professional
I don't think @AllCourtHeathen was claiming the racquets as his own.... merely re posting the pics from earlier for all to see
Slick Tennis
Rookie
Former world #1junior Filip Peliwo currently plays the ltd 315. He just won 2 Futures events in less than 3 weeks.
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
True I just assumed they were his and noticed the racket in the center did not have the Limited paint job and looked like a 315 DC but it wasn't. When plagiarizing someone else's work it is common to quote a reference so others won't be confused. I don't remember seeing those pics before but they are there on pages 55-56.
Irvin
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Tecnifibre Aus does not sell tennis only squash.
Filip did play with the Limited but switched to the 305.
http://www.**********.net/news/gear/2013/12/30/me-and-my-racket-filip-peliwo
JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
There will be a new Tflash in June-ish as well (Yes, those were pics from btjohnson's instagram account that were posted above) His cat looks awesome KITTY!!!!
My kitty is waaaaayyyyy better though Lol, she is sponsored by Tecnifibre, and these are her frames!!! I think she will crack the top 100 this year....I am rooting for her in Wimbledon!!
(Yes, those were pics from btjohnson's instagram account that were posted above) His cat looks awesome KITTY!!!!My kitty is waaaaayyyyy better though
Lol, she is sponsored by Tecnifibre, and these are her frames!!! I think she will crack the top 100 this year....I am rooting for her in Wimbledon!!
That post is from December 30, 2013. If you check his twitter account tweets the pictures are 315 Ltd 18m in 2015 in mid July. Early July he was using a T-fight 305 ATP and then a 305 DC. Then he changed to a Ltd 315. I haven't seen any pictures of his more recent matches that show what he is using this year.
Irvin
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He is now using the 305 w/Razor Code @48#
http://tecnifibre.com/en/Player/Team-Pro-Men/Filip-Peliwo/96
Those pictures of him on Tecnifibre were from 2014.
The player profile information may be out of date on the Tecnifibre site.
http://www.rds.ca/tennis/peliwo-elimine-a-rimouski-1.1109490
Here is one from 2017
http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/01/13/filip-peliwo-manque-dessence
The string appears to be some sort of hybrid in the 2017 photos.
The player profile information may be out of date on the Tecnifibre site.
http://www.rds.ca/tennis/peliwo-elimine-a-rimouski-1.1109490
Here is one from 2017
http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/01/13/filip-peliwo-manque-dessence
The string appears to be some sort of hybrid in the 2017 photos.
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Crisp
Professional
Well I'm not sure where you got the information that tecnifibre Australia don't sell tennis. As they have supplied me with tennis equipment since about 2010 or so.
Crisp
Professional
No problem it happens. You have actually been a fantastic source for tecnifibre information.
Slick Tennis
Rookie
Guys, I can confirm that Peliwo plays with the Ltd - I even have his specs. He made the switch during the Davis Cup match-up vs Belgium.
Crisp
Professional
He is welcome to join this thread then... he may even have more ltds then @JohnBPittsburgh but I doubt it haha.
JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
I'd be curious to find out what his specs are
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AllCourtHeathen
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I find my 16m with a gut/poly hybrid to have decent power but nothing over the top. I am able to step in and swing right through the ball and keep it in which is what has made me like this frame so much.Started to like 16M but seems that power is in excess with NG and poly. Also got 50 strange OGs from China with a square PU strip underneath - no more vibrations at all.
How do you find those overgrips? Do you lose any feel for the bevels? Do your fingers lock into the grooves?
JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
I strung my 18m with gut poly around 56/50 and it felt amazing What tension did you string yours?
What tension did you string yours?
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AllCourtHeathen
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Knowing racquet companies it is probably a Pure Drive with a paint job LOL
Srs though I'd like to see what alterations/lead a Pro has made to an LTD to reinforce it for the rigours of the tour.
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
Just out of curiosity I went to Filip Peliwo's facebook page and asked him what racket he used and if he would mind sharing his specs. Here is his response:
"Tecnifibre t-fight 315 limited. It's an older frame. 326g 31.2 balance 293 swing weight
Think it's an 18/20
And a 98 or 97 head
98 I think
Grip 4 3/8"
EDIT: I am assuming those specs are unstrung specs. Assuming String will add about 18 g, SW will go up about 37 pts, and balance goes up 1.2 cm. That means his strung specs are about:
SW = 330
RW = 157.4
Weight = 344 g
Balance = 32.4 cm
MgR/I = 21.1
"Tecnifibre t-fight 315 limited. It's an older frame. 326g 31.2 balance 293 swing weight
Think it's an 18/20
And a 98 or 97 head
98 I think
Grip 4 3/8"
EDIT: I am assuming those specs are unstrung specs. Assuming String will add about 18 g, SW will go up about 37 pts, and balance goes up 1.2 cm. That means his strung specs are about:
SW = 330
RW = 157.4
Weight = 344 g
Balance = 32.4 cm
MgR/I = 21.1
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AllCourtHeathen
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Not sure tbh, I just left it in the hands of a racquet whisperer to string LOL it is a tad firm right now, but I actually like it, awesome control and not a scintilla of arm pain, though it will settle in to a "mature" tension soon as it loosens up obviously, so we will see then. It may launch a little more then. I hope not.I strung my 18m with gut poly around 56/50 and it felt amazing
I practiced serves for an hour then hit against the wall for an hour tonight after work, and it just feels so good in my hand.
Imago
Hall of Fame
At first strange and big but then my fingers found their way - you cannot swing forehand and backhand though
I strung my 18m with gut poly around 56/50 and it felt amazing
23/22 kg
Slick Tennis
Rookie
He did provide you his unstrung specs. he is currently playing with a full bed of poly. He's on his way to winning a third Futures in 4 weeks.
Slick Tennis
Rookie
He has a Wilson grip shape.
Slick Tennis
Rookie
Btw I love this frame. I strung mine with black cyclone at 18g. My only gripe is that I find it to wobble on backhand
slices. I playing more and more with the new Blade cv but it's not exactly what I'm after. If only there could be an in-between. Really looking fwd to the new iteration of the ltd hopefully they make slight improvements and tweaks.
slices. I playing more and more with the new Blade cv but it's not exactly what I'm after. If only there could be an in-between. Really looking fwd to the new iteration of the ltd hopefully they make slight improvements and tweaks.
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