Why do player yell at their box???
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tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Paging for Sir Andy Murray .
PMChambers
Hall of Fame
"Because you never put the box on a pedestal"
Quote: 40 year old virgin.
Quote: 40 year old virgin.
Poisoned Slice
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BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
My favourite is when the player hits a winner that's received with polite applause from his box. The player then goes beserk and insists on a standing ovation which the box reluctantly complies with, getting to their feet one at a time in disorderly fashion. Makes you wonder if the player is auditioning to be President of North Korea.
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VexlanderPrime
Guest
Nailed it.
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
no, it's because there are quite a lot of tour pros who are just pathetic people. Need someone/something to blame?? Among other individual sports, I don't recall a pro golfer abusing his club or his caddy after missing a shot, I don't recall a figure skater screaming at the coach while waiting for the scores of a disappointing performance, the list goes on. No other athletes I've seen are so quick to demand praise/approval or so quick to assess blame while they play. They are a sorry lot.
KarmaKorps
Rookie
Wow, there's a surprising lack of perception here.
You see a player looking at their box and screaming at their box. To you, this means they're blaming their box. Has it occurred to you that they are sharing their self-frustration with their box? Maybe ensuring their box knows that they're trying hard, or being hard on themselves (i.e. not wanting to act too nonchalant as though they don't care about things)?
It's a bit more complicated than you think. Sure, some players blame their box. and many are just sharing the wild ride with their box. There's no need to be so judgemental.
You see a player looking at their box and screaming at their box. To you, this means they're blaming their box. Has it occurred to you that they are sharing their self-frustration with their box? Maybe ensuring their box knows that they're trying hard, or being hard on themselves (i.e. not wanting to act too nonchalant as though they don't care about things)?
It's a bit more complicated than you think. Sure, some players blame their box. and many are just sharing the wild ride with their box. There's no need to be so judgemental.
MasturB
Legend
Well the coach is watching and basically living out the point through the player. The coach is likely thinking the same thing the player is thinking. They've gone over strategy and game plans.
When a player yells at their box it's mainly to the coach since the coach probably knows exactly what the player is thinking without the swearing.
So you naturally yell at the person who would understand your frustrations on a lack of execution or the gameplan isn't working.
When a player yells at their box it's mainly to the coach since the coach probably knows exactly what the player is thinking without the swearing.
So you naturally yell at the person who would understand your frustrations on a lack of execution or the gameplan isn't working.
norcal
Legend
Murray's coach must constantly be thinking he's a f-ing idiot.
Never really thought about. Bit of all of the above I think
Sometimes it's not negative I'm guessing but to be heard, they have to raise their voice in that noisy environment to be heard... so it looks aggressive
When it is negative, it's like a frustrated person snapping at their friends/family ... just letting off steam at those who'll take it understandingly without returning fire. Sad
, but happens in all walks of life
Finally, if you have to yell at someone, better the box than anyone else around (crowd, officials, opponent, umpire). You risk warnings, penalties and fines doing that - unlike yelling at the box
I liked the way Boris Becker would handle his frustrations. He'd mostly just yell at himself or seemingly at no one in particular
I remember an occasion at Wimbledon when he was warned for an audible obscenity. .. and thereafter switched to shouting in German instead. From his tone, it didn't sound like the actual content of what he was saying had changed much!
Sometimes it's not negative I'm guessing but to be heard, they have to raise their voice in that noisy environment to be heard... so it looks aggressive
When it is negative, it's like a frustrated person snapping at their friends/family ... just letting off steam at those who'll take it understandingly without returning fire. Sad
, but happens in all walks of lifeFinally, if you have to yell at someone, better the box than anyone else around (crowd, officials, opponent, umpire). You risk warnings, penalties and fines doing that - unlike yelling at the box
I liked the way Boris Becker would handle his frustrations. He'd mostly just yell at himself or seemingly at no one in particular
I remember an occasion at Wimbledon when he was warned for an audible obscenity. .. and thereafter switched to shouting in German instead. From his tone, it didn't sound like the actual content of what he was saying had changed much!
Mainad
Bionic Poster
MasturB
Legend
Not really.
They're coaching Murray because they know he's one of the most talented players on the planet. That includes his flaws. Murray was swearing at his boxes before he won slams. He was swearing at them while winning slams.
Some coaches like the firey aspect of Mugg. It can be positive and negative. Nole is arguably as much of a ***** when he starts entering that brat mode.
Perhaps we've been spoiled with the Rafa-Roger moderate demeanors. I actually don't mind Murray's box swearing. I find it entertaining most of the time. Just one man's blue collar struggle.
Tommy Haas
Hall of Fame
Because the player is the boss and his coach and support entourage are his employees. If you have an angry boss, he'll often take it out on the workers. Rarely will you see a player bark at their box if it's their loved sitting there.
La Grande
G.O.A.T.
Habit. One picked up from watching other players do it. Simple as that.
Just like grunting. You don't have to grunt when you play, but others players do it, you try it yourself and it becomes your thing. Then you think "Why stop?"
I accept that it can be seen as a form of venting, but I still think players just sort of... do what they always do. More habit than anything else.
Just like grunting. You don't have to grunt when you play, but others players do it, you try it yourself and it becomes your thing. Then you think "Why stop?"
I accept that it can be seen as a form of venting, but I still think players just sort of... do what they always do. More habit than anything else.
MasturB
Legend
Don't think Murray or Nole viewed Lendl or Beck as employees.
They're more like idols/mentors.
And you don't look at them like they're below you. They actually respect their opinions and tennis knowledge.
Thundergod
Hall of Fame
I think Murray's box likes getting yelled at.
Tommy Haas
Hall of Fame
Lahyani would undoubtedly penalize any player who yelled at their opponent's box.
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
Or POTUS, like Trump expecting tributes from his cabinet.
Brauvenklatsch
Rookie
Kyrgios told his box off for not cheering him louder.
I think his box should whistle or boo when he starts tanking again.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
This.
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
yes, toddlers do that. Adults assume their people know they're trying hard in these situations
Hmmmm. This is why I'm puzzled a tad. When I stub my toe I scream and yell and rant and rave… but I don't run to my wife and kids and verbally abuse them. That's why this doesn't make sense to me.
Oh and if they are yelling "to" their box saying things like "I'm doing everything I can and it's not working WTF should I do now?" I can get that. But if they are yelling "at" their box/coach saying things like "WTF kind of plan did you come up with because it's not working!" or "you guys suck" or "where the heck is your support, start cheering more!"- well that seems more pathetic.
Like I said I'd be curious as to what they are yelling… the commentators never repeat what they are saying… they don't want to taint the sport I guess. LOL
Like I said I'd be curious as to what they are yelling… the commentators never repeat what they are saying… they don't want to taint the sport I guess. LOL
This makes sense to me… and I do this when frustrated. The funning thing is my double partner's first name is the same as mine…. so when I yell at myself in third person with things like "Dave- what are you an idiot for trying that!" or "Dave stay focused and move the feet!" I hope my partner knows I'm not yelling at him, but that's the way I deal with frustration. Yelling at my partner or anyone else just doesn't even make sense to me.
It seems a bit bizarre to compare the the frustrations of a multi-millionaire playing a made up game to the real day-to-day issues faced by the actual working class.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
I never said you yell at your wife, kids, girlfriend, or whatever. I said "I" yell at the nightstand which is the object that is most related to my toe being in serious pain. Like some of players when their gameplan isn't working look at their box and want to shift some blame because everything that they went over before the match is not working. I have seen players do this throughout mactches.
Tommy Haas
Hall of Fame
I'd rather see Murray take it out on his box than feign injury like he used to do when things weren't working out.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Mauresmo stated after she and Murray parted that she had been a bit uncomfortable with it. Maybe lady coaches are a little more sensitive?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Bingo.
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Nashvegas
Guest
Right. And someone mentioned that pro golfers don't yell and break their clubs. Setting aside the fact that some players do in fact do those things, golfers are also prone to acts like blaming every missed putt on a spike mark, wayward blade of grass, or green that mysteriously didn't break the way it was supposed to break. The fault never lies with the stroke. That's by design, because they don't want to start doubting their execution.
I think Murray's venting is a form of this deflecting. He doesn't want to consider that he may be executing poorly, he wants other factors to blame. That keeps him out of his own head about his game.
Maybe.
Thundergod
Hall of Fame
ProbablyMauresmo stated after she and Murray parted that she had been a bit uncomfortable with it. Maybe lady coaches are a little more sensitive?
I know you didn't. I was just saying.
Ummm. Themselves. I guess it depends what they are yelling… they never cover the content of their messages during the matches.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Very good point here.
tennis24x7
Professional
You haven't seen the former french wimbledon ladies winner do that?
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
I think the players should yell at the opponent's box from now on! Make the tennis match even more dramatic!
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