dgoran
Hall of Fame
My string bed is down from 55 to 45 and even stock is very sweet now.
Wilson Ultra Tour (Monfils)
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anhboa2
Rookie
Not much stiffer. But close in term of balance and the way they swing, also Blade 2015 is not that powerful compared with its other version.
Not sure if you have hit extensively with any of them ?
TennisCounrty
New User
what are some of your UT's weighing in at stock? Mine was 335g with a 6HL with og and dampner. I feel like mine might be .2 higher.
anhboa2
Rookie
Yes H22 is closer but is also not available for the Public, not worth for the price (compare with Blade)
dgoran
Hall of Fame
mine is 328 no dampener and with og
The price of a H22 is still cheaper than a new Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti video card. The H22 is available for sale at various grey market sites. It's definitely a better option than the Blade if you like the H22 since the Blade isn't a substitute in terms of desired playability.
anhboa2
Rookie
To be honest, i have played almost all popular pro stock rackets of Head & Wilson. They cost about 900-1200 Us/pair where i stay, they don't actually perform any better than my current rackets (GSP and now Blade 98), Too cumbersome to perform well (my case always over 350gr which u don't need @ 4.5). They are Definitely not better option than Blade.
Note that i'm talking about competitive tennis not some boring friendly rallies that we hit with friends.
Panquake
Rookie
I think my H22's are better than the blades by far, but that's just my opinion
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Zoolander
Hall of Fame
Excellent non sequitur my friend!A ham sandwich is better than complete happiness, because nothing is better than complete happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing.
Tried the current Blade 98 CV. Wanted to like it but didnt. I did like the muted feel of the CV and the pretty dense 16x19 pattern but the racquet itself felt stiff as a board, no "give" or forgiveness in it. It played like it was fairly stiff and has a high twistweight, which it does. Dont know how to describe it except that it did feel like playing with a board.
anhboa2
Rookie
I played most of my sticks @35-45lbs, feels superb. But didn't like UT, not as forgiving as Blade nor feel better on sweetspot, just another lighter (modern) prestige with better feel.
Panquake
Rookie
That's because it is meant to be a platform racket, you should add weight to the hoop to get it to play how you like
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DJTaurus
Hall of Fame
Blade CV is very string sensitive. Use only monofilament polyester strings and specifically test the 16x19 version with Luxilon 4G 1.25 at 23,5kg. Plays like heaven. You will find totally different playability if you try it with an octagon polyester like RPM blast. It plays like crap. Also try it without damp.... countevail takes away most of the vibrations. But i have to admit it's stiffer than the previous blades and provides more easy power when under pressure.
anhboa2
Rookie
Then We'll have a heavier head racket, with heavier weight than Blade, think I don't need that. I throw it to my brother and he enjoys it though.
I Guess I'm addicted to the feel of Blade 2015 already.
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roger presley
Hall of Fame
H22 is from another planet for Blade.
Anton
Legend
TheOneHander
Professional
Anton
Legend
In stock form UT has that really smooth, creamy impact feel DR98 can't match, but DR98 generally has better string-bed characteristics - slightly more power/consistency/spin in it's response.
DR98 is also heavier stock, but I still feel like wider beam and more open stringbed should give it the stability/spin edge. But of course there is no rule that you keep them stock and perhaps UT can be a better choice for those looking for that silky-smooth ride with some more weight.
I still have to try out different string setups and a bit more weight on the handle with UT to really get a final opinion on it.
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The UT are so much easier to swing compared to the Blade
roger presley
Hall of Fame
For me,any Blade.
Anton
Legend
Can you send me pictures of where you added the lead?
Still 5.5 points head light.
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anhboa2
Rookie
LOL that post was comparing with Djokovic's racket
anhboa2
Rookie
moon shot
Hall of Fame
I did a split photo of the TK57e and ultra tour. It looks a bit closer than it does in person. The head shape is a bit more circular rather than the head ellipse shape. It gains size in width and curves out wider around the skips. The mains are slightly more dense through the middle. The cross in the top half of the hoop are slightly more closed while the bottom half are more open than the Head.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Still 5.5 points head light.
Nice... but why not use tungsten tape... Lead is not really good for your health... Just a thought...
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
I did a split photo of the TK57e and ultra tour. It looks a bit closer than it does in person. The head shape is a bit more circular rather than the head ellipse shape. It gains size in width and curves out wider around the skips. The mains are slightly more dense through the middle. The cross in the top half of the hoop are slightly more closed while the bottom half are more open than the Head.
Awesome... Love your split screen photo merges @moon shot ...
One is made in Austria... the other not... Personally, I don't find I need to modify my iPrestige too much... then there is the Tecnifibre 315 Limited 18M at a much lower cost and at a lower RA (new one coming soon too, supposedly)... reasons to spend 250 USD are shrinking fast... just my opinion...
Anton
Legend
Tommy Haas
Hall of Fame
I'm not eating off of it, should be fine
There are annoying groups of people in my area who hog the courts every weekend and make it a social gathering. They bring lawn chairs, water coolers, and pizza with them and stay for half a day. So some people do eat off of their racquets. I wish there was a way to ban them.
TennisCounrty
New User
I did a split photo of the TK57e and ultra tour. It looks a bit closer than it does in person. The head shape is a bit more circular rather than the head ellipse shape. It gains size in width and curves out wider around the skips. The mains are slightly more dense through the middle. The cross in the top half of the hoop are slightly more closed while the bottom half are more open than the Head.
are the head i prestige made in austria worth anything?
TennisCounrty
New User
what does this weigh in at?Still 5.5 points head light.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Fair enough... (sorry pressed wrong reply button... meant to reply to Anton... oops)
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Anton
Legend
11.9oz
Tommy Haas
Hall of Fame
The made in Austria i.Prestige is a pro stock frame. It was just a commercial racquet back when it was sold at retail. The pros liked it so much that they're still using it and that's why it's considered a pro stock frame now.
Zoolander
Hall of Fame
Still 5.5 points head light.
Is there any lead left in the world for the rest of us?!
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Depends on who you are... Some people consider them one of the best Prestige MP's of all time (are the base or frame Mould used to create the PT57E pro stock racquet), others think they are very good but prefer a different Head model (PT630 - a PT57A Mould; Radical Tour 630 - also a PT57A Mould). Others will say they don't like it... it's all personal... Whatever your thoughts, it's the last Head Prestige model made in Austria... so to many that makes all the difference in comparison to the current Head racquet c--p...
Personally, I love them... but where the comparison also lies is that the iPrestige is 63RA, same mould/ shape of racquet as the Ultra Tour (as can be seen from Moon shot's photo); same SW; same balance... etc etc... Different static weight (UT is 20g lighter)
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Head Size
Name Head Intelligence I.Prestige Midsize /Wilson Ultra Tour/ Head Intelligence I.Prestige Midplus Standard /Head Intelligence I.Prestige Midplus XL
Head Size 93in² / 600cm² 97in² / 626cm² 98in² / 632cm² 98in² / 632cm²
Length 27.00in / 68.58cm 27.00in / 68.58cm 27.00in / 68.58cm 27.50in / 69.85cm
Weight 12.10oz / 343g 11.40oz / 323g 12.10oz / 343g 11.80oz / 335g
Balance Point 5pts HL/ 6pts HL/ 6pts HL /9pts HL
Swing Weight 320/ 324 /324/ 327
Frame Stiffness 60/ 63/ 63/ 62
Beam Width 19.0mm/ 21.0mm/ 21.0mm/ 21.0mm
Tip / Shaft 19.0mm / 19.0mm// 21.0mm / 21.0mm //21.0mm / 21.0mm// 21.0mm / 21.0mm
Composition Graphite Composite w / Piezzo Electric Fibers in Shaft// Graphite //Graphite Composite w / Piezzo Electric Fibers in Shaft// Graphite Composite w / Piezzo Electric Fibers in Shaft
Power Level Low/ Low/ Low/ Low
String Pattern 18 Mains / 20 Crosses// 18 Mains / 20 Crosses// 18 Mains / 20 Crosses// 18 Mains / 20 Crosses
Mains Skip 8T,10T,8H,10H// 9T,8H,10H// 9T,8H,10H// 9T,8H,10H
Tension 48-58/ 50-60/ 50-62/ 50-62
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Anton
Legend
My 30 foot lead roll just winked at me -" yea, we'll be alright".
This makes me wonder though...are lead fumes a thing?
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
I'm not eating off of it, should be fine
Fair enough... I just try not to put it anywhere I might come into contact with it regularly...
Zoolander
Hall of Fame
Apparently if the lead melts it releases fumes that kills brain cells, and we all know that is alcohols job................ So i guess if your house is on fire and your racquet bag starts burning you best stick it outside to let the fumes dissipate safely?
Safety first!
Safety first!
TennisCounrty
New User
weird mine only has some lead in the buttcap, with a og, and a dampner it comes to 11.9 as well. Maybe mine is a bit heavier then stock?
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Bit of sarcasm there, mate...? I just try to accept that we are all different in this world... and we all have different points of view... no one is wrong or right...
Spend a $1300 on a fire resistant safe and put the rackets in there. Usually those safe can last an hour under 1700°F. This should buy you some time to escape before the lead starts to melt. There should be other hazardous chemicals in your home such as your furniture during a fire that you would need to avoid as well.
Zoolander
Hall of Fame
My apologies you are mistaken, I was replying to Antons question about lead fumes, which Dr Google told me are actually a "thing" when it melts.
Of course on a racquet thats unlikely to happen, unless, well, you're in a house fire, in which case i think his racquet would poison the whole state!
And your right, when i put lead on my racquet i cover it with electrical tape so im not incidentally touching it all the time.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Oh.. OK, my apologies, as it's sometimes hard to discern by the words written if someone is having a go or not... Thanks for the elaboration and the clear up...
I just use tungsten tape on the head of the racquet and place the lead tape on the pallet and under the grip... and I usually use an OG as well...
bkfinch
Semi-Pro
Still 5.5 points head light.
Good God Man
What is the swingweight on that thing?
(I've never put lead on the hoop below the 3/9 position)
Automatix
Legend
If you trust Google on average during a fire the temps are around 1100 degrees Fahrenheit which is close to 600 degrees Celsius.
Research by Tang et al. 2013 titled Effects of Hydroxyapatite addition on heavy metal volatility during tannery sludge incineration at such temperature around 12.5% goes into the air.
If your house is on fire, lack of oxygen, rising levels of CO and gaseous emitions from burning glue, resins and such in furniture are more likely to do you any harm... that is, in the long run, providing you survive the fire itself.
Usual bad Wilson QC with these$250 frames. Just been through a box of these to pick one out to play around with. Mines 302g, weights were north and south of 305g, had one at 309.5g another was 300g which I would of had but had a bit of paint damage! Paint appears v thin although I'm used to Angell quality so maybe it's alright. Strung it up with scorpion & 52lbs feels lighter and more flexible than the demo I hit, will play with weight over coming weeks.
