Control strings and setups for Yonex

NRMM · Apr 9, 2021

Would VS Touch mains at 53 and 4G crosses at 51 be a good option to control high(er) launch angles from a Yonex VCORE 98 which has a 16x19 open string pattern?

What has been your experience with control oriented setups on Yonex ? Full beds of RPM Blast, Solinco Confidential, Tecnifibre Red Code, Hyper-G ??

ichaseballs · Apr 9, 2021

try ptp at crosses instead. full poly will give you more control, but the vs is a nice compromise if you need comfort or power.

NRMM · Apr 9, 2021

ichaseballs said:
try ptp at crosses instead. full poly will give you more control, but the vs is a nice compromise if you need comfort or power.

I'm moving from a Blade 104 18x19 pattern with VS/4G at 53/51 to a Yonex with 16x19 and I want to be confident that all of the sudden all balls are sailing long on flat shots, which I can easily hit with my own power as I can generate a lot of it.. so comfort and control over power, definitely

WYK · Apr 9, 2021

Bring up the tension 10% or more if you want to put gut in the mix.
Solinco TB or Confidential will give you spin and control if you want to go full bed.
I'm a big fan of Confidential in my Yonex's.

NRMM · Apr 9, 2021

WYK said:
Bring up the tension 10% or more if you want to put gut in the mix.
Solinco TB or Confidential will give you spin and control if you want to go full bed.,
I'm a big fan of Confidential in my Yonex's.

Right thanks. On confidential full bed then.. which tension would you use then if you were to move from a Blade 104 tight 18x19 pattern with VS/4G at 53/51 to a Yonex VCORE 98+... ?

Sardines · Apr 9, 2021

If you want more control of that strange linertech and shifty grommet thingy of the VC98, you will probably need to up the tension of the gut mains and correspondingly for the crosses. 4G isn't the softest string for a smaller head racquet, so it won't be as comfy as on your 104, which is also more flexible by a large margin.
I would suggest you look for a softer cross like Poly Tour Fire or Pro and even a thinner gauge to give you more comfort.
Edit: Ah you have a VC98+, so it's not as stiff as the 98.21. But still a softer cross like PTF will give you comfort and allow you to string tensions a little higher for control of the stringbed response.

NRMM · Apr 9, 2021

Interesting, thanks. On the flex though.. the blade 104 (2015) is 66 stifness and the VC98 is 65..

Sardines · Apr 9, 2021

NRMM said:
Interesting, thanks. On the flex though.. the blade 104 (2015) is 66 stifness and the VC98 is 65..

Well, that sort of info should maybe be in your 1st post for better information? Haha

Brad N. · Apr 9, 2021

I use a full bed of Cyclone Tour 17 on my Vcore Pro 97.

WYK · Apr 9, 2021

NRMM said:
Right thanks. On confidential full bed then.. which tension would you use then if you were to move from a Blade 104 tight 18x19 pattern with VS/4G at 53/51 to a Yonex VCORE 98+... ?

I'd start at 50-54, and remember it needs a few games of good hitting to break in.
In tight stirngbeds like my 97F I use 18 or 17g at 58lbs, otherwise I run 16L/125 in the mid 50's. If you want a lower launch angle - use a thicker gauge.
After an initial drop, it holds tension rather well for weeks unless you really clobber the ball.
Confidential is sort of like TB soft in feel, maybe a bit stiffer, but not quite like Tour Bite.
Again, give it some hitting to break in after a fresh restring.
This reminds me, I need to re-order in case, for some crazy reason, our local club opens any time soon.

taydbear7 · Apr 9, 2021

Sardines said:
If you want more control of that strange linertech and shifty grommet thingy of the VC98, you will probably need to up the tension of the gut mains and correspondingly for the crosses. 4G isn't the softest string for a smaller head racquet, so it won't be as comfy as on your 104, which is also more flexible by a large margin.
I would suggest you look for a softer cross like Poly Tour Fire or Pro and even a thinner gauge to give you more comfort.
Edit: Ah you have a VC98+, so it's not as stiff as the 98.21. But still a softer cross like PTF will give you comfort and allow you to string tensions a little higher for control of the stringbed response.

I have a VC98+ and I was think of putting gut in the mains with Poly Tour Air in the crosses. Any recommendation on tension?

galapagos · Apr 9, 2021

NRMM said:
Would VS Touch mains at 53 and 4G crosses at 51 be a good option to control high(er) launch angles from a Yonex VCORE 98 which has a 16x19 open string pattern?

What has been your experience with control oriented setups on Yonex ? Full beds of RPM Blast, Solinco Confidential, Tecnifibre Red Code, Hyper-G ??

You can check my thread where I review many top strings - http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/ultimate-string-of-choice.689948/

Launch angle control was my "starting point" , then of course spin, feel, comfort, control. Many strings already reviewed from the list you mentioned

Anyway - if you want to lower the launch angle - use thicker strings. It has biggest impact (bigger than higher tension with 1.25 gauge) . Out of all the strings I tested so far Head Lynx Tour 1.30 offered lowest launch angle. I was really surprised...Confidential is really good - but only for 6 hours and then it becomes too powerful (springy). Hyper G - its not a feel, control oriented string. Its mostly spin oriented. Yes - you have control as its pretty low powered (and has nice spin potential) but when it comes to launch control then its one of the worst IMO. Hyper G is for attackers with loopy, heavy balls.

In very big generalization I see Hyper G as "Nadal" style and Lynx Tour as "Rublev" style string. loopy vs flat. Both give you a lot of control but in very very different ways.

NRMM · Apr 9, 2021

So at the end of the day the racquet has been modified to have these strung specs.. 319 static, 317 sw, balance 32.4 .. and has been strung with Solinco Tour Bite Grey 17 on mains at 26lbs and VS Touch Black 1.3 at 25lbs

so hopefully this is a nice evolution in terms of control and manoeuvrability (over power) from my former Wilson blade 104 with VS on mains and 4G on crosses 53/51 .. and the open pattern of the Yonez won’t play up - any thoughts???

Sardines · Apr 9, 2021

taydbear7 said:
I have a VC98+ and I was think of putting gut in the mains with Poly Tour Air in the crosses. Any recommendation on tension?

Sorry I've only played with PTA on a test racquet and never again. So no idea. I tend to go with stiffness of the string. My gut tensions, depending on racquet is usually around 55-62lbs, and I chose to string the Pro Red Code Wax 18g as a cross at 4-5.5lbs lower due to it's stiffness. With Poly Tour Fire, it's now 3-4lbs, because it's less stiff.

NRMM said:
So at the end of the day the racquet has been modified to have these strung specs.. 319 static, 317 sw, balance 32.4 .. and has been strung with Solinco Tour Bite Grey 17 on mains at 26lbs and VS Touch Black 1.3 at 25lbs

so hopefully this is a nice evolution in terms of control and manoeuvrability (over power) from my former Wilson blade 104 with VS on mains and 4G on crosses 53/51 .. and the open pattern of the Yonez won’t play up - any thoughts???

26lbs is very low for gut, even in the crosses. I get what you are trying to do but seems a bit drastic?

NRMM · Apr 9, 2021

Sardines said:
26lbs is very low for gut, even in the crosses. I get what you are trying to do but seems a bit drastic?

Apologies, I meant to say.. strung specs.. 319 static, 317 sw, balance 32.4 .. and has been strung with Solinco Tour Bite Grey 17 on mains at 57 lbs and VS Touch Black 1.3 at 55 lbs

Sardines · Apr 9, 2021

Haha ok, I thought someone gave you the idea to be radically different! LOL

NRMM · Apr 9, 2021

Sardines said:
Haha ok, I thought someone gave you the idea to be radically different! LOL

Ha ! So what do you Guys think? I mean moving from:

- Wilson Blade 104 (2015), 27.5 length, 18x19, 311 weight, 326 sw, 3HL, 66 stifness. Strung with VS/4G at 53/51. Issues with manoeuvrability and control

to

- Yonex Galaxy Black modified to 27.25 length, 16x19, 319 weight, 317 sw, 6HL, 63 stifness. Strung with Solinco Tour Bite Grey 17 on mains at 57 lbs and VS Touch Black 1.3 at 55 lbs

Will I potentially get better manoeuvrability and control (sacrificing power - I can generate by myself as I'm a double handed backhand and forehand player)? Or it there something in the above that does ring some alarm bells?

Juggernauts · Jun 6, 2021

NRMM said:
Ha ! So what do you Guys think? I mean moving from:

- Wilson Blade 104 (2015), 27.5 length, 18x19, 311 weight, 326 sw, 3HL, 66 stifness. Strung with VS/4G at 53/51. Issues with manoeuvrability and control

to

- Yonex Galaxy Black modified to 27.25 length, 16x19, 319 weight, 317 sw, 6HL, 63 stifness. Strung with Solinco Tour Bite Grey 17 on mains at 57 lbs and VS Touch Black 1.3 at 55 lbs

Will I potentially get better manoeuvrability and control (sacrificing power - I can generate by myself as I'm a double handed backhand and forehand player)? Or it there something in the above that does ring some alarm bells?

Hi,

I am planning to do the opposite of you - moving from pure drive lite 2015 (16x19) to wilson kblade team (18x19) because of elbow issue. Can you share your experience with 18x19 and 16x19 racket? Thank you.

NRMM · Jun 6, 2021

Juggernauts said:
Hi,

I am planning to do the opposite of you - moving from pure drive lite 2015 (16x19) to wilson kblade team (18x19) because of elbow issue. Can you share your experience with 18x19 and 16x19 racket? Thank you.

Sure. So for many many years I played with several Blades all with those tight patterns, including in recent years all the 18x19. Now that I’ve been playing with the 16x19 I’m actually much preferring it as it’s easier, more forgiving, there’s more plowthrough. Feels less stiff and harsh with the exact same strings setup… but again I’ve fundamentally changed racquets.. head size from 104/102 down to 98… from Blades to Ezone 98+ .. even though the Ezone has the highest swingweight I ever played with, and maybe because of the lower stiffness.., I just find the beastie Ezone to be easier to play with when you compare it to SW104 or even SW102… more consistent, predictable and robust/solid on all shots. A better all round racquet. even with gut in the mains I don’t think the open pattern launches balls all over the court…

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