Medvedev's Meltdown
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Terenigma
G.O.A.T.
Only a couple of days in to the clay season and already we're getting players massively wound up by obvious and stupid mistakes. Just put hawk-eye or whatever version of the new tech is called on clay. Enough of this ridiculous umpire checking the mark, it ALWAYS causes drama and issues and debates. Medvedev was right both times here, maybe he went a lil overboard with what he said but he was still right.
[New edit] Today in his match he again had another rant about the blind umpires, threw his racquet against the backboard, yelled at umpire for bringing out the physio when he didn't ask for. Probably for the best he's going home now, he did NOT have a good tournament.
[New edit] Today in his match he again had another rant about the blind umpires, threw his racquet against the backboard, yelled at umpire for bringing out the physio when he didn't ask for. Probably for the best he's going home now, he did NOT have a good tournament.
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johnmccabe
Hall of Fame
Oh well, doesn't like his behavior for sure. we live in era of all sorts of AI and government surveillance, self driving taxi, yet we can't have correct line calls.
TheGoldenEra1990’s
Semi-Pro
What an idiot. He’s playing old man Monfils who’s been around since the PlayStation 2 playing and he’s whining about this
Hope someone bagels him and puts him out of his misery. I’m sick of watching him in finals He’s a scrub player. I don’t know how he makes all these finals. He isn’t even that good. He has zero weapons off the ground
Hope someone bagels him and puts him out of his misery. I’m sick of watching him in finals He’s a scrub player. I don’t know how he makes all these finals. He isn’t even that good. He has zero weapons off the ground
Tennfan123
Legend
Lol. Meddy always entertains with his tantrums.
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
Inb4 Kralingen
duaneeo
Legend
Yes, Hawkeye's technology is seriously flawed. But the players believe in it, so I guess it's a good thing if using it keeps them calm/collected with the calls.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
johnmccabe
Hall of Fame
It's not they necessarily believe it. Human errors can often be interpreted as some type of intentional bias. If it's just a machine glitch, the players would take it as being unlucky rather than being unfairly treated.
Moon Shooter
Hall of Fame
Wait Medvedev got both points and he was still cursing the judges out and yelling like a brat??? He should be kicked out of the tournament and penalized.
Moon Shooter
Hall of Fame
Just to be clear. Did he get both points and still act like that?
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Tennisfan339
Professional
Nothing outrageous to see here. This kind of meltdown happens in every tournaments.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
How many TIMES?
Fabresque
Legend
Banging your head on the wall. Imagine how I feel now trying to convince you Kane is rubbish.
Terenigma
G.O.A.T.
Yeah I forget the name of the other one but this is a huge event on the tour, every masters should be implementing that line calling software. There is no excuse for masters/slams not to have it.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
I’m still trying to figure out how Medvdev on serve 1-2 30-0 , the judge calls the ball out but it was in. Med played the shot and went in. But they awarded Monfils the point? Why not replay the point? Kinda low on Monfils part not to and taking it.
Like what ? Then no call on a ball that was 6 inches out.
Like last weeks shenanigans - kinda can’t blame the players for being a tad irritated.
Like what ? Then no call on a ball that was 6 inches out.
Like last weeks shenanigans - kinda can’t blame the players for being a tad irritated.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
If you’re talking the second set on serve 1-2 30-0. He did not get that point even though it was :
1. Called out in error then overruled
2. Med actually hit the controversial ball back and in play. Yet still lost the point?
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
The 30-0 ball that was called “out” ended up being in yet med hit a forehand winner off that ball and lost the point lol. How?
Moon Shooter
Hall of Fame
So he seemed fine with the very unfair first call. They should have at least replayed the point. But then he has a tantrum about a non call that was overruled in his favor. Honestly tennis has put up with brats like this for far too long and it is a reason I can rarely stand to watch it.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
He lost a game he technically won. It’s the second week in a row a chair umpire awards the point to the guy who lost the point. Unacceptable.
Can’t blame him. The line judge was in the wrong and so was the chair umpire and didn’t see him acknowledge that.
Yet another reason that we must get rid of umpires!!!!! Line umpires and match umpires. We don't need them. They just add more stress to the players.
You're wrong: he's very good--one of the best in the world--and he's a slam champion. No one who "isn't even that good" beats Djokovic in a slam final.
To me, a player shouldn't talk like that to the officials. I would have issued a code violation. I'm a fan of Medvedev, to a point, but I can't imagine Edberg, Sampras, Nadal, Federer, and a host of others behaving like this. I can't even imagine Alcaraz or Sinner doing it. Tennis should get tough on on-court tirades from players; it's not a good look for the sport.
Rafa24
Hall of Fame
I've seen this too where they show the actual view of the super slow motion and it's got calls wrong. I remember one rafa challenged and hawkeye said he still lost the point wen they showed the reply but it was obvious seeing the super slow motion that he was right. I like the line calls being like they are on clay. not perfect either but more interesting than having bots call the lines.
Better_Call_Raul
Hall of Fame
Med serving 30-0. Ball hits near the line and Med plays it and hits a winner.
Med should be up 40-0 if ball was called out. Med should be up 40-0 if ball was called IN.
Either way Med should be up 40-0.... How is the score 30-15???
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Medvedev is not Russian. He has been de-flagged, after all. And even when flagged he does not live in Russia.
Dominic & Andrey
Legend
The umpiring on clay is absolutely shameful though.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
There are thousands of ball marks on hard courts. How do you know which one was made by the shot in question?
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Med was not given the 30-0 point. It should have been 40-0, but Lahyani calls it 30-15.Yes.
I would be livid if I were in his shoes too
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Can't be any wronger than the many mistakes umpires make when they check for a mark that may or may not be the correct one!
soldat
Rookie
People get angry when they feel they’ve been treated unfairly or if there is injustice, I think in this case Medvedev was well within his rights to let off a little steam, because it was two incorrect calls in a row from the same linesman.
Maybe he was paid to call in favor of Monfils?
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
It's not clear from the video, but did the linesperson call it out, or was it Med himself?
If Med called it out, then he's stopping the point and if he's wrong (or if the umpire believes he is wrong) the point automatically goes to Monfils
If the linesperson called it out but it Lahyani overruled it, then the point should have been replayed
Better_Call_Raul
Hall of Fame
Somebody clearly yells "Out!" but not clear if it is Med or linesman.
Usually a player will stop playing on a ball he thinks is out. Here Med keeps playing and hits a winner.
In general. it is best if player keeps playing until he hears an out call.
In the case of challenge I think the rule is that player must immediately stop playing (don't agree with that rule)...
But it does not appear Med was challenging any call here...
Announcer appears to say, "Shame for Med. Ball was called out but he hit a winner". That implies Med himself called it out.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
I watched the match. Did not appear to be home who called it out as he was clearly frustrated with the lines person who missed a call the next point.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
I don’t agree with the language and tone med used either. But he technically won a game he lost at the end of it. And I get the frustration bc even Monfils was confused why he got the point at 30-15. (Shame on Monfils for taking it btw).
Chair umpire needed oversight. He was clearly wrong in the end. And didn’t correct it.
Lahyani being Lahyani. Always a problem in any sport when umpires/referees think they're a personality in the sport.
N01E
Hall of Fame
2 obvious umpiring mistakes IN A ROW at the MASTERS 1000 level, but Medvedev is somehow the bad guy here? You're either with him or against the sport. Might as well have toddlers make the calls so it's more "interesting".
Wasn't his fault. The whole situation was extremely confusing. Seemed like Medvedev himself didn't realize he made the winner. I remember Djokovic giving the point to Shapovalov in Shanghai because he didn't realize his ball was in. Players have to be focused on themselves and there's rarely a time you can blame them (Garin being the obvious example of being a complete POS).
Klatu Verata Necktie
Hall of Fame
There have been many conversations over the years as to how to grow the game of tennis, to make the game more entertaining to a wider audience. One of the elements that contributes to entertainment is drama that is tangential to the game itself. We saw this in full swing back in the 70s and 80s with hot-headed players like Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe, and Ilie Nastase. These guys would play wonderful tennis that would captivate the hard core sport enthusiasts, but would also let their flawed characters come to the surface and provide drama and excitement to the casual viewer.
Sure there were abuses back in the day that needed to be reigned in, but it seems to me that in some ways the cure was worse than the disease. Personality and expression were discouranged and penalized to the degree that most players learned to temper their rage and behave in more gentlemanly ways. However, it also led to a more bland product where one source of value (drama) was sacrificed for congeniality.
While I certainly wouldn't want all players on the tour to look to Nick Kyrgios or Jelena Ostapenko for behavioral guidance, I also wouldn't want them to emulate Pete Sampras or Jannik Sinner.
Balance is key.
Sure there were abuses back in the day that needed to be reigned in, but it seems to me that in some ways the cure was worse than the disease. Personality and expression were discouranged and penalized to the degree that most players learned to temper their rage and behave in more gentlemanly ways. However, it also led to a more bland product where one source of value (drama) was sacrificed for congeniality.
While I certainly wouldn't want all players on the tour to look to Nick Kyrgios or Jelena Ostapenko for behavioral guidance, I also wouldn't want them to emulate Pete Sampras or Jannik Sinner.
Balance is key.
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