2nd Serve Aces
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380pistol
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Goran wouldn't surprise me as he had no fear to hit big 2nd serves. I don't think Roddick would come in high, cuz he does not tend go after his 2nd deliveries.
I would expect to see Sampras and Becker up there as well, cuz they would go for their 2nd serves. McEnroe is surprising, but he hit 3 second serve aces in 1982 Wimbledon final alone.
I would expect to see Sampras and Becker up there as well, cuz they would go for their 2nd serves. McEnroe is surprising, but he hit 3 second serve aces in 1982 Wimbledon final alone.
Moose Malloy
G.O.A.T.
I would think Sampras has this title. I can't find my notes on the '00 AO SF, but it seemed like he served more than a few in that one. maybe krosero counted them in the '02 USO final.
I counted 2 for Sampras vs Agassi in the '99 Masters Cup final.
Also, I counted 2 for Mac in the '84 USO SF vs Connors(had 17 aces overall)
I counted 2 for Sampras vs Agassi in the '99 Masters Cup final.
Also, I counted 2 for Mac in the '84 USO SF vs Connors(had 17 aces overall)
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
interesting question !
(you mean in a match ? over a year ?)
i remember when goran saved a match point with a monstruous ace on 2nd serve in the 2nd of wimbledon 1993... his opponent (bailey) couldn't believe it !
(goran finally won 9-7 in the 5th)
Andres
G.O.A.T.
I remember Joachim Johansson serving a 135 mph 2nd serve ace match point down.
Its on youtube somewhere. Lemme find it for you.
Edit: Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zeza9uvscI
Its on youtube somewhere. Lemme find it for you.
Edit: Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zeza9uvscI
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
... BAM !I remember Joachim Johansson serving a 135 mph 2nd serve ace match point down.
Its on youtube somewhere. Lemme find it for you.
Edit: Here
i love that !!!
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
It's gotta be Goran. He would often go for big second serves and we know the potential he had when really unleashing his serve bombs.
I have seen him hit a second serve ace on matchpoint against at Wimbledon, when playing Chris Wilkinson, an Englishman who could win the match of his carreer. As it is he will rather be remembered for the loss of it.
I have seen him hit a second serve ace on matchpoint against at Wimbledon, when playing Chris Wilkinson, an Englishman who could win the match of his carreer. As it is he will rather be remembered for the loss of it.
380pistol
Banned
interesting question !
(you mean in a match ? over a year ?)
i remember when goran saved a match point with a monstruous ace on 2nd serve in the 2nd of wimbledon 1993... his opponent (bailey) couldn't believe it !
(goran finally won 9-7 in the 5th)
It's all relative... match, tournament, slam, years career. Whatever anyone knows. And I recall the Goran one down match point.
380pistol
Banned
Sampras hit 4 second serve aces in the 2000 Aus Open SF.....
-4-6,3-1 0-30
-4-6,6-3,5-6 30-30
-4-6,6-3,7-6(0),6-6 2-2
-4-6,6-3,7-6(0),6-6 4-4
and 3 I know of in the 2002 US Open F
-5-3 30-15
-5-3 adv. Agassi
-6-3,6-4,5-7,5-4 30-0
I also know (and when) he hit doubles in 6 of 7 Wimbledon finals, and at leat 2 in '94,'95, and '99. Also others for Sampras if you(or anyone) cares to know.
orangettecoleman
Professional
yeah probably goran, because he would just go for 2 first serves and risk a double fault. so he probably led in second serve aces but wasn't anywhere near the top in 2nd serve points won.
380pistol
Banned
I remember Joachim Johansson serving a 135 mph 2nd serve ace match point down.
Its on youtube somewhere. Lemme find it for you.
Edit: Here
That may be the hardest 2nd serve ace.
But I can count 15 second serve aces for Sampras in his 14 slam victories.....
1990 US Open F vs Agassi @ 0-1 (0-0)
1993 Wimbledon vs Courier @ 7-6,6-6 (2-1)
1994 Wimbledon vs Ivanisevic @ 3-3 (30-0)
1994 Wimbledon vs Ivanisevic @ 7-6,2-3 (40-15)
1995 Wimbledon vs Becker @ 6-7,6-2,3-2 (0-0)
1995 Wimbledon vs Becker @ 6-7,6-2,5-4 (Deuce)
1995 US Open vs Agassi @ 6-4,5-3 (adv. Sampras)
1997 Aus Open vs Moya @ 1-1 (30-15)
1997 Wimbledon vs Pioline @ 6-4,0-1 (0-0)
1999 Wimbledon vs Agassi @ 6-3, 3-2 (0-0)
1999 Wimbledon vs Agassi @ 6-3, 6-4,6-5 (40-30)
2000 Wimbledon vs Rafter @ 6-7,7-6,5-4 (0-0 or 15-0)
2002 US Open F vs Agassi @ 5-3 (30-15)
2002 US Open F vs Agassi @ 5-3 (adv. Agassi)
2002 US Open F vs Agassi @ 6-3,6-4,5-7,5-4 (30-0)
These are the ones I know of. But I haven't checked 1993 US Open F vs Pioline, 1994 Aus Open F vs T. Martin, 1996 US Open F vs Chang and 1998 Wimbledon F vs Ivanisevic, as well as his 4 losses
But the highest I'm aware of in match is 4 in the 2000 Aus Open SF vs Agassi....
@ 4-6,3-1 (0-30)
@ 4-6,6-3,5-6 (30-30)
@ 4-6,6-3,7-6(0),6-6 (2-2)
@ 4-6,6-3,7-6(0),6-6 (4-4)
Right now the most in slam final is 3 (McEnroe 1982 Wim F vs Connors and Sampras 2002 US Open F vs Agassi), unless some knows different.
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NO. It's Sampras not Ivanisevic. Ivanisevic had more aces but not on the 2nd serve. I applaud a few who are remembering that 2nd serve ace at Wimbledon but that was a freak serve that showcased Goran's head problems more than anything. He went for a flat first serve down match point because he was losing it! Not because he was super confident, or had nerves of steel! lol.
luckyboy1300
Hall of Fame
i think i've watched a sharapova-dementieva match in wimbledon wherein dementieva hit an 86 mph 1st serve that missed, and then fired a 108 mph 2nd serve ace; the only occassion i've seen that a 2nd serve is much faster than the first serve.
CEvertFan
Hall of Fame
I don't know what the statistics are but I would say that Sampras would be the leader. His 2nd serve was essentially a very good first serve (for anyone else) and he aimed for the corners and lines just like he did on his first serves but because his technique was so sound and he was very mentally focused it wasn't as risky as it could have been. Goran had a good second serve and did hit second serve aces at times but even though his technique was also sound his mental state wasn't always there and it would contribute at times to him double faulting instead of hitting either a second serve ace or even a great second serve.
IvanAndreevich
Legend
Recently, Federer served 4 aces in a row against Sampras to take a game at the exo he lost. 2 of those were second serves.
I think now Federer will start going for bigger second serves, because he certainly can. Before, he was getting the ball in play and then winning the rally. Now he's not 24 anymore, so he wants even more free points.
I think now Federer will start going for bigger second serves, because he certainly can. Before, he was getting the ball in play and then winning the rally. Now he's not 24 anymore, so he wants even more free points.
Arthur Ashe had 4 in the first 26 games of the 1968 USO final, per Moose Malloy's count (see http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=199747).
D-Generated
New User
I think Boris Becker hit 3 2nd Servie Aces in the third set of the '95 Wimbledon Semifinal against Agassi...
