Acelon flouro extreme string

WayCool

Rookie
you measured it?


Oh Shroud,

I measured both axes... they are within .5mm of each other.. fwiw.. I am using a drop weight machine generally while tension is being applied I will tweak each cross up and down before clamping. With the fluoro I will definitely have to adjust the drop weight to get proper tension afterward.

travlerjm,

Man sorry to hear about the elbow :( hope you manage a speedy recovery.
 

TinTin 1

Professional
Oh Shroud,

I measured both axes... they are within .5mm of each other.. fwiw.. I am using a drop weight machine generally while tension is being applied I will tweak each cross up and down before clamping. With the fluoro I will definitely have to adjust the drop weight to get proper tension afterward.

travlerjm,

Man sorry to hear about the elbow :( hope you manage a speedy recovery.
On a drop weight do one pull to just past level to stretch the string , then let bar up, readjust the stretched string and repull. This works well for me :)
 

WayCool

Rookie
Do you have calcium deposits in elbow? Get an ultrasound. If so then kidney stone machine will break them up and relieve pain.

Hmmm... wasn't aware of possible calcium deposits.. May just get an ultrasound on my GE ...

Oh and the process with the drop weight is almost to the letter what I do TinTin .. re-gripping the string is not so necessary if I get the right grip to start.. ;)
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I measured it strung. 27.25
I measured it strung. 27.25
weird.
Oh Shroud,

I measured both axes... they are within .5mm of each other.. fwiw.. I am using a drop weight machine generally while tension is being applied I will tweak each cross up and down before clamping. With the fluoro I will definitely have to adjust the drop weight to get proper tension afterward.

travlerjm,

Man sorry to hear about the elbow :( hope you manage a speedy recovery.
Thats surprising given what Trav said about it stretching so much. But thats good I suppose, and jives with Tin Tins measurements sort of. Guess my theory was wrong. Sad because it would explain Tin Tins rave and Racket Kings thumbs down.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
weird.

Thats surprising given what Trav said about it stretching so much. But thats good I suppose, and jives with Tin Tins measurements sort of. Guess my theory was wrong. Sad because it would explain Tin Tins rave and Racket Kings thumbs down.
Actually not surprising at all. I'm sure his fluoro had major tension loss, especially right after stringing. But since kevlar is about 10-fold stiffer than than ZX, the amount if hoop squashing for the tension to equalize is very, very small compared to other combinations. In other words, kevlar/fluoro requires more extreme tension differential for the differential to have a noticeable effect.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Actually not surprising at all. I'm sure his fluoro had major tension loss, especially right after stringing. But since kevlar is about 10-fold stiffer than than ZX, the amount if hoop squashing for the tension to equalize is very, very small compared to other combinations. In other words, kevlar/fluoro requires more extreme tension differential for the differential to have a noticeable effect.

I guess I didnt understand this post then:

Tension loss happens with any string - the reasons for the extreme differential are independent of tension loss.

There are a few misconceptions about stringing kevlar mains at 90 lbs in a hybrid.

1. It may seem counterintuitive, but a kevlar hybrid at 90/40 is much, much softer than the same hybrid strung at 60/60.

There are 2 reasons for this, and neither is obvious until you think about it.
The first reason applies only to kevlar:

Kevlar is almost 4x stiffer than the ZX (and most other types of string too).
When you string the kevlar in a hybrid at 90/40 lbs, the racquet hoop shape will distort by several mm. For each mm the hoop length squashes, the hoop will widen by a mm. This means that for every mm the mains are allowed to shorten by racquet distortion, the crosses must stretch longer by a mm.

Since kevlar is 4x stiffer than ZX, for every lb in tension increase of the ZX crosses due to hoop squashing, the kevlar's tension will decrease 4 lbs.

When I lean my weight (with about half my body weight or ~80 lbs force) against the hoop to squash it when unstrung, I can easily deflect it about 4mm (the amount that the frame gets squashed by my 50-lb differential with kevlar/zx). And taking the 50-lb differential and multiplying by the number of mains (16, say) to roughly estimate the initial squashing force, you get 800 lbs. This is 10x the amount of force it takes to squash the hoop by 4mm. So by a first order approximation, we can estimate that the remaining differential after the hoop has squashed to relieve the 800lb of pressure is about 1/10 of the initial differential, or about 5 lbs. I.e., in equilibrium after taking the racquet off the stringer, the mains are still ~5lbs tighter than the crosses.

Since kevlar is 4x stiffer than ZX, for every lb in tension increase due to hoop squashing, the kevlar's tension will decrease 4 lbs. From this now we can estimate the actual average tension. For the 50-lb differential with kevlar/ZX, the kevlar would need to drop 40 lbs and the ZX would increase 10 lbs. So the average tension for the mains and crosses is 50 lbs. And assuming the 5lb actual differential, the kevlar would be at about 52.5 lbs, and the crosses would be at 47.5 lbs.

In other words, my 90/40 hybrid is actually a 52.5/47.5, which doesn't sound that bad, does it?

This would not be true if I strung the frame with, say, a full bed of syn gut ro a full bed of poly. 4mm of squash is enough to almost fully relieve the 50-lb differential for kevlar, but the racquet would have to squash 3 times that (~12mm) to relieve the 50-lb differential with syn gut (or poly).

I don't know, but it's quite possible that a 12mm squash would crush a tennis racquet, while 4mm squash is well within it's elastic range. So kevlar is the only type of string that I can confidently use in a hybrid with 50-lb differential without worrying that I would crush my frame.

Also, if mains and crosses were the same type (or two types having similar stiffness), then the calculation of the average tension after racquet distortion is simpler. A 90/40 string tension would simply average out to the mean of 90 and 40, or 65 lbs. Obviously 65 lbs is a lot tighter than 50 lbs. So counterintuitively, stringing with kevlar mains likely gives you a softer overall stringbed than if you had strung the mains with a much softer string.

The second reason why 90/40 is more comfortable than you might expect is more obvious - the increased lateral freedom of the mains within the stringbed plane greatly reduces the shock of the ball impact on the stringbed, giving much more of cushioned feel than if the string movement were more restricted. I think other posters have noticed this effect.

My 90/40 kevlar ZX hybrid is actually more comfortable than 66/46 was, and 66/46 was much more comfortable on my arm than 56/56 was.

Now you might be thinking, if 90/40 is actually 52/47, why not string at 52/47 to begin with? The answer is that the frame squashes in this case too. 52/47 becomes 50/49 as soon as you remove it from the stringer. So my effective differential with 90/40 is still >5x greater than starting with 52/47, which certainly amplifies the ESP effect.

To simplify calculations, I have ignored the effects of tension loss, but even with tension losses, the premises are still the same.

For anyone wanting to try 90/40 - it sounds odd, but I recommend only doing it with kevlar mains ensure both arm health and frame health.
 
An update on this:

I received the string on Tuesday and strung the all of my kids and mine racquets with Babolat tonic ball feel NG 16 on the main at 58% on the main and Acelon Flouro Extreme on the cross at 56%. The racquets are Babolat Pure Drive 2015 and Head Radicals MPA (16x16 string pattern). I feel much more comfortable stringing the racquet with Acelon Flouro Extreme than Luxilon ALU Power rough, especially on the fingers.

The result is a mix after 3 days of try outs.

I find the string to be better than Luxilon ALU Power Rough. My 14 years old son absolutely loves the new string. My 13 years old daughter completely hates it. My 10 years son seems to be neutral and does not care either way.

Will report back more results after a few more days of hitting.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Update on this. After first 45 minutes, the fluoro got stickier and less comfortable than initially. The comfort level and spin level on my Speed Pro strung with kevlar/ZX is much better compared to my BLX strung with kevlar/ZX, despite similar stringbed stiffness. I'm considering cutting out the fluoro and replacing the crosses with ZX. ZX is still the undisputed king of crosses.
 

TinTin 1

Professional
I used Kevlar and double AR Furia today and it was a great combo as well. Feel and spin and good control. I don't think the strings were snapping back that much but spin was great due to quickness of the Donnay Superlite 114 and my swing speed.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Update on this. After first 45 minutes, the fluoro got stickier and less comfortable than initially. The comfort level and spin level on my Speed Pro strung with kevlar/ZX is much better compared to my BLX strung with kevlar/ZX, despite similar stringbed stiffness. I'm considering cutting out the fluoro and replacing the crosses with ZX. ZX is still the undisputed king of crosses.
This jives with Racket kings assessment that the Accelon locks up.

IIRC you thought that Accelon might be better than zx, so what do you think accounts for the results?
 

marsh

Semi-Pro
OK, I bit the bullet and ordered a set. I have it strung up in my Angell TC95. Normally I use Kevlar and Zyex at 60/40, but based on some of the recommendations, I strung this at 60/50 and did a thorough pre-stretch (both manual and machine). I'll play with it tonight and report my experience.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
This jives with Racket kings assessment that the Accelon locks up.

IIRC you thought that Accelon might be better than zx, so what do you think accounts for the results?
To be clear, the kevlar/fluoro ESP style is not terrible. It actually compares favorable to kev/nat gut due to similar stiffness to natural gut and a little bit of snapback. It just doesn't have that magical permanent full snapback effect that you can get with kevlar/ZX ESP style. As you know, ZX is more dent-resistant than anything else I've tried, so it stays permanently slick.
 

marsh

Semi-Pro
One word Wow. Not sure if this was honeymoon type of situation or not, but this combo was fantastic. It had a little more power than the Kev/Zyex combo, but any extra power was easily controllable. Serves and volleys were amazing. Only detriment to this setup might have been a little lost feel, but it was still super comfortable. I also didn't notice any significant string movement. I'll play with it again tonight and update my impressions tomorrow.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Interesting...
The fluoro monofilament is starting to peel off in stringy pieces where it is being abraded by the kevlar, almost as if it's being grated like parmesan. It seems less sticky (and more prone to snap back) in the places where it has already peeled a stringy shard away. The experiment continues.
 

marsh

Semi-Pro
Sorry, guys and gals, the guy I played last night (and beat) was an epic pusher, so my match was far less than a normal outing of tennis. Still not noticing any significant string movement.
 

WayCool

Rookie
Update.. I'm still playing the SAME two axes with Cyclone Tour/Fluoro ... I can tell the poly is about dead but racquet still plays ok.

Acelon is sending me a test sample of the 1.10. I 'll give that a whirl as well.. though I may try it with a slick poly like V-Star or V-Pro...
 

racket king

Banned
This is interesting. I used my remaining 2nd set of this string to string up an Alu Power / Fluoro hybrid at 56/58. For the first hour or so, it played beautifully. The Fluro is very powerful, soft and plush, and the Alu keeps everything under control. Every single type of shot was superb. Completely different to a full bed of Fluoro (which was mostly garbage). In fact, the plushness from the Fluoro as a cross is quite something. Better feeling and plusher than ZX as a cross (which isn't that great for feel or touch shots). Fresh Alu is also unbeatable and makes practically any string play well. Spin was good, power was good, control was good. Everything was a heavy, fast, precise ball.

The problem was how the string setup played after the first hour or so. The Fluoro felt like it was becoming more powerful. From taking easy free points off my serve in the first hour, more of my flat serves were going a couple of inches or so long in the 2nd hour. The Fluoro had been given a light prestretch around a pole beforehand but still felt like it was stretching and making the stringbed become more powerful. Towards the end of the two hours, I was hitting most kick serves as I didn't feel like I could really go for it on my serve with this setup. The Alu Power was also starting to feel like steel cable and less forgiving compared when it was fresh when it played beautifully crisp yet comfortable.

Will see what it's like when I'm next on the courts but my observations so far are:

* Full bed Fluoro is a complete waste of time for the reasons I've previously given. Acelon really need to drop the sales blurb on the packaging which says it plays well as a full bed - it doesn't.
* Fluoro, when used as a cross, is very soft, very powerful and very plush. When used as a cross (with Alu), it's slicker than a nylon cross string. Will need to see whether that slickness continues.
* Fluoro does seem to be very high in plasticity though ie it stretches but doesn't necessarily stretch back. A significant pre-stretch may help reduce tension loss, but tension loss could be an issue.
* Alu Power is such a great string when string when fresh, but as everybody probably knows, starts turning to crap after a couple of hours.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
This is interesting. I used my remaining 2nd set of this string to string up an Alu Power / Fluoro hybrid at 56/58. For the first hour or so, it played beautifully. The Fluro is very powerful, soft and plush, and the Alu keeps everything under control. Every single type of shot was superb. Completely different to a full bed of Fluoro (which was mostly garbage). In fact, the plushness from the Fluoro as a cross is quite something. Better feeling and plusher than ZX as a cross (which isn't that great for feel or touch shots). Fresh Alu is also unbeatable and makes practically any string play well. Spin was good, power was good, control was good. Everything was a heavy, fast, precise ball.

The problem was how the string setup played after the first hour or so. The Fluoro felt like it was becoming more powerful. From taking easy free points off my serve in the first hour, more of my flat serves were going a couple of inches or so long in the 2nd hour. The Fluoro had been given a light prestretch around a pole beforehand but still felt like it was stretching and making the stringbed become more powerful. Towards the end of the two hours, I was hitting most kick serves as I didn't feel like I could really go for it on my serve with this setup. The Alu Power was also starting to feel like steel cable and less forgiving compared when it was fresh when it played beautifully crisp yet comfortable.

Will see what it's like when I'm next on the courts but my observations so far are:

* Full bed Fluoro is a complete waste of time for the reasons I've previously given. Acelon really need to drop the sales blurb on the packaging which says it plays well as a full bed - it doesn't.
* Fluoro, when used as a cross, is very soft, very powerful and very plush. When used as a cross (with Alu), it's slicker than a nylon cross string. Will need to see whether that slickness continues.
* Fluoro does seem to be very high in plasticity though ie it stretches but doesn't necessarily stretch back. A significant pre-stretch may help reduce tension loss, but tension loss could be an issue.
* Alu Power is such a great string when string when fresh, but as everybody probably knows, starts turning to crap after a couple of hours.
Pretty Pointless to prestretch around a pole if you trying to elongate the string
 

racket king

Banned
Pretty Pointless to prestretch around a pole if you trying to elongate the string

Why? The string permanently lengthened by about 1.5ft. It lengthens even more during stringing. Seemed silly to obliterate the string before knowing exactly how it's going to react.
 
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Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Why? The string permanently lengthened by about 1.5ft. It lengthens even more during stringing. Seemed silly to obliterate the string before knowing exactly how it's going to react.
Exactly! Looping it around a pole cuts the tension in half, if you are pulling on both halves of the string. You could get more from the string.
 

racket king

Banned
Nah. For a first pre-stretch and not knowing how it's going to react, I'd rather keep it low. In an ideal world, I would have tested it without any pre-stetch, and then go up incrementally with each subsequent test but this string is too expensive for that.

For the remaining half set, I used a pole again but pulling on a single length this time rather two lengths to try and get some more stretch. String did stretch but eventually snapped. Fortunately there was enough left over for the crosses. The snapping looked like it occurred around the knot where the string went around the pole. Should've have used a starting clamp to join the strings together rather than a knot as it probably would have put less pressure on the string.
 
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travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Nah. For a first pre-stretch and not knowing how it's going to react, I'd rather keep it low. In an ideal world, I would have tested it without any pre-stetch, and then go up incrementally with each subsequent test but this string is too expensive for that.
I think it's too expensive NOT to thoroughly prestretch as much as possible.
 

racket king

Banned
A big pre-stretch is probably the way to go, but I like seeing what strings are like in their original unmolested form first. Otherwise, if it plays well or badly or shows characteristics XYZ, you don't know whether its due to the string or the huge pre-stretch.
 

WayCool

Rookie
All,

Does anyone use poly mains with lower tension than crosses (gut, acelon, multi, ZX) ? I've never really tried that differential... Would seem that mains may not snap back as well compared to higher tension mains vs crosses. Reason I ask is that part of this equation for me is maintaining good control from the string bed... And that generally means Poly mains.. the issue then becomes protecting my elbow which means not getting crazy with tension on the poly and somehow controlling the power from the Acelon/Gut/multi.... I had this same issue with natural gut ... I prefer the poly in the mains for control... but to keep a decent differential to have good spin potential I would have to string the gut cross lower.. and that created way too much power in the racquet to my liking.

Perhaps I have not experimented enough to find the right balance.. I'd like to try something like Volkl V-Pro (stiff IMO) in the mains at like 52# or 50# (maybe even lower) and Acelon at #56 or 58# just to see how it plays.. my fear is that the string bed may become too locked .. ???

Thoughts ?
 

WayCool

Rookie
Played both racquets last night again ... doubles... Man... it STILL hit nice.. clearly the poly is mostly dead.. and the fluoro is starting to shred a bit.. but spin potential was excellent and the racquets did not feel stiff .. my arm feels pretty good today with just the usual light soreness...

The only drawback for me is with poly in the mains.. it will need to be restrung pretty frequently.. and cost wise the acelon is not cheap.. better than gut certainly.. As soon as the 1.10 arrives I'll restring and this time try a slick poly. Or possibly Kevlar ? Though just the thought of Kevlar makes my arm nervous :(

I'll likely keep some of the Acelon on hand.. I think it's a great option at this point.. will need to compare with ZX
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Played both racquets last night again ... doubles... Man... it STILL hit nice.. clearly the poly is mostly dead.. and the fluoro is starting to shred a bit.. but spin potential was excellent and the racquets did not feel stiff .. my arm feels pretty good today with just the usual light soreness...

The only drawback for me is with poly in the mains.. it will need to be restrung pretty frequently.. and cost wise the acelon is not cheap.. better than gut certainly.. As soon as the 1.10 arrives I'll restring and this time try a slick poly. Or possibly Kevlar ? Though just the thought of Kevlar makes my arm nervous :(

I'll likely keep some of the Acelon on hand.. I think it's a great option at this point.. will need to compare with ZX

Kevlar with crosses that doent notch is more arm friendly than with crosses that notch...everyone who says kevlar is bad on the arm probably tried it with syngut which notches pretty quickly.

Sure its a stiff string but if you can use poly then kevlar is not a big deal. You may want to adjust tension a bit downward but its worth a try IMHO.

Hey, look at my sig.
 

racket king

Banned
This hybrid Alu / Fluoro has turned pretty spongey, particularly on flat shots. There just isn't the same connectedness with the ball. That's at 3 hours in. Shame really because this hybrid played beautifully in the first hour or so but tension loss on the Fluoro seems to be an issue (as well as the performance of the Alu dropping off). Acelon would do well to bring out a 1.25mm or similar gauge and at the same time see if they can reformulate it to improve tension maintenance.
 
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WayCool

Rookie
Thanks Shroud...

I' waiting on some more Acelon to restring.. in the mean time I have some Crossfire/ZX that just came in.. and strung one axe with it.. at low tension... I also strung one with V-star/ZX in my normal 54/50 tension. Odd the zyex feels stiff in your hand.. but has a lot of stretch on the machine.. (yes I pre-stretched) .. I hit the Vstar/ZX and wow me likes ! I was scared to hit the Kevlar... being truthful here... gotta play at sectionals next week.. and don't need an elbow flare up. I will hit it tonight if it feels remotely too stiff .. I'll put it away....

The crossfire reminds me of braided fishing line (spectra or kevlar) and is a royal PITA to string IMO it has no rigidity and is tricky to get through shared hole for knots.. I would hate to try to string it in a shared hole racket...

FWIW I felt like the ZX was only slightly stiffer than the Acelon which is incredibly comfortable on my arm.. I'll see how tension maintenance stacks up tonight... I do agree with racket king tension maintenance is a concern.. Will see if that test 1.10 ever arrives.....

Thanks for everyone's feedback
 

TinTin 1

Professional
Thanks Shroud...

I' waiting on some more Acelon to restring.. in the mean time I have some Crossfire/ZX that just came in.. and strung one axe with it.. at low tension... I also strung one with V-star/ZX in my normal 54/50 tension. Odd the zyex feels stiff in your hand.. but has a lot of stretch on the machine.. (yes I pre-stretched) .. I hit the Vstar/ZX and wow me likes ! I was scared to hit the Kevlar... being truthful here... gotta play at sectionals next week.. and don't need an elbow flare up. I will hit it tonight if it feels remotely too stiff .. I'll put it away....

The crossfire reminds me of braided fishing line (spectra or kevlar) and is a royal PITA to string IMO it has no rigidity and is tricky to get through shared hole for knots.. I would hate to try to string it in a shared hole racket...

FWIW I felt like the ZX was only slightly stiffer than the Acelon which is incredibly comfortable on my arm.. I'll see how tension maintenance stacks up tonight... I do agree with racket king tension maintenance is a concern.. Will see if that test 1.10 ever arrives.....

Thanks for everyone's feedback
I love the 1.10 gauge.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Thanks Shroud...

I' waiting on some more Acelon to restring.. in the mean time I have some Crossfire/ZX that just came in.. and strung one axe with it.. at low tension... I also strung one with V-star/ZX in my normal 54/50 tension. Odd the zyex feels stiff in your hand.. but has a lot of stretch on the machine.. (yes I pre-stretched) .. I hit the Vstar/ZX and wow me likes ! I was scared to hit the Kevlar... being truthful here... gotta play at sectionals next week.. and don't need an elbow flare up. I will hit it tonight if it feels remotely too stiff .. I'll put it away....

The crossfire reminds me of braided fishing line (spectra or kevlar) and is a royal PITA to string IMO it has no rigidity and is tricky to get through shared hole for knots.. I would hate to try to string it in a shared hole racket...

FWIW I felt like the ZX was only slightly stiffer than the Acelon which is incredibly comfortable on my arm.. I'll see how tension maintenance stacks up tonight... I do agree with racket king tension maintenance is a concern.. Will see if that test 1.10 ever arrives.....

Thanks for everyone's feedback
let us know how it goes. What is vstar by the way, and get one of these:

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Pathfinder_Guiding_Awl/descpageGAMMA-PATHAWL.html
 

racket king

Banned
I don't work for the company and I don't get a dime from them. I just like the product and they seemed nice enough so why not try to get the word out.

It's as plain as day that you're promoting and marketing the string or trying to ingratiate yourself with the company to get more free products because your posts about it bear absolutely no resemblance to how it actually plays in the real world.

Given how poor the tension maintenance is on the 1.20mm gauge and how powerful the string becomes, only a complete idiot or a shill would be wanting a 1.10mm gauge.
 
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TinTin 1

Professional
It's as plain as day that you're promoting and marketing the string or trying to ingratiate yourself with the company to get more free products because your posts about it bear absolutely no resemblance to how it actually plays in the real world.

Given how poor the tension maintenance is on the 1.20mm gauge and how powerful the string becomes, only a complete idiot or a shill would be wanting a 1.10mm gauge.
Whatever, I love the string and plenty of other people like it as well. I don't need to ingratiate myself with any company.
 

WayCool

Rookie
Thanks Shroud... Yes a pathfinder would be required equipment if doing much Kevlar stringing :) I may get one anyway.. :D

I hit the Kevlar last night for all of 10 minutes and put it back in the bag... the stringbed didn't feel overly stiff in fact.. it felt OK .. BUT... two mishits and my arm said.. "Warning Will Robinson" ... so I put it away...

On a lighter note.. the 1.10 Acelon just arrived ! And he sent me a couple sets ! GOOD on Acelon ! Will cut out the Kevlar tonight and spool up an axe with it...

Tin Tin,

Wondering if you tried higher tension in crosses than mains?? I.E. Poly mains 50/ Fluoro crosses 58 ? Every time I've tried this the string bed locked.... :(
 

TinTin 1

Professional
Thanks Shroud... Yes a pathfinder would be required equipment if doing much Kevlar stringing :) I may get one anyway.. :D

I hit the Kevlar last night for all of 10 minutes and put it back in the bag... the stringbed didn't feel overly stiff in fact.. it felt OK .. BUT... two mishits and my arm said.. "Warning Will Robinson" ... so I put it away...

On a lighter note.. the 1.10 Acelon just arrived ! And he sent me a couple sets ! GOOD on Acelon ! Will cut out the Kevlar tonight and spool up an axe with it...

Tin Tin,

Wondering if you tried higher tension in crosses than mains?? I.E. Poly mains 50/ Fluoro crosses 58 ? Every time I've tried this the string bed locked.... :(
I have strung crosses tighter than mains , but it was 42m / 45 c . My tension is so low I don't have that issue. I string my wife's at 48/52 and she loves it and gets great spin. She is a 5.5 player. Due to my arm issues I just haven't strung one in the upper 50's.
 

SoCal1

New User
I've been trying this string for the last couple of week. It plays like a multifilament but with really bad tension loss.
 

WayCool

Rookie
Thanks TinTin..

May just stick with the low tension... What racquet are you playing? not to be overly nosey.. just curious.. Low RA rating ? Nevermind... :) I see "Donnay Superlite 114"

Now I'm wondering if there's a place to demo that racquet ????? Interesting idea .. hmm... I see they don't have an RA rating for the racquet..

SoCal,

A solid prestretch seems to help some... It doesn't feel like multi to me.. although I'm using in crosses only.. Multi has that.. mushy AND uncontrollable feeling after a couple hours of hitting.. and it actually hurts my arm once it starts to notch.. :( This string is different and odd... its very lively and doesn't seem to ruin the spin potential and at least for me I don't struggle with either control or spin even though it has lost significant tension.

I am liking the ZX as a cross as well.. it too is a bit different.. more like poly than multi/gut but without the harshness..

I'll get an axe in the stringer later today.. :) need to make a decision an which to play next weekend.. ;)
 
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WayCool

Rookie
Nix my last TinTin.. I just signed up for a free play test of the Superlite. Pretty cool deal they have going... Interested to see how it feels on my elbow ... as you can see I'm forever searching to lessen my arm injury ;) Nice they will ship unstrung. I just Don't want to have to quit playing again... ;)
 
Just an update on this:

I just tested Babolat NG Longevity at 58lbs on the main and Ashaway Monogut ZX on the cross at 56lbs over the weekend on both the Babolat Pure drive 2015 and Head Radical (16x16).

I really like this combination and my children like it as well. I am going to use the combination of Babolat NG Longevity on the main and Monogut ZX on the cross for my son and Babolat NG Ball feel on the main and Monogut ZX on the cross for my daughter.

Whoever recommended the Ashaway Monogut ZX to me, a big thank you. Perhaps I should send you a set of either Babolat NG Longevity or Ball Feel because I have 25 sets each :)

I still have 3/4 of the Acelon Flouro Extreme reel. I am going to give it to someone in the local area
 
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Just an update on this:

I just tested Babolat NG Longevity at 58lbs on the main and Ashaway Monogut ZX on the cross at 56lbs over the weekend on both the Babolat Pure drive 2015 and Head Radical (16x16).

I really like this combination and my children like it as well. I am going to use the combination of Babolat NG Longevity on the main and Monogut ZX on the cross for my son and Babolat NG Ball feel on the main and Monogut ZX on the cross for my daughter.

Whoever recommended the Ashaway Monogut ZX to me, a big thank you. Perhaps I should send you a set of either Babolat NG Longevity or Ball Feel because I have 25 sets each :)

I still have 3/4 of the Acelon Flouro Extreme reel. I am going to give it to someone in the local area

How would you and your children compare Gut/ZX and Gut/ALU in terms of power, spin, comfort, control, tension maintenance, etc?
 
How would you and your children compare Gut/ZX and Gut/ALU in terms of power, spin, comfort, control, tension maintenance, etc?

i don't think my children is old enough to be able to tell the differences but they did say they like gut/zx combination better than gut/ALU.

For myself, I like the gut/ZX combination better than anything else because the ZX is much easier to string than ALU on my finger. After 5 hours of playing time, it seems like the ZX holds better tension than ALU, IMHO. Then again, I am a recreational player, I think my opinion should not be taken seriously.
 

WayCool

Rookie
Update:

Ok.. I'm pretty sure I PREFER V-Star 54#/ZX 47# Monogut ZX plays much more like Poly so it makes sense that I would prefer it. BUT V-Star 54#/ Acelon 50# is FREAKING amazing on my arm.. I can hardly tell I played the next day.. not so much with the ZX. In fact I would say even better on my arm than Gut/Poly. RK is right though the tension loss is significant.. though I personally don't seem to suddenly hate the string bed... YMMV

I think I will keep using both.. OH and 1.10 is REALLY NICE ! Much preferred it ! Though I may tweak on the tension a bit too...

The folks from Acelon were extremely gracious to send me a set and a half of the 1.10 to test.. plus after pre-stretching I think I might get another half set out of it LOL ..
 

SoCal1

New User
This just isn't a performance string. After a few hours, the Acelon roughens up and the poly main strings start sticking and don't slide well any longer. The Acelon cross strings are actually abrasive to touch were the mains have been running. Spin was good at the start after a few hours, it plays no better than a synthetic gut.

They need to be pricing this at around $8, certainly not $22.95. It just doesn't have the performance or playing longevity that you would expect.
 

SoCal1

New User
Also stretching the strings beforehand just makes the mains stick even more. Overall, it's no better than a soft synthetic gut and by the end of a few hours of hitting, it's even worse as the strings because sticky, shredded and roughened. I agree with racketking's comments about how it performs. I just wish I had read those comments before buying the string... :-/
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Update:

Ok.. I'm pretty sure I PREFER V-Star 54#/ZX 47# Monogut ZX plays much more like Poly so it makes sense that I would prefer it. BUT V-Star 54#/ Acelon 50# is FREAKING amazing on my arm.. I can hardly tell I played the next day.. not so much with the ZX. In fact I would say even better on my arm than Gut/Poly. RK is right though the tension loss is significant.. though I personally don't seem to suddenly hate the string bed... YMMV

I think I will keep using both.. OH and 1.10 is REALLY NICE ! Much preferred it ! Though I may tweak on the tension a bit too...

The folks from Acelon were extremely gracious to send me a set and a half of the 1.10 to test.. plus after pre-stretching I think I might get another half set out of it LOL ..
60/40 would be more comfy on the kev/zx I think.
 

racket king

Banned
This just isn't a performance string. After a few hours, the Acelon roughens up and the poly main strings start sticking and don't slide well any longer. The Acelon cross strings are actually abrasive to touch were the mains have been running. Spin was good at the start after a few hours, it plays no better than a synthetic gut.

They need to be pricing this at around $8, certainly not $22.95. It just doesn't have the performance or playing longevity that you would expect.

Those are exactly my experiences as well. One of the big problems with this string (along with it's severe tension loss) is that it very quickly starts disintegrating where the poly mains rub against the string. The string becomes very rough and high in friction in those areas. I don't have the best camera but small fragments of it have been worn off leaving a rough to the touch, very uneven surface. It's like someone's taken a steel file to the string and shaved bits off except that this isn't a rough steel file, this is Alu Power - a smooth round poly....

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This probably explains why the characteristics of the stringbed change quickly compared to when it was freshly strung - the material just disintegrates and performance rapidly goes downhill. You no longer get the same power, precision and control compared to when it was freshly strung as the strings are no longer moving against each other well or consistently and the crosses have become very high in friction. It probably also explains why after 3 hours or so of play, you can push the mains apart and end up with a stringbed like the one in the picture below. A college player would completely destroy this string in less than a couple of hours.

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It's a real shame because the freshly strung Alu Power/ Fluoro hybrid I used was absolutely fantastic for up to about an hour or so, possibly even the best stringbed I've used. I would be 100% confident going into any match with that setup, but I would need multiple rackets and change to a new racket each hour because performance degrades so quickly. After 3 hours+ of play, I no longer have confidence in the performance of the stringbed. It's 'usable' but it's not a performance setup. Like you say, for 25 bucks a set, you'd expect a lot more. Acelon would do well to reformulate this string and figure out a way of remedying it's deficiencies as there's no way I'm restringing 20 bucks of hybrid string every 2 or 3 hours.
 
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Very well put. My son also complained that his racquet feels dead after 3 days of not touching it (Babolat NG in the main and Acelon Flouro in the cross).

Just gave away my Acelon Flouro reel. While I am not hurting for $$$, I think Ashaway Monogut ZX is a better fit for me, and a bit cheaper too, at $15/set.
 
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